Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 The whole HIPPA deal is confusing at best. Here's a link to an AMA web site that has a flow chart that apparently tells the tale as to who needs to worry about HIPPA. http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/8818.html According to this it all hinges on electronic transmission of patient data to insurance companies. It would seem that those Acupuncturists who do not participate in insurance don't need to worry about it. If this is indeed the case, it's just one more reason for Acupuncturists to stay out of the insurance game IMHO. Don't take the above paragraph as Gospel. Do your own due diligence. Be well, Jack Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Hi Jack, Thank you for the excellent site. As a former member in good standing of the AMA, I've learned to read these fabulous flow charts. The binary-ness of it all! By virtue of your excellent work, Jack, it's clear that you can still do 3rd party payments by mail without registering for HIPAA. In fact the only way you can ever need or be able to apply for HIPAA as a practitioner is if you choose to install that marvelous encrypted software onto your computer. I sense that there is not a single private practice LAc on this list who will use a dedicated encrypted software computer. On the other hand people like Ta-Ya Lee will definitely use such a computer at Johns Hopkins. Thanks for bringing the AMA to the rescue! Emmanuel Segmen Merritt College, Asia Natural The whole HIPPA deal is confusing at best. Here's a link to an AMA web site that has a flow chart that apparently tells the tale as to who needs to worry about HIPPA. http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/8818.html According to this it all hinges on electronic transmission of patient data to insurance companies. It would seem that those Acupuncturists who do not participate in insurance don't need to worry about it. If this is indeed the case, it's just one more reason for Acupuncturists to stay out of the insurance game IMHO. Don't take the above paragraph as Gospel. Do your own due diligence. Be well, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Hi Emmanuel, I'm running XP Pro which allows you to encrypt certain areas of your computer, so for example i have encrypted all my documents. Do you know if this encrytption software already supplied by Microsoft with XP Pro, conforms to HIPAA regulations? Atti Chinese Medicine , " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote: > Hi Jack, > > Thank you for the excellent site. As a former member in good standing of the AMA, I've learned to read these fabulous flow charts. The binary-ness of it all! > > By virtue of your excellent work, Jack, it's clear that you can still do 3rd party payments by mail without registering for HIPAA. In fact the only way you can ever need or be able to apply for HIPAA as a practitioner is if you choose to install that marvelous encrypted software onto your computer. I sense that there is not a single private practice LAc on this list who will use a dedicated encrypted software computer. On the other hand people like Ta-Ya Lee will definitely use such a computer at Johns Hopkins. > > Thanks for bringing the AMA to the rescue! > > Emmanuel Segmen > Merritt College, Asia Natural > > > The whole HIPPA deal is confusing at best. Here's a link to an AMA web site that has a flow chart that apparently tells the tale as to who needs to worry about HIPPA. > > http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/8818.html > > According to this it all hinges on electronic transmission of patient data to insurance companies. It would seem that those Acupuncturists who do not participate in insurance don't need to worry about it. If this is indeed the case, it's just one more reason for Acupuncturists to stay out of the insurance game IMHO. > > Don't take the above paragraph as Gospel. Do your own due diligence. > > Be well, > > Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Hi Attilio, I believe the encryption software agreed upon for use by federal, state, and local governments as well as hospitals and clinics is unique and must be loaded. But I'm not a CS guy ... I'm biochem, physio, anatomy, cell & molecular and genetics. You can ask me those questions. So to get the correct answer to your question, I'll copy to my friend who administers this software. Emmanuel Segmen Hi Emmanuel,I'm running XP Pro which allows you to encrypt certain areas of your computer, so for example i have encrypted all my documents. Do you know if this encrytption software already supplied by Microsoft with XP Pro, conforms to HIPAA regulations?Atti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Hey, I don't get this encryption deal. What gives? John Garbarini --- Emmanuel Segmen <susegmen wrote: > Hi Attilio, > > I believe the encryption software agreed upon for > use by federal, state, and local governments as well > as hospitals and clinics is unique and must be > loaded. But I'm not a CS guy ... I'm biochem, > physio, anatomy, cell & molecular and genetics. You > can ask me those questions. So to get the correct > answer to your question, I'll copy to my friend who > administers this software. > > Emmanuel Segmen > > > Hi Emmanuel, > > I'm running XP Pro which allows you to encrypt > certain areas of your > computer, so for example i have encrypted all my > documents. Do you > know if this encrytption software already supplied > by Microsoft with > XP Pro, conforms to HIPAA regulations? > > Atti > Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Hey, I don't get this encryption deal. What gives? John Garbarini Hi John, If you go to most of the government HIPAA websites, especially individual state sights administered by state governor's offices, you will see the gist of what HIPAA is. In a physical sense it is encrypted software configured to protect the privacy