Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hi Mike. I was wondering when we were gonna get your final installment when you were gonna explain how the elements are strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing music composition? Atti Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " <mflegge@h...> wrote: > The eight principles are excellent for herbal preparations but it has been > my experience that acupuncture operates efficiently under either the 8 > principles or the 5 elements. I have had much exposure to the 5 elements > school and the acupuncturists I know that practice the five elements do have > a high success rate. I think the orientation depends on what the > practitioner is more comfortable with. > > In 1999 I presented a case study where I used the eight principles of the I > Ching. It was published in " Engineering in Medicine and Biology " . As far > as the development of a healing music system even the ancient Chinese > d to the five elements. It is in the non-musical systems that > zang fu becomes appropriate. > > Although one could use the five elements for diagnostic purposes in the > healing music system, I have found that kinesiology provides for the best > treatment plans. The treatment is highly individualized and I would, > without further ado, go with the results of individual testing as opposed to > a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing. I have made available > some basic healing musics on my web site. And I am now trying to figure out > a way to make the Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) healing music > compositions available to interested practitioners. (I am open to ideas on > how to accomplish this). > > So, perhaps in the next installment I can explain how the elements are > strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing music > composition. One does not have to be a musical composer in order to > practice this modality but I do want to reveal the underlying structure of > the musical prescriptions. >Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto> > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian Zheng > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > >Fri, 16 May 2003 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) > > > > > >So as I understand, your diagnostic techniques are based upon Five element > >theory. I once attended a lecture of Five element theory being used along > >and found it to be quite restricted, as did other TCM practitioners. > > > > > > > >Can you please present a full case study so I can better understand your > >theory and see it illustrated in a clinical practise setting? > > > > > > > >Also do you have a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing with > >musical treatment strategy? > > > > > > > >Zai Jian > > > > > > > >Attilio > > > > > >Mike Legge <mflegge@h...> wrote:Thank you Allilio for that question. > >It gives me an opportunity to move > >from the theoretical into practical application. > > > >When I said I needed to hear Gb I actually didn't say either the tone or > >the > >scale. I used a kind of shorthand. The full description is – I needed to > >hear a piece of music composed in the key of Gb. Hearing just the tone > >would do nothing to rebalance my metal. I understand that some music > >healers will use repetive tones in order to induce a hypnotic state and/or > >rebalance a chakra or organ. I abandoned that approach in favor of > > " bathing " the patient with real music. > > > >I did indeed listen to one of my pieces composed in the key of Gb. Now in > >music there are 2 basic time signatures 3/4 time and 4/4 time. There are > >other time signatures such as 6/8 or 2/4. In jazz there is a standard piece > >called " Take Five " where the time signature is 5/4 time. It is interesting > >to note that even when I tested professional jazz musicians for healing > >music only the two basic time signatures showed up on the radar screen. > >Further testing revealed that 3/4 time is yin and 4/4 time is yang. > > > >The new full description is – I needed to hear a piece of music composed in > >the key of Gb with a 3/4 time signature. > > > > > > > > > " " > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian Zheng > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > >Thu, 15 May 2003 09:36:16 -0000 > > > > > >So how do you use music in diagnostics as you said that you felt you > > >had to hear a particular note, which i fully understand. But how is > > >that then used in patients? Also from there, how do you use musical > > >notes to provide treatment? > > > > > >Atti > > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " > > > wrote: > > > > Attilio has correctly anticipated the destination. We shall > > >indeed end up > > > > with the identification of the 6 yin tones and the 6 yang tones > > >that have > > > > direct relevance to the meridians/organs and can be used for > > >diagnosis and > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > There are some transition models employed that bring in the time- > > >honored > > > > concepts of TCM while still dealing with the chakra model. Though > > >the model > > > > was complete as of the last writing the fun can now begin by > > >applying some > > > > of the concepts from the Yellow Emperor's Classic. > > > > > > > > From our last discussion we determined that each one of us > > >resonates to > > > > seven of the 12 keys. So what happens when a patient tests for a > > >key that > > > > is not part of their chakra system. This is exactly what happened > > >during > > > > the research and development phase of the healing music system. > > >Using > > > > myself as an example – I have seven chakra keys – Bb, C, D, Eb, F, > > >G and A. > > > > This morning before coming to work I knew I had to listen to Gb. > > >Gb is not > > > > one of my chakra keys. Obviously the Chakra model needs something. > > > > > > > > " Ancient Chinese music theory oriented tonality around a > > >pentatonic scale > > > > (Kung, Shang, Cheuh, Jyy and Yu)…. " Using the E pentatonic scale > > >as an > > > > example we get E, F#, G#, B and C# - Earth, Metal, Wood, Fire & > > >Water. > > > > Using enharmonics we can restate the tones as E, Gb, Ab, B and > > >Db. (Please > > > > note that we are using the tempered scale in these studies.) > > > > > > > > From the above we can now see that I needed to rebalance my Metal > > >this > > > > morning. These five keys are the five missing keys in the chakra > > >model > > > > particular to my energetic system. So, in the Chakra System there > > >are seven > > > > particular keys and in the Five Elements System there are five. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > > > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > > > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > > > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > > > > > > > A tape you can do at home! > > > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > >_______________ > >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hi Atti: I hope to have something together within the next few days. Mike > " " <attiliodalberto >Chinese Traditional Medicine >Chinese Traditional Medicine >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music >Thu, 22 May 2003 11:00:45 -0000 > >Hi Mike. I was wondering when we were gonna get your final >installment when you were gonna explain how the elements are >strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing >music composition? > >Atti > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " ><mflegge@h...