Vibration and TCM, the right note or color. part one

[Guest guest]

I'd like to go into a topic a little way back about vibrational

healing. The outline below is from a chapter of a (way too big and

old)book I put together a while ago, and tho it should be updated now

that the internet is running and there's been more research done, I

haven't put it in final shape because I hate to type and I've been

too lazy to train a speech to text program. Also I don't think I

could charge anything for it as it refers to the work of many

writers, and uses material from many sources. I should probably look

it over again to see if it would be any use, as it does have a lot of

stuff of utilitarian nature brought together.

 

We all have used the stimulators(tens, milli and micro) for Acup

therapy or physical therapy. We have favorite machines ( I made a

12volt-1amp solar panel with long wires to run one), and we have

favorite and reccomended frequencies. I also have a chinese one that

smoothly modulates the final output from zero to full at a setable

fequecy. It can be set to purr like a cat, for instance.

We know the importance of good needling technique. The classics say

hand manipulation should be about 100-120 twists per minute, or about

2 per second(2hz). So most stimulators start at .5 hz and can often

be adj up to 10khz(10,000 cycles per second), maybe switching between

two oscillators for better therapuetic result and non-adaptation.

Milliamp stims have a stronger output, more voltage and current

(amperage), enough to strongly contract the musculature. And used

on needles to imitate hand technique, reduce- disperse or tonify the

points, channels or areas, or used cutaneously for that similar

effects, also with conductive pads for surface or muscular therapy.

and so on. I think any danger of nerve damage would be due to

excessive misuse, like most herbs problems. These are clinically

excellent.

Microamp devices use apx a 13khz(13,000 cps or hz)or so carrier

frequency that is modulated by the lower operator-set frequency. This

programable or dialable frequency intereupts the carrier wave at the

amount of hz set, or augments the high frequency(HF)at that set

interval. The HF carrier penetrates the tissue better so that the

smaller output can get deeper, where the LF/HF small amperage output

combination can promote cellular healing.

Point detection devices are basically an audible, scalable ohm

meter, or resistance meter, that sends a voltage/current out and

swings a needle or flashes a light or beeps where resistance is

markedly less. Where the resistance to that current is least is

considered an open acupuncture point. Ear acupuncture diagnostics are

similar, and all microsystems lend themselves well to this

approach.

Confirmation of channel pathway and point reality has been confirmed

by the International Society of Electrical Engineers this way. Tests

done on a variety of different people and at different times over the

years show that resistance can be changed by a few with their will,

prescence of relaxation and mental tension and various substances,

and various therapies. People are individual electrically as well as

personally. In health there is variation, but the pathological change

shows in the same direction for everybody.

In the same way that bioelectric potentials, nerve conduction and

blood circulation -peripheral or deep- varies in illness, so does qi

flow. So does the thermal picture(for example, the location of organ

thermogenics in mixed hot cold syndromes). So does conductance.

Meridian testing, either electrically or by heat sensation or point

sensitivity, in fact all diagnostics, are attempts to quantify and

locate precisely, the health of various definite systems of the body,

infering the cause or holistic imbalance. Some machines apply

programed therapuetic stimulation after analyzing for the weakest or

strongest system(highest or lowest resistance, reactance etc.)

 

This is ordinary clinical application level. The understanding of

machines that test for harmonic resonant element and compound

detection require a litle bit more terminology because of in-vitro,

and in-vivo wave characteristics and analysis.

Even the spark from a automobile spark plug has therapuetic uses. To

clear channel or for an electro-alignment,it can be very invigorating

if used properly, and in villages around the globe and out of the way

areas, the cars' spark is applied to counter snake and insect venom.

 

My caution isn't so much to one-on-one misapplication or

experimentation, but more to the nefarious uses of this technology

and knowledge. But everything should come to light, especially

scince we are bombarded covertly and by consensus, to many

potentially disastrous electromagnetic phenomena daily.

