Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 The eight principles are excellent for herbal preparations but it has been my experience that acupuncture operates efficiently under either the 8 principles or the 5 elements. I have had much exposure to the 5 elements school and the acupuncturists I know that practice the five elements do have a high success rate. I think the orientation depends on what the practitioner is more comfortable with. In 1999 I presented a case study where I used the eight principles of the I Ching. It was published in “Engineering in Medicine and Biology”. As far as the development of a healing music system even the ancient Chinese d to the five elements. It is in the non-musical systems that zang fu becomes appropriate. Although one could use the five elements for diagnostic purposes in the healing music system, I have found that kinesiology provides for the best treatment plans. The treatment is highly individualized and I would, without further ado, go with the results of individual testing as opposed to a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing. I have made available some basic healing musics on my web site. And I am now trying to figure out a way to make the Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) healing music compositions available to interested practitioners. (I am open to ideas on how to accomplish this). So, perhaps in the next installment I can explain how the elements are strengthened and the importance of the creation cycle in healing music composition. One does not have to be a musical composer in order to practice this modality but I do want to reveal the underlying structure of the musical prescriptions. >Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto >Chinese Traditional Medicine >Chinese Traditional Medicine >Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian Zheng >Lunzhi in Healing Music >Fri, 16 May 2003 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) > > >So as I understand, your diagnostic techniques are based upon Five element >theory. I once attended a lecture of Five element theory being used along >and found it to be quite restricted, as did other TCM practitioners. > > > >Can you please present a full case study so I can better understand your >theory and see it illustrated in a clinical practise setting? > > > >Also do you have a comprehensive syndrome differentiation listing with >musical treatment strategy? > > > >Zai Jian > > > >Attilio > > >Mike Legge <mflegge wrote:Thank you Allilio for that question. >It gives me an opportunity to move >from the theoretical into practical application. > >When I said I needed to hear Gb I actually didn’t say either the tone or >the >scale. I used a kind of shorthand. The full description is – I needed to >hear a piece of music composed in the key of Gb. Hearing just the tone >would do nothing to rebalance my metal. I understand that some music >healers will use repetive tones in order to induce a hypnotic state and/or >rebalance a chakra or organ. I abandoned that approach in favor of >“bathing” the patient with real music. > >I did indeed listen to one of my pieces composed in the key of Gb. Now in >music there are 2 basic time signatures 3/4 time and 4/4 time. There are >other time signatures such as 6/8 or 2/4. In jazz there is a standard piece >called “Take Five” where the time signature is 5/4 time. It is interesting >to note that even when I tested professional jazz musicians for healing >music only the two basic time signatures showed up on the radar screen. >Further testing revealed that 3/4 time is yin and 4/4 time is yang. > >The new full description is – I needed to hear a piece of music composed in >the key of Gb with a 3/4 time signature. > > > > > " " > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > >[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Zangfu and the Bian Zheng > >Lunzhi in Healing Music > >Thu, 15 May 2003 09:36:16 -0000 > > > >So how do you use music in diagnostics as you said that you felt you > >had to hear a particular note, which i fully understand. But how is > >that then used in patients? Also from there, how do you use musical > >notes to provide treatment? > > > >Atti > > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Mike Legge " > > wrote: > > > Attilio has correctly anticipated the destination. We shall > >indeed end up > > > with the identification of the 6 yin tones and the 6 yang tones > >that have > > > direct relevance to the meridians/organs and can be used for > >diagnosis and > > > treatment. > > > > > > There are some transition models employed that bring in the time- > >honored > > > concepts of TCM while still dealing with the chakra model. Though > >the model > > > was complete as of the last writing the fun can now begin by > >applying some > > > of the concepts from the Yellow Emperor's Classic. > > > > > > From our last discussion we determined that each one of us > >resonates to > > > seven of the 12 keys. So what happens when a patient tests for a > >key that > > > is not part of their chakra system. This is exactly what happened > >during > > > the research and development phase of the healing music system. > >Using > > > myself as an example – I have seven chakra keys – Bb, C, D, Eb, F, > >G and A. > > > This morning before coming to work I knew I had to listen to Gb. > >Gb is not > > > one of my chakra keys. Obviously the Chakra model needs something. > > > > > > " Ancient Chinese music theory oriented tonality around a > >pentatonic scale > > > (Kung, Shang, Cheuh, Jyy and Yu)…. " Using the E pentatonic scale > >as an > > > example we get E, F#, G#, B and C# - Earth, Metal, Wood, Fire & > >Water. > > > Using enharmonics we can restate the tones as E, Gb, Ab, B and > >Db. (Please > > > note that we are using the tempered scale in these studies.) > > > > > > From the above we can now see that I needed to rebalance my Metal > >this > > > morning. These five keys are the five missing keys in the chakra > >model > > > particular to my energetic system. So, in the Chakra System there > >are seven > > > particular keys and in the Five Elements System there are five. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Five Elements Tonal System (FETS) > > > Energetic Imbalances Addressed Through: > > > Kinesiology, Healing Music & Deep Relaxation > > > http://www.swiftsite.com/musicmedicine > > > > > > A tape you can do at home! > > > http://www.my-hypnocise.com > > > > > > _______________ > > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > >_______________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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