> wrote: > > The eight principles are excellent for herbal preparations but it >has been > > my experience that acupuncture operates efficiently under either >the 8 > > principles or the 5 elements. I have had much exposure to the 5 >elements > > school and the acupuncturists I know that practice the five >elements do have > > a high success rate. I think the orientation depends on what the > > practitioner is more comfortable with. > > > > In 1999 I presented a case study where I used the eight principles >of the I > > Ching. It was published in " Engineering in Medicine and >Biology " . As far > > as the development of a healing music system even the ancient >Chinese > > d to the five elements. It is in the non-musical >systems that > > zang fu becomes appropriate. > > > > Although one could use the five elements for diagnostic purposes >in the > > healing music system, I have found that kinesiology provides for >the best > > treatment plans. The treatment is highly individualized and I >would, > > without further ado, go with the results of individual testing as >opposed to > > a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing. I have made >available > > some basic healing musics on my web site. And I am now trying to >figure out > > a way to make the Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) healing music > > compositions available to interested practitioners. (I am open to >ideas on > > how to accomplish this). > > > > So, perhaps in the next installment I can explain how the elements >are > > strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing >music > > composition. One does not have to be a musical composer in order >to > > practice this modality but I do want to reveal the underlying >structure of > > the musical prescriptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto> > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the >Bian Zheng > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) > > > > > > > > >So as I understand, your diagnostic techniques are based upon >Five element > > >theory. I once attended a lecture of Five element theory being >used along > > >and found it to be quite restricted, as did other TCM >practitioners. > > > > > > > > > > > >Can you please present a full case study so I can better >understand your > > >theory and see it illustrated in a clinical practise setting? > > > > > > > > > > > >Also do you have a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing >with > > >musical treatment strategy? > > > > > > > > > > > >Zai Jian > > > > > > > > > > > >Attilio > > > > > > > > >Mike Legge <mflegge@h...> wrote:Thank you Allilio for that >question. > > >It gives me an opportunity to move > > >from the theoretical into practical application. > > > > > >When I said I needed to hear Gb I actually didn't say either the >tone or > > >the > > >scale. I used a kind of shorthand. The full description is – I >needed to > > >hear a piece of music composed in the key of Gb. Hearing just the >tone > > >would do nothing to rebalance my metal. I understand that some >music > > >healers will use repetive tones in order to induce a hypnotic >state and/or > > >rebalance a chakra or organ. I abandoned that approach in favor of > > > " bathing " the patient with real music. > > > > > >I did indeed listen to one of my pieces composed in the key of >Gb. Now in > > >music there are 2 basic time signatures 3/4 time and 4/4 time. >There are > > >other time signatures such as 6/8 or 2/4. In jazz there is a >standard piece > > >called " Take Five " where the time signature is 5/4 time. It is >interesting > > >to note that even when I tested professional jazz musicians for >healing > > >music only the two basic time signatures showed up on the radar >screen. > > >Further testing revealed that 3/4 time is yin and 4/4 time is >yang. > > > > > >The new full description is – I needed to hear a piece of music >composed in > > >the key of Gb with a 3/4 time signature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " " > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian >Zheng > > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > > >Thu, 15 May 2003 09:36:16 -0000 > > > > > > > >So how do you use music in diagnostics as you said that you >felt you > > > >had to hear a particular note, which i fully understand. But >how is > > > >that then used in patients? Also from there, how do you use >musical > > > >notes to provide treatment? > > > > > > > >Atti > > > > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike >Legge " > > > > wrote: > > > > > Attilio has correctly anticipated the destination. We shall > > > >indeed end up > > > > > with the identification of the 6 yin tones and the 6 yang >tones > > > >that have > > > > > direct relevance to the meridians/organs and can be used for > > > >diagnosis and > > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > There are some transition models employed that bring in the >time- > > > >honored > > > > > concepts of TCM while still dealing with the chakra model. >Though > > > >the model > > > > > was complete as of the last writing the fun can now begin by > > > >applying some > > > > > of the concepts from the Yellow Emperor's Classic. > > > > > > > > > > From our last discussion we determined that each one of us > > > >resonates to > > > > > seven of the 12 keys. So what happens when a patient tests >for a > > > >key that > > > > > is not part of their chakra system. This is exactly what >happened > > > >during > > > > > the research and development phase of the healing music >system. > > > >Using > > > > > myself as an example – I have seven chakra keys – Bb, C, D, >Eb, F, > > > >G and A. > > > > > This morning before coming to work I knew I had to listen to >Gb. > > > >Gb is not > > > > > one of my chakra keys. Obviously the Chakra model needs >something. > > > > > > > > > > " Ancient Chinese music theory oriented tonality around a > > > >pentatonic scale > > > > > (Kung, Shang, Cheuh, Jyy and Yu)…. " Using the E pentatonic >scale > > > >as an > > > > > example we get E, F#, G#, B and C# - Earth, Metal, Wood, >Fire & > > > >Water. > > > > > Using enharmonics we can restate the tones as E, Gb, Ab, B >and > > > >Db. (Please > > > > > note that we are using the tempered scale in these studies.) > > > > > > > > > > From the above we can now see that I needed to rebalance my >Metal > > > >this > > > > > morning. These five keys are the five missing keys in the >chakra > > > >model > > > > > particular to my energetic system. So, in the Chakra System >there > > > >are seven > > > > > particular keys and in the Five Elements System there are >five. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > > > > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > > > > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > > > > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > > > > > > > > > A tape you can do at home! > > > > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 The ancient Chinese music healers worked with the pentatonic scales – 5 tones – 5 elements and also 5 modes. In order to understand a mode lets look at the C pentatonic scale C, D, E, G & A & ©. A melody composed in the stated sequence is known as the earth mode. A sequence starting on D is the metal mode and would be D, E, G, A, C & D. The wood mode is E, G, A, C, D & E. The fire mode is G, A, C, D, E & G. And the water mode is A, C, D, E, G & A. As you probably know the creation cycle is water, wood, fire, earth and metal. All of my healing music compositions are created in that modal sequence. The modal melodies flow into one another and it appears seamless. Also, I added back the two missing notes of the C scale (or whatever key I’m working in). The notes F and B bring it back to a diatonic scale. The modern Chinese also work with the diatonic scales. This sequence of modes conforms to the ancient cycle. One caution – arranging your modes according to the control cycle will definitely weaken the energy of the composer. Can a composer use other sequences? Of course, especially if one is composing art music. In fact, using the diatonic scale for a five-part composition there are exactly 2,520 possible sequences. I have provided an excel spreadsheet @ http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine/composer.htm that is interactive for all 12 keys. If you don’t have excel, microsoft has provided a free reader and that link is on the above referenced page. I have just one more concept “Strengthening the Elements” to discuss and then I will be able to drop the chakra system previously discussed and outline the finer points of the Meridian/Organ Tonal system with the 6 yin keys and the 6 yang keys. The Chinese biological clock proved instrumental in fleshing out this system. > " " <attiliodalberto >Chinese Traditional Medicine >Chinese Traditional Medicine >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music >Thu, 22 May 2003 11:00:45 -0000 > >Hi Mike. I was wondering when we were gonna get your final >installment when you were gonna explain how the elements are >strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing >music composition? > >Atti > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " ><mflegge@h...