Findings show that skin cancers are more related to exposure to 60

and 50 hz flourescent and incandescent indoor lighting, not sunlight

as supposed. Immune systems are devitalized and sometimes made hyper

by EMR. Cancers, asthma, auto-immune disorders, and mental illness

are only the tip of the iceberg of the health problems related to the

increasing electromagnetic and chemical pollution, and loss of global

vegetation. Now we see the correlation in in the damage caused by

toxins not only because of their poisonous uptake into systems and

hormone mimicry, but also because of their vibratory characteristics.

The net effect is a yang type environment that causes destabilization

and malfunction of biological processes. The prescence of over-yang

implying the therapuetic yin response.

 

Modern weapons manufacturers are selling sound or wave weapons to

billions of dollars. The Ground Wave Stations that are supposed to be

for communication purposes in the event of nuclear war, operate and

transmit at frequencies known and proven to be disruptive to

cognitive and metabolic functions, and seriously folks, mind control.

These transmitters are at 200 mile distances from each other across

the usa.

Why do women synchronize when living close together? What makes some

tones or music consonant or disonant to different people at different

times? What is your favorite color? These kind of things I think are

relevant to the study of vibration and TCM.

 

This old outline may jump around a little, because as I don't have

my book or notes with me, I'll have to put it out off the top of my

head. Sorry. And info more completely covered by the section on astro-

chrono-acupuncture systems and modern biorythmic charting, and feng

shui, are not covered here. Though it is hard and maybe wrong to

isolate and compartmentalize these things, and including them in

one's clinical reportoire is to an advantage, it seems better to

focus more narrowly sometimes, and put it together later.

 

Outline: Overview of history, 5 element correspondence, and 6 yin 6

yang

*Origins in TCM stream

-In the Nei Jing Su Wen, the world was given forever the divinely

inspired observations that human physiology is closely interrelated

and interdependant with nature. The concepts of Qi, yin and yang, the

12 organ meridians, and five elements were expounded. Also given were

the correspondences of the 5 elements (sound, color, taste,

direction, emotion, organs, etc). Soon here we will be concentrating

on the diagnostic and therapuetic uses of this knowledge in light,

sound and low frequency needle manipulation or electro-stimulation,

and the knowledge that is essential to carry out this research and

determine what the clinical frequencies and modalities are optimum.

A tall order, but lets noodle around with it and see what happens.

[Guest guest]

Microamp devices use apx a 13khz(13,000 cps or hz)or so carrier frequency that is modulated by the lower operator-set frequency.

>>>This is not the definition of a microamp device. Many do not have a carrier wave

Alon

[Guest guest]

I'd be very interested in the favorite frequencies you have found to be

effective. Can you post a listing of them? Thank you,

Prof. Neal White

-

" ykcul_ritsym " <ykcul_ritsym

<Chinese Medicine >

Monday, August 04, 2003 1:17 AM

Traditional (TCM) Vibration and TCM, the right

note or color. part one

 

 

> I'd like to go into a topic a little way back about vibrational

> healing. The outline below is from a chapter of a (way too big and

> old)book I put together a while ago, and tho it should be updated now

> that the internet is running and there's been more research done, I

> haven't put it in final shape because I hate to type and I've been

> too lazy to train a speech to text program. Also I don't think I

> could charge anything for it as it refers to the work of many

> writers, and uses material from many sources. I should probably look

> it over again to see if it would be any use, as it does have a lot of

> stuff of utilitarian nature brought together.

>

> We all have used the stimulators(tens, milli and micro) for Acup

> therapy or physical therapy. We have favorite machines ( I made a

> 12volt-1amp solar panel with long wires to run one), and we have

> favorite and reccomended frequencies. I also have a chinese one that

> smoothly modulates the final output from zero to full at a setable

> fequecy. It can be set to purr like a cat, for instance.

> We know the importance of good needling technique. The classics say

> hand manipulation should be about 100-120 twists per minute, or about

> 2 per second(2hz). So most stimulators start at .5 hz and can often

> be adj up to 10khz(10,000 cycles per second), maybe switching between

> two oscillators for better therapuetic result and non-adaptation.

