Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 In a message dated 8/5/03 6:06:02 PM, Chinese Medicine writes: Zev:<< there is nothing new under the sun-King Solomon >> Lon: Well, in King Solomon's time maybe. Please let me elaborate some things I think are new and have import: 1. Human choice has replaced natural selection as the primary evolutionary pressure on the planet. 2. Natural laws do indeed change. For example the Chinese devised circular models because they didn't know about evolution. Now we now that life is a spiral and not a repititious circle. 3. The polar ice caps are melting. 4. Humans now have the capacity to destroy all life on the planet and to create a new genisis as well. Attributes that ancient cultures only attributed to gods. 5. I can write this, push a button, and my thoughts are transmitted around the world in a second. 6. The enlightend perspective is now available as an evolutionary step to *anyone*interested in single mindedly pursuing it. And, it is now the starting point of practice, not the end point. 7. Humans can play an active role in the evolution of consciousness itself. 8. The ego, or false sense of a separate self, traditionnally conferred selective advantage and now is the greatest threat to life on the planet. 9. Fundamentalists with a 2500 yo form of consciousness can now aquire the technology generated by 21st century consciousness. Atilla the Hun with nuclear weapons. 10. Healing the individual, for the sake of the individual, is now less relevant than healing the whole. 11. Human consciousness has now reached a critical mass where intersubjective consciousness is truley available for the first time in history on a large scale. I'm just getting started but its late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 In a message dated 8/6/2003 10:09:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Spiritpathpress writes: 8. The ego, or false sense of a separate self, traditionnally conferred selective advantage and now is the greatest threat to life on the planet This is the most interesting part of the post to me because it opens the question, what is "the false sense of separation of self"? From what I understand about life, if I understand anything, is the "self" that we sense we are separate from, is the big self. The original self. The creator of all we know. Any existence that is believed to be separate from "the one that is all", is based in ego. If that is true, then all human activity on the planet is ego based. Every bit of it! Because there is no one that is completely "Self" aware. Some may touch into it, a bit, but in the end it is that "sense of a separate self" that keeps us from joining with the Creator. The "sense of a separate of self" is the only thing that keeps each of us as what we perceive as an individual spark of life. To remove the "sense of a separate self" would remove the individual spark of life and be the end of "I". Life as I see it now, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 No, King Solomon was a prophet, and the wisdom of the Torah and Kabbalah predicted all the changes you mention in the future. If you want a mind-blowing text on the subject, find translations of the Zohar. The Zohar predicted the present age of technology and the flowing of secular knowledge into predominance in the world. I also think it is a bit simplistic to say that the Chinese did not see cycles of evolutionary change. 10. Healing the individual, for the sake of the individual, is now less relevant than healing the whole. 11. Human consciousness has now reached a critical mass where intersubjective consciousness is truley available for the first time in history on a large scale. In the Nan Jing, it says 'the superior physician first heals the illnesses of society. " And. . . as far and intersubjective consciousness goes, when the Jews received the Torah at Mt. Sinai thousands of years ago, it was a unified, one consciousness experience. Synasthestic as well. " There is nothing new under the sun " .. . . just new ways of expressing it. On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 07:07 PM, Spiritpathpress wrote: > > In a message dated 8/5/03 6:06:02 PM, > Chinese Medicine writes: > > Zev:<< there is nothing new under the sun-King Solomon >> > > Lon: Well, in King Solomon's time maybe. Please let me elaborate some > things > I think are new and have import: > > 1. Human choice has replaced natural selection as the primary > evolutionary > pressure on the planet. > > 2. Natural laws do indeed change. For example the Chinese devised > circular > models because they didn't know about evolution. Now we now that life > is a > spiral and not a repititious circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Z'ev, I'd have to agree with you ... and Kind Solomon. We have technological iterations ... not a new ontological domain. However my cousin Rossitza at the Int'l Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna might be able to insert genes for chloroplasts somewhere in our genome that would turn portions of our skin green. Walking in the sun would be equivalent to eating a bowl of fruit. Sorry, I couldn't resist ... it just popped into my head. ;-) Emmanuel Segmen - Chinese Medicine Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:19 PM Re: Traditional (TCM) There is Nothing New? Really? No, King Solomon was a prophet, and the wisdom of the Torah and Kabbalah predicted all the changes you mention in the future. If you want a mind-blowing text on the subject, find translations of the Zohar. The Zohar predicted the present age of technology and the flowing of secular knowledge into predominance in the world. I also think it is a bit simplistic to say that the Chinese did not see cycles of evolutionary change. 10. Healing the individual, for the sake of the individual, is now lessrelevant than healing the whole.11. Human consciousness has now reached a critical mass where intersubjectiveconsciousness is truley available for the first time in history on a largescale.In the Nan Jing, it says 'the superior physician first heals the illnesses of society."And. . . as far and intersubjective consciousness goes, when the Jews received the Torah at Mt. Sinai thousands of years ago, it was a unified, one consciousness experience. Synasthestic as well."There is nothing new under the sun".. . . just new ways of expressing it.On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 07:07 PM, Spiritpathpress wrote: In a message dated 8/5/03 6:06:02 PM,Chinese Medicine writes:Zev:<< there is nothing new under the sun-King Solomon >>Lon: Well, in King Solomon's time maybe. Please let me elaborate some thingsI think are new and have import:1. Human choice has replaced natural selection as the primary evolutionarypressure on the planet.2. Natural laws do indeed change. For example the Chinese devised circularmodels because they didn't know about evolution. Now we now that life is aspiral and not a repititious circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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