> wrote: > > The eight principles are excellent for herbal preparations but it >has been > > my experience that acupuncture operates efficiently under either >the 8 > > principles or the 5 elements. I have had much exposure to the 5 >elements > > school and the acupuncturists I know that practice the five >elements do have > > a high success rate. I think the orientation depends on what the > > practitioner is more comfortable with. > > > > In 1999 I presented a case study where I used the eight principles >of the I > > Ching. It was published in " Engineering in Medicine and >Biology " . As far > > as the development of a healing music system even the ancient >Chinese > > d to the five elements. It is in the non-musical >systems that > > zang fu becomes appropriate. > > > > Although one could use the five elements for diagnostic purposes >in the > > healing music system, I have found that kinesiology provides for >the best > > treatment plans. The treatment is highly individualized and I >would, > > without further ado, go with the results of individual testing as >opposed to > > a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing. I have made >available > > some basic healing musics on my web site. And I am now trying to >figure out > > a way to make the Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) healing music > > compositions available to interested practitioners. (I am open to >ideas on > > how to accomplish this). > > > > So, perhaps in the next installment I can explain how the elements >are > > strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing >music > > composition. One does not have to be a musical composer in order >to > > practice this modality but I do want to reveal the underlying >structure of > > the musical prescriptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto> > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the >Bian Zheng > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) > > > > > > > > >So as I understand, your diagnostic techniques are based upon >Five element > > >theory. I once attended a lecture of Five element theory being >used along > > >and found it to be quite restricted, as did other TCM >practitioners. > > > > > > > > > > > >Can you please present a full case study so I can better >understand your > > >theory and see it illustrated in a clinical practise setting? > > > > > > > > > > > >Also do you have a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing >with > > >musical treatment strategy? > > > > > > > > > > > >Zai Jian > > > > > > > > > > > >Attilio > > > > > > > > >Mike Legge <mflegge@h...> wrote:Thank you Allilio for that >question. > > >It gives me an opportunity to move > > >from the theoretical into practical application. > > > > > >When I said I needed to hear Gb I actually didn't say either the >tone or > > >the > > >scale. I used a kind of shorthand. The full description is – I >needed to > > >hear a piece of music composed in the key of Gb. Hearing just the >tone > > >would do nothing to rebalance my metal. I understand that some >music > > >healers will use repetive tones in order to induce a hypnotic >state and/or > > >rebalance a chakra or organ. I abandoned that approach in favor of > > > " bathing " the patient with real music. > > > > > >I did indeed listen to one of my pieces composed in the key of >Gb. Now in > > >music there are 2 basic time signatures 3/4 time and 4/4 time. >There are > > >other time signatures such as 6/8 or 2/4. In jazz there is a >standard piece > > >called " Take Five " where the time signature is 5/4 time. It is >interesting > > >to note that even when I tested professional jazz musicians for >healing > > >music only the two basic time signatures showed up on the radar >screen. > > >Further testing revealed that 3/4 time is yin and 4/4 time is >yang. > > > > > >The new full description is – I needed to hear a piece of music >composed in > > >the key of Gb with a 3/4 time signature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " " > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian >Zheng > > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > > >Thu, 15 May 2003 09:36:16 -0000 > > > > > > > >So how do you use music in diagnostics as you said that you >felt you > > > >had to hear a particular note, which i fully understand. But >how is > > > >that then used in patients? Also from there, how do you use >musical > > > >notes to provide treatment? > > > > > > > >Atti > > > > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike >Legge " > > > > wrote: > > > > > Attilio has correctly anticipated the destination. We shall > > > >indeed end up > > > > > with the identification of the 6 yin tones and the 6 yang >tones > > > >that have > > > > > direct relevance to the meridians/organs and can be used for > > > >diagnosis and > > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > There are some transition models employed that bring in the >time- > > > >honored > > > > > concepts of TCM while still dealing with the chakra model. >Though > > > >the model > > > > > was complete as of the last writing the fun can now begin by > > > >applying some > > > > > of the concepts from the Yellow Emperor's Classic. > > > > > > > > > > From our last discussion we determined that each one of us > > > >resonates to > > > > > seven of the 12 keys. So what happens when a patient tests >for a > > > >key that > > > > > is not part of their chakra system. This is exactly what >happened > > > >during > > > > > the research and development phase of the healing music >system. > > > >Using > > > > > myself as an example – I have seven chakra keys – Bb, C, D, >Eb, F, > > > >G and A. > > > > > This morning before coming to work I knew I had to listen to >Gb. > > > >Gb is not > > > > > one of my chakra keys. Obviously the Chakra model needs >something. > > > > > > > > > > " Ancient Chinese music theory oriented tonality around a > > > >pentatonic scale > > > > > (Kung, Shang, Cheuh, Jyy and Yu)…. " Using the E pentatonic >scale > > > >as an > > > > > example we get E, F#, G#, B and C# - Earth, Metal, Wood, >Fire & > > > >Water. > > > > > Using enharmonics we can restate the tones as E, Gb, Ab, B >and > > > >Db. (Please > > > > > note that we are using the tempered scale in these studies.) > > > > > > > > > > From the above we can now see that I needed to rebalance my >Metal > > > >this > > > > > morning. These five keys are the five missing keys in the >chakra > > > >model > > > > > particular to my energetic system. So, in the Chakra System >there > > > >are seven > > > > > particular keys and in the Five Elements System there are >five. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > > > > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > > > > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > > > > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > > > > > > > > > A tape you can do at home! > > > > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Thank you for your explaination Mike. To be honest, i'm still a little baffled with it all. However, i have just purchased Acutone by Lloyd and Pirog and am slowly plodding through it. Can you suggest anyother books or articles for lay people like me? Atti Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " <mflegge@h...> wrote: > > The ancient Chinese music healers worked with the pentatonic scales – 5 > tones – 5 elements and also 5 modes. In order to understand a mode lets > look at the C pentatonic scale C, D, E, G & A & ©. A melody composed in > the stated sequence is known as the earth mode. A sequence starting on D is > the metal mode and would be D, E, G, A, C & D. The wood mode is E, G, A, C, > D & E. The fire mode is G, A, C, D, E & G. And the water mode is A, C, D, > E, G & A. > > As you probably know the creation cycle is water, wood, fire, earth and > metal. All of my healing music compositions are created in that modal > sequence. The modal melodies flow into one another and it appears seamless. > Also, I added back the two missing notes of the C scale (or whatever key > I'm working in). The notes F and B bring it back to a diatonic scale. The > modern Chinese also work with the diatonic scales. > > This sequence of modes conforms to the ancient cycle. One caution – > arranging your modes according to the control cycle will definitely weaken > the energy of the composer. Can a composer use other sequences? Of course, > especially if one is composing art music. In fact, using the diatonic scale > for a five-part composition there are exactly 2,520 possible sequences. I > have provided an excel spreadsheet @ > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine/composer.htm that is interactive for > all 12 keys. If you don't have excel, microsoft has provided a free reader > and that link is on the above referenced page. > > I have just one more concept " Strengthening the Elements " to discuss and > then I will be able to drop the chakra system previously discussed and > outline the finer points of the Meridian/Organ Tonal system with the 6 yin > keys and the 6 yang keys. The Chinese biological clock proved instrumental > in fleshing out this system. > > > " " <attiliodalberto> > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music > >Thu, 22 May 2003 11:00:45 -0000 > > > >Hi Mike. I was wondering when we were gonna get your final > >installment when you were gonna explain how the elements are > >strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing > >music composition? > > > >Atti > > > > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " > ><mflegge@h...