> Milliamp stims have a stronger output, more voltage and current

> (amperage), enough to strongly contract the musculature. And used

> on needles to imitate hand technique, reduce- disperse or tonify the

> points, channels or areas, or used cutaneously for that similar

> effects, also with conductive pads for surface or muscular therapy.

> and so on. I think any danger of nerve damage would be due to

> excessive misuse, like most herbs problems. These are clinically

> excellent.

> Microamp devices use apx a 13khz(13,000 cps or hz)or so carrier

> frequency that is modulated by the lower operator-set frequency. This

> programable or dialable frequency intereupts the carrier wave at the

> amount of hz set, or augments the high frequency(HF)at that set

> interval. The HF carrier penetrates the tissue better so that the

> smaller output can get deeper, where the LF/HF small amperage output

> combination can promote cellular healing.

> Point detection devices are basically an audible, scalable ohm

> meter, or resistance meter, that sends a voltage/current out and

> swings a needle or flashes a light or beeps where resistance is

> markedly less. Where the resistance to that current is least is

> considered an open acupuncture point. Ear acupuncture diagnostics are

> similar, and all microsystems lend themselves well to this

> approach.

> Confirmation of channel pathway and point reality has been confirmed

> by the International Society of Electrical Engineers this way. Tests

> done on a variety of different people and at different times over the

> years show that resistance can be changed by a few with their will,

> prescence of relaxation and mental tension and various substances,

> and various therapies. People are individual electrically as well as

> personally. In health there is variation, but the pathological change

> shows in the same direction for everybody.

> In the same way that bioelectric potentials, nerve conduction and

> blood circulation -peripheral or deep- varies in illness, so does qi

> flow. So does the thermal picture(for example, the location of organ

> thermogenics in mixed hot cold syndromes). So does conductance.

> Meridian testing, either electrically or by heat sensation or point

> sensitivity, in fact all diagnostics, are attempts to quantify and

> locate precisely, the health of various definite systems of the body,

> infering the cause or holistic imbalance. Some machines apply

> programed therapuetic stimulation after analyzing for the weakest or

> strongest system(highest or lowest resistance, reactance etc.)

>

> This is ordinary clinical application level. The understanding of

> machines that test for harmonic resonant element and compound

> detection require a litle bit more terminology because of in-vitro,

> and in-vivo wave characteristics and analysis.

> Even the spark from a automobile spark plug has therapuetic uses. To

> clear channel or for an electro-alignment,it can be very invigorating

> if used properly, and in villages around the globe and out of the way

> areas, the cars' spark is applied to counter snake and insect venom.

>

> My caution isn't so much to one-on-one misapplication or

> experimentation, but more to the nefarious uses of this technology

> and knowledge. But everything should come to light, especially

> scince we are bombarded covertly and by consensus, to many

> potentially disastrous electromagnetic phenomena daily.

> Findings show that skin cancers are more related to exposure to 60

> and 50 hz flourescent and incandescent indoor lighting, not sunlight

> as supposed. Immune systems are devitalized and sometimes made hyper

> by EMR. Cancers, asthma, auto-immune disorders, and mental illness

> are only the tip of the iceberg of the health problems related to the

> increasing electromagnetic and chemical pollution, and loss of global

> vegetation. Now we see the correlation in in the damage caused by

> toxins not only because of their poisonous uptake into systems and

> hormone mimicry, but also because of their vibratory characteristics.

> The net effect is a yang type environment that causes destabilization

> and malfunction of biological processes. The prescence of over-yang

> implying the therapuetic yin response.

>

> Modern weapons manufacturers are selling sound or wave weapons to

> billions of dollars. The Ground Wave Stations that are supposed to be

> for communication purposes in the event of nuclear war, operate and

> transmit at frequencies known and proven to be disruptive to

> cognitive and metabolic functions, and seriously folks, mind control.

> These transmitters are at 200 mile distances from each other across

> the usa.

> Why do women synchronize when living close together? What makes some

> tones or music consonant or disonant to different people at different

> times? What is your favorite color? These kind of things I think are

> relevant to the study of vibration and TCM.

