TCM Interpretation of Activity (Additional Comments)

[Guest guest]

" Western MDs have known for years that insulin resistance (or

inability to properly deal with dietary carbohydrates and sugars_,

abnormal blood lipids, obesity, and hypertension increase the risk of

both heart disease and diabetes. Among progressive practitioners,

this combination of conditions is known as syndrome X. Syndrome X is

a diet-caused hormonal dyscrasia which mostly affects middle-aged

adults, espectially after meals. "

 

At first glance this may seem to be something that could only affect

humans until one realizes that some animal feeds contain ground-up

animals. Parts of other animals are being fed to animals, even to

herbivores. I don't know if this is what happened in the case of

Jackie's horse, but it is something to keep in mind when choosing

feed for animals. Even though Flaws and Sionneau are looking at this

as primarily, diet, there are other possibilities. Animals also

routinely are fed antibiotics. The primary reason for this is not to

prevent disease but to cause the animals to grow faster and bigger.

Also, there are various normonal additives given to some animals.

 

" Insulin resistance and the syndrome X it results in is primarily due

to eating a diet high in refined carbohydrates and simple sugars,

saturated fat (as found in beef), omega-6 fatty acids (found in

vegetable oils), and trans-fatty acids (found in margarine and foods

with partially hydrogenated oils). "

 

Omega-3s are needed in the diet, and some humans benefit from

supplementation via Evening Primrose Oil. BUT, there are other

Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) which also are needed.

 

One of the Omega-6 EFAs is the building block of prostaglandins

(PGs). There are " good " PGs, and there are " bad " PGs. The " good "

and " bad " are in quotes because sometimes the body needs the " bad "

PGs in order to survive, and sometimes too many of the " good " PGs can

cause problems.

 

When the body gets a load of Omega-6, PGs are going to be produced.

The thing is, just taking Omega-6 won't necessarily result in

more " good " than " bad " PGs being produced. Certain factors will tilt

a human body into making more " bad " PGs than " good " ones, and

making " bad " PGs when they are not needed and only cause problems.

These factors are advancing age, infection, insulin, and the

consumption of hydrogenated and partially-hydrogenated fats.

 

There are substances which will tilt the body toward making more of

the " good " PGs. These are the omega-3 fatty acids. I can't remember

how Jackie's horse reacted to flax in his diet. Flax is a plant

source of an omega-3. (Sorry, I can't remember the name of the book

I took the information from. My notes on the book are still packed

up.) Needs for particular EFAs will vary among individual humans.

Sometimes people need more omega-6s because they lack the building

blocks of PGs. Sometimes individuals need more or less omega-3s.

 

Quotes taken from The Treatment of Modern Western Medical Diseases

with by Bob Flaws and Philippe Sionneau, p. 216.

[Guest guest]

For information, it is believed in Europe that the fact of feeding

animal proteins to herbivores is if not the only one, an important

factor of the epidemic of " Mad Cow disease " that happened in Europe 2

years ago.

I have visited here in the USA a plant designed to make animal feed from

carcasses of dead chickens from industrial chiken farms - these were

carcasses dead of disease - not healthy chickens - and there can be a

lot of them when the chicken plague hits - so not only do you feed

animal proteins to herbivore (cows), you feed them animal protein made

from very sick animals.

Not sure this is very good recycling...

Frederic

 

victoria_dragon wrote:

 

> " Western MDs have known for years that insulin resistance (or

> inability to properly deal with dietary carbohydrates and sugars_,

> abnormal blood lipids, obesity, and hypertension increase the risk of

> both heart disease and diabetes. Among progressive practitioners,

> this combination of conditions is known as syndrome X. Syndrome X is

> a diet-caused hormonal dyscrasia which mostly affects middle-aged

> adults, espectially after meals. "

>

> At first glance this may seem to be something that could only affect

> humans until one realizes that some animal feeds contain ground-up

> animals. Parts of other animals are being fed to animals, even to

> herbivores. I don't know if this is what happened in the case of

> Jackie's horse, but it is something to keep in mind when choosing

> feed for animals. Even though Flaws and Sionneau are looking at this

> as primarily, diet, there are other possibilities. Animals also

> routinely are fed antibiotics. The primary reason for this is not to

> prevent disease but to cause the animals to grow faster and bigger.

> Also, there are various normonal additives given to some animals.