> wrote: > > > The eight principles are excellent for herbal preparations but it > >has been > > > my experience that acupuncture operates efficiently under either > >the 8 > > > principles or the 5 elements. I have had much exposure to the 5 > >elements > > > school and the acupuncturists I know that practice the five > >elements do have > > > a high success rate. I think the orientation depends on what the > > > practitioner is more comfortable with. > > > > > > In 1999 I presented a case study where I used the eight principles > >of the I > > > Ching. It was published in " Engineering in Medicine and > >Biology " . As far > > > as the development of a healing music system even the ancient > >Chinese > > > d to the five elements. It is in the non-musical > >systems that > > > zang fu becomes appropriate. > > > > > > Although one could use the five elements for diagnostic purposes > >in the > > > healing music system, I have found that kinesiology provides for > >the best > > > treatment plans. The treatment is highly individualized and I > >would, > > > without further ado, go with the results of individual testing as > >opposed to > > > a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing. I have made > >available > > > some basic healing musics on my web site. And I am now trying to > >figure out > > > a way to make the Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) healing music > > > compositions available to interested practitioners. (I am open to > >ideas on > > > how to accomplish this). > > > > > > So, perhaps in the next installment I can explain how the elements > >are > > > strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing > >music > > > composition. One does not have to be a musical composer in order > >to > > > practice this modality but I do want to reveal the underlying > >structure of > > > the musical prescriptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto> > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the > >Bian Zheng > > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) > > > > > > > > > > > >So as I understand, your diagnostic techniques are based upon > >Five element > > > >theory. I once attended a lecture of Five element theory being > >used along > > > >and found it to be quite restricted, as did other TCM > >practitioners. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Can you please present a full case study so I can better > >understand your > > > >theory and see it illustrated in a clinical practise setting? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Also do you have a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing > >with > > > >musical treatment strategy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Zai Jian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Attilio > > > > > > > > > > > >Mike Legge <mflegge@h...> wrote:Thank you Allilio for that > >question. > > > >It gives me an opportunity to move > > > >from the theoretical into practical application. > > > > > > > >When I said I needed to hear Gb I actually didn't say either the > >tone or > > > >the > > > >scale. I used a kind of shorthand. The full description is – I > >needed to > > > >hear a piece of music composed in the key of Gb. Hearing just the > >tone > > > >would do nothing to rebalance my metal. I understand that some > >music > > > >healers will use repetive tones in order to induce a hypnotic > >state and/or > > > >rebalance a chakra or organ. I abandoned that approach in favor of > > > > " bathing " the patient with real music. > > > > > > > >I did indeed listen to one of my pieces composed in the key of > >Gb. Now in > > > >music there are 2 basic time signatures 3/4 time and 4/4 time. > >There are > > > >other time signatures such as 6/8 or 2/4. In jazz there is a > >standard piece > > > >called " Take Five " where the time signature is 5/4 time. It is > >interesting > > > >to note that even when I tested professional jazz musicians for > >healing > > > >music only the two basic time signatures showed up on the radar > >screen. > > > >Further testing revealed that 3/4 time is yin and 4/4 time is > >yang. > > > > > > > >The new full description is – I needed to hear a piece of music > >composed in > > > >the key of Gb with a 3/4 time signature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " " > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian > >Zheng > > > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > > > > >Thu, 15 May 2003 09:36:16 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >So how do you use music in diagnostics as you said that you > >felt you > > > > >had to hear a particular note, which i fully understand. But > >how is > > > > >that then used in patients? Also from there, how do you use > >musical > > > > >notes to provide treatment? > > > > > > > > > >Atti > > > > > > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike > >Legge " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Attilio has correctly anticipated the destination. We shall > > > > >indeed end up > > > > > > with the identification of the 6 yin tones and the 6 yang > >tones > > > > >that have > > > > > > direct relevance to the meridians/organs and can be used for > > > > >diagnosis and > > > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some transition models employed that bring in the > >time- > > > > >honored > > > > > > concepts of TCM while still dealing with the chakra model. > >Though > > > > >the model > > > > > > was complete as of the last writing the fun can now begin by > > > > >applying some > > > > > > of the concepts from the Yellow Emperor's Classic. > > > > > > > > > > > > From our last discussion we determined that each one of us > > > > >resonates to > > > > > > seven of the 12 keys. So what happens when a patient tests > >for a > > > > >key that > > > > > > is not part of their chakra system. This is exactly what > >happened > > > > >during > > > > > > the research and development phase of the healing music > >system. > > > > >Using > > > > > > myself as an example – I have seven chakra keys – Bb, C, D, > >Eb, F, > > > > >G and A. > > > > > > This morning before coming to work I knew I had to listen to > >Gb. > > > > >Gb is not > > > > > > one of my chakra keys. Obviously the Chakra model needs > >something. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ancient Chinese music theory oriented tonality around a > > > > >pentatonic scale > > > > > > (Kung, Shang, Cheuh, Jyy and Yu)…. " Using the E pentatonic > >scale > > > > >as an > > > > > > example we get E, F#, G#, B and C# - Earth, Metal, Wood, > >Fire & > > > > >Water. > > > > > > Using enharmonics we can restate the tones as E, Gb, Ab, B > >and > > > > >Db. (Please > > > > > > note that we are using the tempered scale in these studies.) > > > > > > > > > > > > From the above we can now see that I needed to rebalance my > >Metal > > > > >this > > > > > > morning. These five keys are the five missing keys in the > >chakra > > > > >model > > > > > > particular to my energetic system. So, in the Chakra System > >there > > > > >are seven > > > > > > particular keys and in the Five Elements System there are > >five. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > > > > > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > > > > > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > > > > > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > > > > > > > > > > > A tape you can do at home! > > > > > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hi Atti: Thanks for attempting to keep up with me. Back in the early 90's I was completely dissatisfied with the state of the music therapy/music healing field. My studies in TCM grew out of that dissatisfaction. I proceeded to conduct rigorous R & D, which has been entirely underwritten by myself. There is no other book or website that has been able to correlate music theory and practice to the time honored principles of TCM, with the precision that I have. I'll try to come up with a different approach in order to get the material across. Mike - Chinese Traditional Medicine Monday, May 26, 2003 3:29 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music Thank you for your explaination Mike. To be honest, i'm still a little baffled with it all. However, i have just purchased Acutone by Lloyd and Pirog and am slowly plodding through it. Can you suggest anyother books or articles for lay people like me?AttiChinese Traditional Medicine , "Mike Legge" <mflegge@h...> wrote:> > The ancient Chinese music healers worked with the pentatonic scales – 5 > tones – 5 elements and also 5 modes. In order to understand a mode lets > look at the C pentatonic scale C, D, E, G & A & ©. A melody composed in > the stated sequence is known as the earth mode. A sequence starting on D is > the metal mode and would be D, E, G, A, C & D. The wood mode is E, G, A, C, > D & E. The fire mode is G, A, C, D, E & G. And the water mode is A, C, D, > E, G & A.> > As you probably know the creation cycle is water, wood, fire, earth and > metal. All of my healing music compositions are created in that modal > sequence. The modal melodies flow into one another and it appears seamless. > Also, I added back the two missing notes of the C scale (or whatever key > I'm working in). The notes F and B bring it back to a diatonic scale. The > modern Chinese also work with the diatonic scales.> > This sequence of modes conforms to the ancient cycle. One caution –> arranging your modes according to the control cycle will definitely weaken > the energy of the composer. Can a composer use other sequences? Of course, > especially if one is composing art music. In fact, using the diatonic scale > for a five-part composition there are exactly 2,520 possible sequences. I > have provided an excel spreadsheet @> http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine/composer.htm that is interactive for > all 12 keys. If you don't have excel, microsoft has provided a free reader > and that link is on the above referenced page.> > I have just one more concept "Strengthening the Elements" to discuss and > then I will be able to drop the chakra system previously discussed and > outline the finer points of the Meridian/Organ Tonal system with the 6 yin > keys and the 6 yang keys. The Chinese biological clock proved instrumental > in fleshing out this system.> > >"" <attiliodalberto>> >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music> >Thu, 22 May 2003 11:00:45 -0000> >> >Hi Mike. I was wondering when we were gonna get your final> >installment when you were gonna explain how the elements are> >strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing> >music composition?> >> >Atti> >> >> >> >Chinese Traditional Medicine , "Mike Legge"> ><mflegge@h...> wrote:> > > The eight principles are excellent for herbal preparations but it> >has been> > > my experience that acupuncture operates efficiently under either> >the 8> > > principles or the 5 elements. I have had much exposure to the 5> >elements> > > school and the acupuncturists I know that practice the five> >elements do have> > > a high success rate. I think the orientation depends on what the> > > practitioner is more comfortable with.> > >> > > In 1999 I presented a case study where I used the eight principles> >of the I> > > Ching. It was published in "Engineering in Medicine and> >Biology". As far> > > as the development of a healing music system even the ancient> >Chinese> > > d to the five elements. It is in the non-musical> >systems that> > > zang fu becomes appropriate.> > >> > > Although one could use the five elements for diagnostic purposes> >in the> > > healing music system, I have found that kinesiology provides for> >the best> > > treatment plans. The treatment is highly individualized and I> >would,> > > without further ado, go with the results of individual testing as> >opposed to> > > a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing. I have made> >available> > > some basic healing musics on my web site. And I am now trying to> >figure out> > > a way to make the Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) healing music> > > compositions available to interested practitioners. (I am open to> >ideas on> > > how to accomplish this).> > >> > > So, perhaps in the next installment I can explain how the elements> >are> > > strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing> >music> > > composition. One does not have to be a musical composer in order> >to> > > practice this modality but I do want to reveal the underlying> >structure of> > > the musical prescriptions.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto>> > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the> >Bian Zheng> > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music> > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 14:14:14 +0100 (BST)> > > >> > > >> > > >So as I understand, your diagnostic techniques are based upon> >Five element> > > >theory. I once attended a lecture of Five element theory being> >used along> > > >and found it to be quite restricted, as did other TCM> >practitioners.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Can you please present a full case study so I can better> >understand your> > > >theory and see it illustrated in a clinical practise setting?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Also do you have a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing> >with> > > >musical treatment strategy?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Zai Jian> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Attilio> > > >> > > >> > > >Mike Legge <mflegge@h...> wrote:Thank you Allilio for that> >question.> > > >It gives me an opportunity to move> > > >from the theoretical into practical application.> > > >> > > >When I said I needed to hear Gb I actually didn't say either the> >tone or> > > >the> > > >scale. I used a kind of shorthand. The full description is – I> >needed to> > > >hear a piece of music composed in the key of Gb. Hearing just the> >tone> > > >would do nothing to rebalance my metal. I understand that some> >music> > > >healers will use repetive tones in order to induce a hypnotic> >state and/or> > > >rebalance a chakra or organ. I abandoned that approach in favor of> > > >"bathing" the patient with real music.> > > >> > > >I did indeed listen to one of my pieces composed in the key of> >Gb. Now in> > > >music there are 2 basic time signatures 3/4 time and 4/4 time.> >There are> > > >other time signatures such as 6/8 or 2/4. In jazz there is a> >standard piece> > > >called "Take Five" where the time signature is 5/4 time. It is> >interesting> > > >to note that even when I tested professional jazz musicians for> >healing> > > >music only the two basic time signatures showed up on the radar> >screen.> > > >Further testing revealed that 3/4 time is yin and 4/4 time is> >yang.> > > >> > > >The new full description is – I needed to hear a piece of music> >composed in> > > >the key of Gb with a 3/4 time signature.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >""> > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian> >Zheng> > > > >Lunzhi in Healing Music> > > > >Thu, 15 May 2003 09:36:16 -0000> > > > >> > > > >So how do you use music in diagnostics as you said that you> >felt you> > > > >had to hear a particular note, which i fully understand. But> >how is> > > > >that then used in patients? Also from there, how do you use> >musical> > > > >notes to provide treatment?> > > > >> > > > >Atti> > > > >> > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , "Mike> >Legge"> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Attilio has correctly anticipated the destination. We shall> > > > >indeed end up> > > > > > with the identification of the 6 yin tones and the 6 yang> >tones> > > > >that have> > > > > > direct relevance to the meridians/organs and can be used for> > > > >diagnosis and> > > > > > treatment.