>

> This old outline may jump around a little, because as I don't have

> my book or notes with me, I'll have to put it out off the top of my

> head. Sorry. And info more completely covered by the section on astro-

> chrono-acupuncture systems and modern biorythmic charting, and feng

> shui, are not covered here. Though it is hard and maybe wrong to

> isolate and compartmentalize these things, and including them in

> one's clinical reportoire is to an advantage, it seems better to

> focus more narrowly sometimes, and put it together later.

>

> Outline: Overview of history, 5 element correspondence, and 6 yin 6

> yang

> *Origins in TCM stream

> -In the Nei Jing Su Wen, the world was given forever the divinely

> inspired observations that human physiology is closely interrelated

> and interdependant with nature. The concepts of Qi, yin and yang, the

> 12 organ meridians, and five elements were expounded. Also given were

> the correspondences of the 5 elements (sound, color, taste,

> direction, emotion, organs, etc). Soon here we will be concentrating

> on the diagnostic and therapuetic uses of this knowledge in light,

> sound and low frequency needle manipulation or electro-stimulation,

> and the knowledge that is essential to carry out this research and

> determine what the clinical frequencies and modalities are optimum.

> A tall order, but lets noodle around with it and see what happens.

>

>

>

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Thank you, I should have emphasized the low constant current, and gentle waveshape healing microamperage characteristics. In my sentence, it does sound like I am toting the carrier wave over the microcurrent itself. Its hard to predict how much info is too much, but below is a link that explains in more detail the background of the bioelectric thought. It is only a few paragraphs.

http://www.electromethod.com/info%20page%2028.htmAlon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote:

 

Microamp devices use apx a 13khz(13,000 cps or hz)or so carrier frequency that is modulated by the lower operator-set frequency.

>>>This is not the definition of a microamp device. Many do not have a carrier wave

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--- mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote:

> Thank you, I should have emphasized the low constant

> current, and gentle waveshape healing microamperage

> characteristics. In my sentence, it does sound like

> I am toting the carrier wave over the microcurrent

> itself. Its hard to predict how much info is too

> much, but below is a link that explains in more

> detail the background of the bioelectric thought.

> It is only a few paragraphs.

> http://www.electromethod.com/info%20page%2028.htm

>

> Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote:

> Microamp devices use apx a 13khz(13,000 cps or hz)or

> so carrier

> frequency that is modulated by the lower

> operator-set frequency.

> >>>This is not the definition of a microamp device.

> Many do not have a carrier wave

> Alon

>

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A couple years ago, when I regained full use of my legs from a wierd ailment, I went to see a martial arts instructor in (where ever), whose school has been instructing in complete 5 animal and praying mantis styles for many decades, actually the leading traditional school for it. I was a student there as a teenager, tho he didn't recognize me. I wanted to learn a two-sword technique for fun and enthusiastic exersize, so I asked him. He said "You don't come telling me what you want, you have to have respect, I've been teaching for a long time". I said I most certainly had respect for him, I knew about and went to this school many years ago, and I would submit to the training he thought appropriate, scince he was the master, tho I wanted him to know that I eventually really really wished to also be taught that specific sword. So he said I should start with the basics again, to empty hand forms etc, to weapons etc. And tho I want everything I want right now, I

can see the correctness of it. My point is that to jump over all the why, and background and logic,and present single or dual or complex waveform recomendations without valid experiences in case studies or precedent (or even the terminology), would seem simplistic, superstitious and only open myself to ridicule. But thats ok, because anything that helps is good, I am only a beginner, and time is short for communication. (Probably half the people who started reading this moved on by the third sentence, and are going to complain!)

I left off w Su Wen previsaging the discovery of the unity of the electromagnetic spectrum and its implications for health and dis-ease.But that bored people so...playtime...

