parad cont

July 25, 2003

1 more quote, " ... However, there are researchers who attempting to

develop a `pharmacology of harmony' that takes into account the total

effect of the substances and the state of the organism as a whole.

This latter approach is more in keeping with the philosophy of

traditional and more fully appreciates the complex

nature of these medicinal substances. "

There is an active wholistic integration occurring, why the fear?

-

July 28, 2003

Hi Jason,

Jason wrote: "only recently has rigorous methodology begun to be developed , For example, baihuasheshecao has been shown to be clinically effective in the prevention & treatment of a variety of infectious diseases. However, it has not demonstrated a significant inhibitory effect in vitro against any major pathogen. Only as techniques became available to test the immunological system did it become apparent that at least part of this herb's effect was due to its enhancement of the body's immune system."I think this shows that we are past the idea that WM research is just about isolating 1 active constituent, and testing this for a specific pathogen or disease. Also, even though this is not pattern based research, how can we deny that this is not only useful, but this is also part of CM? Yes it is not traditional, but modern CM. Is this wrong? -Jason, this is great stuff. This is CM guiding Western science. This is exactly what one hopes to see. It had been assumed that to be effective against infectious disease, that an agent such as baihuasheshecao would need to be antibiotic in an allopathic sense. Instead you show that it was discovered not to be allopathically antibiotic at all. In fact quite the opposite, it stimulated the immune system. To me this is the opposite of WM cutting off the head of CM and leaving the root to die. This is the root of CM giving heart and root to WM.

Forgive me for using the terms heart, root and head. I'm still grounded in the larger underlying philosophies. My previous quote from Red Pine's translation of Taoteching is partly where I'm coming from . In my view, the danger of biochemistry as applied to CM is that it will act like biochemistry. In your example, Jason, Western science learned a lesson from CM. It's possible that a 3,000 year old tradition might offer some guidance to a 40 year old technology. Your example perfectly presented that notion. It's my fondest hope (though not my expectation) that such will always be the case. Thank you for your example and presentation.

Emmanuel Segmen

July 28, 2003

Hi Jason,

Jason wrote: "only recently has rigorous methodology begun to be developed , For example, baihuasheshecao has been shown to be clinically effective in the prevention & treatment of a variety of infectious diseases. However, it has not demonstrated a significant inhibitory effect in vitro against any major pathogen. Only as techniques became available to test the immunological system did it become apparent that at least part of this herb's effect was due to its enhancement of the body's immune system."I think this shows that we are past the idea that WM research is just about isolating 1 active constituent, and testing this for a specific pathogen or disease. Also, even though this is not pattern based research, how can we deny that this is not only useful, but this is also part of CM? Yes it is not traditional, but modern CM. Is this wrong? -Jason, this is great stuff. This is CM guiding Western science. This is exactly what one hopes to see. It had been assumed that to be effective against infectious disease, that an agent such as baihuasheshecao would need to be antibiotic in an allopathic sense. Instead you show that it was discovered not to be allopathically antibiotic at all. In fact quite the opposite, it stimulated the immune system. To me this is the opposite of WM cutting off the head of CM and leaving the root to die. This is the root of CM giving heart and root to WM.

Forgive me for using the terms heart, root and head. I'm still grounded in the larger underlying philosophies. My previous quote from Red Pine's translation of Taoteching is partly where I'm coming from . In my view, the danger of biochemistry as applied to CM is that it will act like biochemistry. In your example, Jason, Western science learned a lesson from CM. It's possible that a 3,000 year old tradition might offer some guidance to a 40 year old technology. Your example perfectly presented that notion. It's my fondest hope (though not my expectation) that such will always be the case. Thank you for your example and presentation.

Emmanuel Segmen