> > > > > >> > > > > > There are some transition models employed that bring in the> >time-> > > > >honored> > > > > > concepts of TCM while still dealing with the chakra model.> >Though> > > > >the model> > > > > > was complete as of the last writing the fun can now begin by> > > > >applying some> > > > > > of the concepts from the Yellow Emperor's Classic.> > > > > >> > > > > > From our last discussion we determined that each one of us> > > > >resonates to> > > > > > seven of the 12 keys. So what happens when a patient tests> >for a> > > > >key that> > > > > > is not part of their chakra system. This is exactly what> >happened> > > > >during> > > > > > the research and development phase of the healing music> >system.> > > > >Using> > > > > > myself as an example – I have seven chakra keys – Bb, C, D,> >Eb, F,> > > > >G and A.> > > > > > This morning before coming to work I knew I had to listen to> >Gb.> > > > >Gb is not> > > > > > one of my chakra keys. Obviously the Chakra model needs> >something.> > > > > >> > > > > > "Ancient Chinese music theory oriented tonality around a> > > > >pentatonic scale> > > > > > (Kung, Shang, Cheuh, Jyy and Yu)…." Using the E pentatonic> >scale> > > > >as an> > > > > > example we get E, F#, G#, B and C# - Earth, Metal, Wood,> >Fire & > > > > >Water.> > > > > > Using enharmonics we can restate the tones as E, Gb, Ab, B> >and> > > > >Db. (Please> > > > > > note that we are using the tempered scale in these studies.)> > > > > >> > > > > > From the above we can now see that I needed to rebalance my> >Metal> > > > >this> > > > > > morning. These five keys are the five missing keys in the> >chakra> > > > >model> > > > > > particular to my energetic system. So, in the Chakra System> >there> > > > >are seven> > > > > > particular keys and in the Five Elements System there are> >five.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS)> > > > > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through:> > > > > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation> > > > > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine> > > > > >> > > > > > A tape you can do at home!> > > > > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com> > > > > >> > > > > >> >_______________> > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Atti: I switched roles – from research scientist to practitioner. Hopefully the following will give you more of a feel as well as deepening your’s and other interested parties’ understanding of the modality. Mike This morning I had an appointment with a new patient. “Dianne” wants to control her diabetes. Her doctor put her on oral meds but she wants to now explore alternative or more natural methods of management, since the oral meds may become ineffective within 6 months. Her doctor is also working with her on diet and exercise. After the intake I agree that the healing music modality could help her to achieve her goal but I caution her not to change her dosage without her doctor’s knowledge. She agrees and we proceed to the next step of the treatment. Dianne is now on the massage table ready to be muscle tested for the correct healing music. We go through some preliminary testing to acquaint her with the technique. Her right arm is her dominant arm so I press down on her left while saying “Dianne is lying on her stomach”. When I tell a lie her energy weakens and her left arm goes down. So now I say that “Dianne is lying on her back” and her arm is stiff as a board. When I tell the truth her energy is strong. So now I test her for the 12 keys of music finding out which key she needs to hear at this time in order to help her manage her diabetes. She tests for the Key of Eb. After testing for key signature I now test for time signature. Her arm remains strong for 4/4 time, which is yang time. (Through the use of non-harmonic tones I have built into the compositions “Strengthening the Elements”). Her energy becomes strong when I say I can Strengthen her Earth with my music medicne. My musical remedies, prepared according to the principles of TCM, are all stored in my computer, although I do have them on 10 CDs as a back up. I have her sit in the lazy boy recliner. The lazy boy recliner is surrounded by 5 speakers plus a sub-woofer. In fact the sound system is called surround sound. The healing music composition will “bath” Dianne with the healing musical vibrations I just tested her for. I have her close her eyes and breathe deeply a couple of times. I then say to her, “Let your hands relax….. that’s it…just relax and let go of any and all tension. Now let your wrists relax…. Feel the relaxation moving from your hands into your wrists. It feels so good just to relax. You can now feel the deep, deep relaxation moving into your forearms… and now into your elbows. Your upper arms are becoming heavy with relaxation. You let go more… and more…and more. You relax more and more. You now let go in your shoulders. You can feel your shoulders becoming more relaxed. All tension has left your hands and arms. And now…..you feel the relaxation in the back of your neck… smooth and relaxed…letting go…. This deep relaxation is now spreading to your scalp…. very, very relaxed. Now…the relaxation is moving across your forehead…. That’s it, just let go and relax….. Your eyes are becoming heavy with relaxation…the muscles around your eyes are becoming more and more relaxed. Your nose is relaxed. And so are your cheeks….and ears. Your ears are very relaxed. You now relax the muscles around your mouth. And now you relax your upper jaw…your lower jaw… more and more…..relaxed. This pleasant relaxation is now spreading to your throat. And now you relax your chest....your stomach...Your back is becoming quite relaxed. You can feel your upper back relaxing…and your middle back …and now your lower back. This wonderful relaxation is now spreading down your hips and into your thighs. You relax your thighs…deeply relaxed. You can now feel the relaxation in your knees….. and lower legs……The relaxation is now spreading to your ankles and feet…… Your whole body is very deeply relaxed….and you have let go of any and all tension…..Your mind is at peace…You have a very…..very tranquil state of mind. You can appreciate this quietness of mind.….You allow your mind to go deeper and deeper into tranquility…… I am now going to count backwards from ten all the way down to one….and with each count you go deeper and deeper, becoming more relaxed…and more and more peaceful….ten…….nine…..on the next count you allow yourself to doubly relax…that’s right….twice as relaxed as you are now….eight……very good……seven…letting go more and more…..six……deeper and deeper…..five…..more relaxed…….four…..very….very tranquil and peaceful…..three…….two…..and one. Now that the patient is in a deeply receptive state I enable the healing music. It gently surrounds the patient and I notice the musical medicine taking effect. The music continues for 6 minutes. I then gently bring her out of the hypnotic state by counting from one to five…… ”One….it is now time to begin coming back to your normal state of awareness…..two…I want you to now start thinking about where you are…..three….just start to think about moving your arms and legs……four…..think about opening your eyes….and five.. open your eyes bringing with you all the healing energy you have just generated”. At this point my patients usually gently chide me for bringing them back to their beta state. Most have a very pleasant therapeutic experience with this modality. Actually they are usually not all the way back simply through the counting from one to five and we chat for a bit till she is ready to stand up. The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine A tape you can do at home! http://www.my-hypnocise.com " " <attiliodalberto Chinese Traditional Medicine Chinese Traditional Medicine [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music Mon, 26 May 2003 07:29:20 -0000 Thank you for your explaination Mike. To be honest, i'm still a little baffled with it all. However, i have just purchased Acutone by Lloyd and Pirog and am slowly plodding through it. Can you suggest anyother books or articles for lay people like me? Atti _______________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Geez, what a lot of work to understand the music therapy system! Did