* Hand technique- in addition to traditional techniques taught everywhere and found in many books, try this-( and this can be used in conjunction w any other tonify or reduce technique e.g. lift-thrust, heating-cooling, 3 or 2 level depth, scratching or flicking needle, in and against direction of channel flow, 4-6 or 8 needle technique, etc.) Visualize for example, bilateral insertion in the point Bl23-Shen Shu. Looking at the needles in the points, from side of patient, facing toward their head, put one hand on each needle, lefthand on left needle, right hand grasp right needle. 1) simultaneously twist left needle w emphasis CW, while RH needle twist w emphasis CCW. frequency=apx >2 per second or 2 hz. (twisting isn't like turning a screw, let needle come back most of way or can make it stuck) 2) LH CW while RH CCW, or visa-versa This can be done on any bilateral needling, anywhere on body, left-right,

above-below, front-back. Pay attention to channel direction, and intent, and patient response. #1 will make qi strongly penetrate to spine and low back area and down channel. #2 will make left descend while right ascend (or vica-versa)to clear area and smooth channel. This done for example on St36-Zu San Li or Sp6-San Yin Jiao, can create an strong flow, and an arc of both L and R channels thru groin and or abdomen. Experiment.

Also I use a flashlight size infrared lamp to warm abdomenm, a magnifying glass and moxa to carefully stim pts, and gua sha to open back to release heat out, or sometimes alternate between gua sha opening then cooling w lotion but tryingb to not too much open after. (cover up and warm)

 

 

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I'd be very interested in the favorite frequencies you have found to beeffective. Can you post a listing of them? Thank you,Prof. Neal White-"ykcul_ritsym" <ykcul_ritsym<Chinese Medicine >Monday, August 04, 2003 1:17 AMTraditional (TCM) Vibration and TCM, the rightnote or color. part one> I'd like to go into a topic a little way back about vibrational> healing. The outline below is from a chapter of a (way too big and> old)book I put together a while ago, and tho it should be updated now> that the internet is running and there's been more research done, I> haven't put it in final shape because I hate to type and I've been> too lazy to train a speech to text program. Also I don't

think I> could charge anything for it as it refers to the work of many> writers, and uses material from many sources. I should probably look> it over again to see if it would be any use, as it does have a lot of> stuff of utilitarian nature brought together.>> We all have used the stimulators(tens, milli and micro) for Acup> therapy or physical therapy. We have favorite machines ( I made a> 12volt-1amp solar panel with long wires to run one), and we have> favorite and reccomended frequencies. I also have a chinese one that> smoothly modulates the final output from zero to full at a setable> fequecy. It can be set to purr like a cat, for instance.> We know the importance of good needling technique. The classics say> hand manipulation should be about 100-120 twists per minute, or about> 2 per second(2hz). So most stimulators start at .5 hz and can often> be adj up

to 10khz(10,000 cycles per second), maybe switching between> two oscillators for better therapuetic result and non-adaptation.> Milliamp stims have a stronger output, more voltage and current> (amperage), enough to strongly contract the musculature. And used> on needles to imitate hand technique, reduce- disperse or tonify the> points, channels or areas, or used cutaneously for that similar> effects, also with conductive pads for surface or muscular therapy.> and so on. I think any danger of nerve damage would be due to> excessive misuse, like most herbs problems. These are clinically> excellent.> Microamp devices use apx a 13khz(13,000 cps or hz)or so carrier> frequency that is modulated by the lower operator-set frequency. This> programable or dialable frequency intereupts the carrier wave at the> amount of hz set, or augments the high frequency(HF)at that

set> interval. The HF carrier penetrates the tissue better so that the> smaller output can get deeper, where the LF/HF small amperage output> combination can promote cellular healing.> Point detection devices are basically an audible, scalable ohm> meter, or resistance meter, that sends a voltage/current out and> swings a needle or flashes a light or beeps where resistance is> markedly less. Where the resistance to that current is least is> considered an open acupuncture point. Ear acupuncture diagnostics are> similar, and all microsystems lend themselves well to this> approach.> Confirmation of channel pathway and point reality has been confirmed> by the International Society of Electrical Engineers this way. Tests> done on a variety of different people and at different times over the> years show that resistance can be changed by a few with their will,> prescence of