of individuals (patients/clients) whose personal health data, payment histories, addresses, phone numbers, etc. are plugged into the system. At least that was the original theory. For your convenience, I've attached a four page paper that I put together earlier this year when I researched what HIPAA is on behalf of my wife who is a graduate student in nursing. The paper and URLs listed along the way should spell it out for you. It's cheaper than going to a weekend seminar and a lot less time consuming. You'll be up to speed in less than an hour. The good news is that it was borne out of laudable intentions. The bad news is there were so many unforeseen consequences. One example would be that all government agencies communicate across their checks and balances boundaries with identical encrypted software. All of the government agencies and all hospitals and clinics communicate across their natural boundaries with identical encrypted software. Consent from the individual is not revisited by different agencies or entities if the different organizations already have the ability to communicate via the specific encrypted pathways, and they chose to communicate. Things are just in the developmental stages, but I believe Ken Rose and others have noted the lack of checks and balances already between research labs and government regulatory agencies such as W.H.O. and C.D.C. They now seem to speak nearly with one voice. Those of us who covet a "messy democracy" with much in the way of checks and balances are a bit unnerved by such things. My brother noted, I think correctly that it will take case law to make some appropriate adjustments. A number of people will have to get crunched by the system for such things to proceed. Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Hi Attilio, My HIPAA computer administrator friend got back to me in quite a cursory way. I think my question bugged him as hopelessly naive. His response was that you can use any encryption software as long as it's agreed upon by both sides of the electronic transmission. He noted that your Microsoft XP Pro would have adequate capabilities. That was it. I replied back to him by asking what he meant by "agreed upon by both sides". It's not like you're going to have a casual conversation with government or HMO tech support regarding the "agreed upon" encryption software. Although maybe you are. So I'm still in the dark at the moment. My friend has not replied back. He is in fact the administrator for Univ. of Texas system tech support. I can see that I'm going to have to ply him with some good tonic Chinese formulas to get him in the mood to teach me a few things. Maybe you will have to take one of those arduous weekend seminars. Here in the U.S. the AAOM is developing that little cottage industry. Since current nurse practitioners are getting in depth training in HIPAA, I imagine current students at TCM schools are getting it, too. Or should be. All the best, Emmanuel Segmen Hi Attilio, I believe the encryption software agreed upon for use by federal, state, and local governments as well as hospitals and clinics is unique and must be loaded. But I'm not a CS guy ... I'm biochem, physio, anatomy, cell & molecular and genetics. You can ask me those questions. So to get the correct answer to your question, I'll copy to my friend who administers this software. Emmanuel Segmen Hi Emmanuel,I'm running XP Pro which allows you to encrypt certain areas of your computer, so for example i have encrypted all my documents. Do you know if this encrytption software already supplied by Microsoft with XP Pro, conforms to HIPAA regulations?Atti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Thanks for your efforts Emmanuel. Please let me know what formula you end up using to get the info flood gates open. I have it bottled and on the shelf in six months! Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote: > Hi Attilio, > > My HIPAA computer administrator friend got back to me in quite a cursory way. I think my question bugged him as hopelessly naive. His response was that you can use any encryption software as long as it's agreed upon by both sides of the electronic transmission. He noted that your Microsoft XP Pro would have adequate capabilities. That was it. > > I replied back to him by asking what he meant by " agreed upon by both sides " . It's not like you're going to have a casual conversation with government or HMO tech support regarding the " agreed upon " encryption software. Although maybe you are. So I'm still in the dark at the moment. My friend has not replied back. He is in fact the administrator for Univ. of Texas system tech support. I can see that I'm going to have to ply him with some good tonic Chinese formulas to get him in the mood to teach me a few things. Maybe you will have to take one of those arduous weekend seminars. Here in the U.S. the AAOM is developing that little cottage industry. Since current nurse practitioners are getting in depth training in HIPAA, I imagine current students at TCM schools are getting it, too. Or should be. > > All the best, > Emmanuel Segmen > > Hi Attilio, > > I believe the encryption software agreed upon for use by federal, state, and local governments as well as hospitals and clinics is unique and must be loaded. But I'm not a CS guy ... I'm biochem, physio, anatomy, cell & molecular and genetics. You can ask me those questions. So to get the correct answer to your question, I'll copy to my friend who administers this software. > > Emmanuel Segmen > > > Hi Emmanuel, > > I'm running XP Pro which allows you to encrypt certain areas of your > computer, so for example i have encrypted all my documents. Do you > know if this encrytption software already supplied by Microsoft with > XP Pro, conforms to HIPAA regulations? > > Atti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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