anyone mention to the patient that a combination of chromium piccolinate and essential fatty acids is critical supplementation for diabetes? A little alpha lipoic acid wouldn't hurt either. I have used this with appropriate Chinese medicinals and had diabetic patients be totally off their glucophage ( of course the right diet helps too) with normal /in range sugar readings. I mean if you are going to say you do and you are having them sit and listen to music doesn't anything go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Hi Mike. Glad to see you are still persevering with my ignorance, I found what you mentioned very interesting and I have a few more questions for you. Can you explain ore about the muscle test you do? It seems that a lot of your diagnostic procedure is based upon this and I'll like to know more about it. In your treatment, you gave her Eb, would that be Earth? This would fit very well into the diabetes in TCM (Xiao Ke), as middle xiao is Spleen related. Do you symptoms fit this model, i.e. Stomach Fire: Thirst, hunger and urination: excessive intake of water and food, feeling hungry all the time, dark urine. Other symptoms: constipation, weight loss Tongue and pulse: yellow coating, slippery and solid pulse. Or Spleen and Stomach Qi Deficiency: Thirst, hunger and urination: thirsty but drinks not much and hungry but appetite is poor. If drinking a little more there will be oedema. Feeling very weak when slightly hungry, clear and sweet urine. Other symptoms: lassitude and tiredness, loose faeces. Tongue and pulse: pale tongue, weak pulse? Atti Chinese Medicine , " Mike Legge " <mflegge@h...> wrote: > Atti: > > I switched roles – from research scientist to practitioner. Hopefully the > following will give you more of a feel as well as deepening your's and other > interested parties' understanding of the modality. > > Mike > > > This morning I had an appointment with a new patient. " Dianne " wants to > control her diabetes. Her doctor put her on oral meds but she wants to now > explore alternative or more natural methods of management, since the oral > meds may become ineffective within 6 months. Her doctor is also working with > her on diet and exercise. After the intake I agree that the healing music > modality could help her to achieve her goal but I caution her not to change > her dosage without her doctor's knowledge. She agrees and we proceed to the > next step of the treatment. > > Dianne is now on the massage table ready to be muscle tested for the correct > healing music. We go through some preliminary testing to acquaint her with > the technique. Her right arm is her dominant arm so I press down on her > left while saying " Dianne is lying on her stomach " . When I tell a lie her > energy weakens and her left arm goes down. So now I say that " Dianne is > lying on her back " and her arm is stiff as a board. When I tell the truth > her energy is strong. > > So now I test her for the 12 keys of music finding out which key she needs > to hear at this time in order to help her manage her diabetes. She tests > for the Key of Eb. After testing for key signature I now test for time > signature. Her arm remains strong for 4/4 time, which is yang time. > (Through the use of non-harmonic tones I have built into the compositions > " Strengthening the Elements " ). Her energy becomes strong when I say I can > Strengthen her Earth with my music medicne. My musical remedies, prepared > according to the principles of TCM, are all stored in my computer, although > I do have them on 10 CDs as a back up. I have her sit in the lazy boy > recliner. > > The lazy boy recliner is surrounded by 5 speakers plus a sub- woofer. In > fact the sound system is called surround sound. The healing music > composition will " bath " Dianne with the healing musical vibrations I just > tested her for. I have her close her eyes and breathe deeply a couple of > times. > > I then say to her, " Let your hands relax….. that's it…just relax and let go > of any and all tension. Now let your wrists relax…. Feel the relaxation > moving from your hands into your wrists. It feels so good just to relax. > You can now feel the deep, deep relaxation moving into your forearms… and > now into your elbows. Your upper arms are becoming heavy with relaxation. > You let go more… and more…and more. You relax more and more. You now let > go in your shoulders. You can feel your shoulders becoming more relaxed. > All tension has left your hands and arms. And now…..you feel the relaxation > in the back of your neck… smooth and relaxed…letting go…. This deep > relaxation is now spreading to your scalp…. very, very relaxed. Now…the > relaxation is moving across your forehead…. That's it, just let go and > relax….. Your eyes are becoming heavy with relaxation…the muscles around > your eyes are becoming more and more relaxed. Your nose is relaxed. And so > are your cheeks….and ears. Your ears are very relaxed. You now relax the > muscles around your mouth. And now you relax your upper jaw…your lower jaw… > more and more…..relaxed. This pleasant relaxation is now spreading to your > throat. And now you relax your chest....your stomach...Your back is > becoming quite relaxed. You can feel your upper back relaxing…and your > middle back …and now your lower back. This wonderful relaxation is now > spreading down your hips and into your thighs. You relax your thighs…deeply > relaxed. You can now feel the relaxation in your knees….. and lower > legs……The relaxation is now spreading to your ankles and feet…… Your whole > body is very deeply relaxed….and you have let go of any and all > tension…..Your mind is at peace…You have a very…..very tranquil state of > mind. You can appreciate this quietness of mind.….You allow your mind to > go deeper and deeper into tranquility…… > > I am now going to count backwards from ten all the way down to one….and with > each count you go deeper and deeper, becoming more relaxed…and more and more > peaceful….ten…….nine…..on the next count you allow yourself to doubly > relax…that's right….twice as relaxed as you are now….eight……very > good……seven…letting go more and more…..six……deeper and deeper…..five…..more > relaxed…….four…..very….very tranquil and peaceful…..three…….two…..and one. > > Now that the patient is in a deeply receptive state I enable the healing > music. It gently surrounds the patient and I notice the musical medicine > taking effect. The music continues for 6 minutes. I then gently bring her > out of the hypnotic state by counting from one to five…… > > " One….it is now time to begin coming back to your normal state of > awareness…..two…I want you to now start thinking about where you > are…..three….just start to think about moving your arms and > legs……four…..think about opening your eyes….and five.. open your eyes > bringing with you all the healing energy you have just generated " . > > At this point my patients usually gently chide me for bringing them back to > their beta state. Most have a very pleasant therapeutic experience with > this modality. Actually they are usually not all the way back simply > through the counting from one to five and we chat for a bit till she is > ready to stand up. > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > A tape you can do at home! > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > " " <attiliodalberto> > Chinese Traditional Medicine > Chinese Traditional Medicine > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music > Mon, 26 May 2003 07:29:20 -0000 > > Thank you for your explaination Mike. To be honest, i'm still a > little baffled with it all. However, i have just purchased Acutone > by Lloyd and Pirog and am slowly plodding through it. Can you > suggest anyother books or articles for lay people like me? > > Atti > > _______________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Hi Attilio: The case was already diagnosed as diabetes. The muscle testing is similar to the technique used in NAET. Her next treatment could very well be in another key with a different elemental strengthening. Mike > " " <attiliodalberto >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >[Chinese Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing Music >Thu, 29 May 2003 18:15:20 -0000 > >Hi Mike. Glad to see you are still persevering with my ignorance, I >found what you mentioned very interesting and I have a few more >questions for you. > >Can you explain ore about the muscle test you do? It seems that a >lot of your diagnostic procedure is based upon this and I'll like to >know more about it. > >In your treatment, you gave her Eb, would that be Earth? This would >fit very well into the diabetes in TCM (Xiao Ke), as middle xiao is >Spleen related. Do you symptoms fit this model, i.e. Stomach Fire: >Thirst, hunger and urination: excessive intake of water and food, >feeling hungry all the time, dark urine. Other symptoms: >constipation, weight loss Tongue and pulse: yellow coating, slippery >and solid pulse. Or Spleen and Stomach Qi Deficiency: Thirst, hunger >and urination: thirsty but drinks not much and hungry but appetite >is poor. If drinking a little more there will be oedema. Feeling >very weak when slightly hungry, clear and sweet urine. Other >symptoms: lassitude and tiredness, loose faeces. Tongue and pulse: >pale tongue, weak pulse? > >Atti > >Chinese Medicine , " Mike Legge " ><mflegge@h...