relaxation and mental tension and various substances,> and various therapies. People are individual electrically as well as> personally. In health there is variation, but the pathological change> shows in the same direction for everybody.> In the same way that bioelectric potentials, nerve conduction and> blood circulation -peripheral or deep- varies in illness, so does qi> flow. So does the thermal picture(for example, the location of organ> thermogenics in mixed hot cold syndromes). So does conductance.> Meridian testing, either electrically or by heat sensation or point> sensitivity, in fact all diagnostics, are attempts to quantify and> locate precisely, the health of various definite systems of the body,> infering the cause or holistic imbalance. Some machines apply> programed therapuetic stimulation after analyzing for the weakest or> strongest system(highest or

lowest resistance, reactance etc.)>> This is ordinary clinical application level. The understanding of> machines that test for harmonic resonant element and compound> detection require a litle bit more terminology because of in-vitro,> and in-vivo wave characteristics and analysis.> Even the spark from a automobile spark plug has therapuetic uses. To> clear channel or for an electro-alignment,it can be very invigorating> if used properly, and in villages around the globe and out of the way> areas, the cars' spark is applied to counter snake and insect venom.>> My caution isn't so much to one-on-one misapplication or> experimentation, but more to the nefarious uses of this technology> and knowledge. But everything should come to light, especially> scince we are bombarded covertly and by consensus, to many> potentially disastrous electromagnetic phenomena

daily.> Findings show that skin cancers are more related to exposure to 60> and 50 hz flourescent and incandescent indoor lighting, not sunlight> as supposed. Immune systems are devitalized and sometimes made hyper> by EMR. Cancers, asthma, auto-immune disorders, and mental illness> are only the tip of the iceberg of the health problems related to the> increasing electromagnetic and chemical pollution, and loss of global> vegetation. Now we see the correlation in in the damage caused by> toxins not only because of their poisonous uptake into systems and> hormone mimicry, but also because of their vibratory characteristics.> The net effect is a yang type environment that causes destabilization> and malfunction of biological processes. The prescence of over-yang> implying the therapuetic yin response.>> Modern weapons manufacturers are selling sound or wave weapons to>

billions of dollars. The Ground Wave Stations that are supposed to be> for communication purposes in the event of nuclear war, operate and> transmit at frequencies known and proven to be disruptive to> cognitive and metabolic functions, and seriously folks, mind control.> These transmitters are at 200 mile distances from each other across> the usa.> Why do women synchronize when living close together? What makes some> tones or music consonant or disonant to different people at different> times? What is your favorite color? These kind of things I think are> relevant to the study of vibration and TCM.>> This old outline may jump around a little, because as I don't have> my book or notes with me, I'll have to put it out off the top of my> head. Sorry. And info more completely covered by the section on astro-> chrono-acupuncture systems and modern biorythmic charting, and

feng> shui, are not covered here. Though it is hard and maybe wrong to> isolate and compartmentalize these things, and including them in> one's clinical reportoire is to an advantage, it seems better to> focus more narrowly sometimes, and put it together later.>> Outline: Overview of history, 5 element correspondence, and 6 yin 6> yang> *Origins in TCM stream> -In the Nei Jing Su Wen, the world was given forever the divinely> inspired observations that human physiology is closely interrelated> and interdependant with nature. The concepts of Qi, yin and yang, the> 12 organ meridians, and five elements were expounded. Also given were> the correspondences of the 5 elements (sound, color, taste,> direction, emotion, organs, etc). Soon here we will be concentrating> on the diagnostic and therapuetic uses of this knowledge in light,> sound and low frequency

needle manipulation or electro-stimulation,> and the knowledge that is essential to carry out this research and> determine what the clinical frequencies and modalities are optimum.> A tall order, but lets noodle around with it and see what happens.>>>> For practitioners, students and those interested in Traditional ChineseMedicine (TCM.). Topics discussed range from acupuncture, herbal medicine,tuina to nutrition.>> Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, religious or spammessages.>> Web site homepage:Chinese Medicine/>>