Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 In a message dated 8/3/03 12:21:49 AM, Chinese Medicine writes: << Optimal health has a lot more to it than just 'ego'. At the root are belief systems and negative thought patterns, which you may say are 'ego' orientated but are quite separate. People seem to pour scorn on the ego, but we need it to live, although we can then move on from that to a higher realm but we will always have our ego. The core value of the human race has of course, progressed since the time you mentioned. Our world is a constant 'purer' expression of our innerselves. >> Lon: Well, it depends on what you consider " ego " to be. From a psychoanalytic sense it can be defined as the core facility that organizes all our various cognative and psychological processess. In that sense yes, we will have an ego. In the spiritua sense however ego can be defined as " the false sense of a separate self. " The arising of a self reflective " self sense " conferred selective advantage on homo sapiens 100,000 years ago over all the other homos (erectus, neanderthals) that didn't make it. That self sense was linked to fear and desire (the heart/kidney axis) and thus samsara (literally the cycle of birth and death=ignorance) was born. Ego can also be defined as a filter that lets in only as much reality as you can handle at any given time? Ego *did* confer selective advantage but it no longer does so. With 7 billion egos on the planet all wanting what they want for themselves right now we have an issue of sustainability. In fact, It is ego that now threatens the existance of the species on the planet. Interestingly, it is ego that *has* to die *if* one is ever to embrace integral consciousness. Many people have an *intellectual* understanding of holistic and integral systems theory but very few have jumped to the next tier where they manifest integral consciousness. That is, to have consciousness integrated to a point where they are " One without a second. " In other words ego as filter is removed and the true and right relationship of all things is revealed (arjuana and krishna in the chariot in the Bahagavadgita for example). Ego is, in fact, the basis of *all* negative thought patterns and of all beleifs that are not congruent with reality. Reality itself is not *relative* but is *absolute*. The absolute nature of things is immeadiatly perceivedd when ego, my sense of how everything narcississistically realtes to me is removed from the picture. Yes many people *talk* about holistic and integral but its another thing entirely to realize the evolutionary implications and spiritual implications of what integral consciousness really implies which are no less then the recognition of ego as a vestigial part of mind and the whole hearted commitment to evolve now for the sake of the whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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