> wrote: > > Atti: > > > > I switched roles – from research scientist to practitioner. >Hopefully the > > following will give you more of a feel as well as deepening your's >and other > > interested parties' understanding of the modality. > > > > Mike > > > > > > This morning I had an appointment with a new patient. " Dianne " >wants to > > control her diabetes. Her doctor put her on oral meds but she >wants to now > > explore alternative or more natural methods of management, since >the oral > > meds may become ineffective within 6 months. Her doctor is also >working with > > her on diet and exercise. After the intake I agree that the >healing music > > modality could help her to achieve her goal but I caution her not >to change > > her dosage without her doctor's knowledge. She agrees and we >proceed to the > > next step of the treatment. > > > > Dianne is now on the massage table ready to be muscle tested for >the correct > > healing music. We go through some preliminary testing to acquaint >her with > > the technique. Her right arm is her dominant arm so I press down >on her > > left while saying " Dianne is lying on her stomach " . When I tell a >lie her > > energy weakens and her left arm goes down. So now I say >that " Dianne is > > lying on her back " and her arm is stiff as a board. When I tell >the truth > > her energy is strong. > > > > So now I test her for the 12 keys of music finding out which key >she needs > > to hear at this time in order to help her manage her diabetes. >She tests > > for the Key of Eb. After testing for key signature I now test for >time > > signature. Her arm remains strong for 4/4 time, which is yang >time. > > (Through the use of non-harmonic tones I have built into the >compositions > > " Strengthening the Elements " ). Her energy becomes strong when I >say I can > > Strengthen her Earth with my music medicne. My musical remedies, >prepared > > according to the principles of TCM, are all stored in my computer, >although > > I do have them on 10 CDs as a back up. I have her sit in the lazy >boy > > recliner. > > > > The lazy boy recliner is surrounded by 5 speakers plus a sub- >woofer. In > > fact the sound system is called surround sound. The healing music > > composition will " bath " Dianne with the healing musical vibrations >I just > > tested her for. I have her close her eyes and breathe deeply a >couple of > > times. > > > > I then say to her, " Let your hands relax….. that's it…just relax >and let go > > of any and all tension. Now let your wrists relax…. Feel the >relaxation > > moving from your hands into your wrists. It feels so good just to >relax. > > You can now feel the deep, deep relaxation moving into your >forearms… and > > now into your elbows. Your upper arms are becoming heavy with >relaxation. > > You let go more… and more…and more. You relax more and more. You >now let > > go in your shoulders. You can feel your shoulders becoming more >relaxed. > > All tension has left your hands and arms. And now…..you feel the >relaxation > > in the back of your neck… smooth and relaxed…letting go…. This >deep > > relaxation is now spreading to your scalp…. very, very relaxed. >Now…the > > relaxation is moving across your forehead…. That's it, just let go >and > > relax….. Your eyes are becoming heavy with relaxation…the muscles >around > > your eyes are becoming more and more relaxed. Your nose is >relaxed. And so > > are your cheeks….and ears. Your ears are very relaxed. You now >relax the > > muscles around your mouth. And now you relax your upper jaw…your >lower jaw… > > more and more…..relaxed. This pleasant relaxation is now >spreading to your > > throat. And now you relax your chest....your stomach...Your back >is > > becoming quite relaxed. You can feel your upper back relaxing…and >your > > middle back …and now your lower back. This wonderful relaxation >is now > > spreading down your hips and into your thighs. You relax your >thighs…deeply > > relaxed. You can now feel the relaxation in your knees….. and >lower > > legs……The relaxation is now spreading to your ankles and feet…… >Your whole > > body is very deeply relaxed….and you have let go of any and all > > tension…..Your mind is at peace…You have a very…..very tranquil >state of > > mind. You can appreciate this quietness of mind.….You allow your >mind to > > go deeper and deeper into tranquility…… > > > > I am now going to count backwards from ten all the way down to >one….and with > > each count you go deeper and deeper, becoming more relaxed…and >more and more > > peaceful….ten…….nine…..on the next count you allow yourself to >doubly > > relax…that's right….twice as relaxed as you are now….eight……very > > good……seven…letting go more and more…..six……deeper and >deeper…..five…..more > > relaxed…….four…..very….very tranquil and >peaceful…..three…….two…..and one. > > > > Now that the patient is in a deeply receptive state I enable the >healing > > music. It gently surrounds the patient and I notice the musical >medicine > > taking effect. The music continues for 6 minutes. I then gently >bring her > > out of the hypnotic state by counting from one to five…… > > > > " One….it is now time to begin coming back to your normal state of > > awareness…..two…I want you to now start thinking about where you > > are…..three….just start to think about moving your arms and > > legs……four…..think about opening your eyes….and five.. open your >eyes > > bringing with you all the healing energy you have just generated " . > > > > At this point my patients usually gently chide me for bringing >them back to > > their beta state. Most have a very pleasant therapeutic >experience with > > this modality. Actually they are usually not all the way back >simply > > through the counting from one to five and we chat for a bit till >she is > > ready to stand up. > > > > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > > > A tape you can do at home! > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > > > " " <attiliodalberto> > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in >Healing Music > > Mon, 26 May 2003 07:29:20 -0000 > > > > Thank you for your explaination Mike. To be honest, i'm still a > > little baffled with it all. However, i have just purchased Acutone > > by Lloyd and Pirog and am slowly plodding through it. Can you > > suggest anyother books or articles for lay people like me? > > > > Atti > > > > _______________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Actually my patients find it very easy to understand. The TCM is in the remedies which I tried to explain before. I would not recommend any other supplementation. I mentioned in the scenario that her doctor is addressing her diet and exercise needs. Mike >Aknchn >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Five Elements in Healing >Music >Thu, 29 May 2003 15:01:52 EDT > >Geez, what a lot of work to understand the music therapy system! >Did anyone mention to the patient that a combination of chromium >piccolinate >and essential fatty acids is critical supplementation for diabetes? A >little >alpha lipoic acid wouldn't hurt either. I have used this with appropriate >Chinese medicinals and had diabetic patients be totally off their >glucophage ( of >course the right diet helps too) with normal /in range sugar readings. >I mean if you are going to say you do and you are having >them sit and listen to music doesn't anything go? _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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