>

> " Insulin resistance and the syndrome X it results in is primarily due

> to eating a diet high in refined carbohydrates and simple sugars,

> saturated fat (as found in beef), omega-6 fatty acids (found in

> vegetable oils), and trans-fatty acids (found in margarine and foods

> with partially hydrogenated oils). "

>

> Omega-3s are needed in the diet, and some humans benefit from

> supplementation via Evening Primrose Oil. BUT, there are other

> Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) which also are needed.

>

> One of the Omega-6 EFAs is the building block of prostaglandins

> (PGs). There are " good " PGs, and there are " bad " PGs. The " good "

> and " bad " are in quotes because sometimes the body needs the " bad "

> PGs in order to survive, and sometimes too many of the " good " PGs can

> cause problems.

>

> When the body gets a load of Omega-6, PGs are going to be produced.

> The thing is, just taking Omega-6 won't necessarily result in

> more " good " than " bad " PGs being produced. Certain factors will tilt

> a human body into making more " bad " PGs than " good " ones, and

> making " bad " PGs when they are not needed and only cause problems.

> These factors are advancing age, infection, insulin, and the

> consumption of hydrogenated and partially-hydrogenated fats.

>

> There are substances which will tilt the body toward making more of

> the " good " PGs. These are the omega-3 fatty acids. I can't remember

> how Jackie's horse reacted to flax in his diet. Flax is a plant

> source of an omega-3. (Sorry, I can't remember the name of the book

> I took the information from. My notes on the book are still packed

> up.) Needs for particular EFAs will vary among individual humans.

> Sometimes people need more omega-6s because they lack the building

> blocks of PGs. Sometimes individuals need more or less omega-3s.

>

> Quotes taken from The Treatment of Modern Western Medical Diseases

> with by Bob Flaws and Philippe Sionneau, p. 216.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I have visited here in the USA a plant designed to make animal feed

from

> carcasses of dead chickens from industrial chiken farms - these were

> carcasses dead of disease - not healthy chickens - and there can be

a

> lot of them when the chicken plague hits - so not only do you feed

> animal proteins to herbivore (cows), you feed them animal protein

made

> from very sick animals.

> Not sure this is very good recycling...

 

It's not.

 

A sidebar to this is how animals are butchered for food. I remember

waching a program on TV about an epidemic of hyperthyroidism hitting

a small town. The cause turned out to be the way a company was

making hamburger. The company was careless about butchering and

including parts of the thyroid glands in the hamburger.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

> herbivores. I don't know if this is what happened in the case of

> Jackie's horse

 

Definately not!!<g>

 

Even though Flaws and Sionneau are looking at this

> as primarily, diet, there are other possibilities.

 

Yes, I think the sentence " inability to properly deal with dietary

carbohydrates and sugars " is the crucial one. The ability has changed above

and beyond any change in diet and lifestyle. Horses evolved to eat grass,

period. If they can't, there is a fundamental change in their metabolism.

 

With humans the picture is more complicated - with one or two huge spanners

in the works - like the high speed milling of flour which makes even

wholemeal bread shoot into your bloodstream in short order. Even so, if fit,

lean people on a balanced diet are falling ill, it isn't the lifestyle

that's the root of the problem, merely a possible means of control, if only

partial.

 

Animals also

> routinely are fed antibiotics.

 

And hormones. I think things like ubiquitous contamination of water by these

are more likely contenders, solely because our 'labrat' horses aren't

getting the disgusting feeds livestock do in the first place.

 

These are the omega-3 fatty acids. I can't remember

> how Jackie's horse reacted to flax in his diet. Flax is a plant

> source of an omega-3.

 

As is grass. My lad gets about 75g flax a day.

 

Interestingly in animal studies flax has been shown to prevent/delay the

onset of diabetes/insulin resistance:

 

Secoisolariciresinol diglucoside from flaxseed delays the development of

type 2 diabetes in Zucker rat.

 

Prasad K.

 

Department of Physiology, College of Medicine, University of Saskatchewan,

107 Wiggins Rd., Saskatoon, SK Canada, S7N 5ES.

 

Previous research has suggested that type 1 diabetes mellitus may be due to

oxidative stress. The role of oxidative stress in type 2 diabetes is not

known. Secoisolariciresinol diglucoside (SDG) antioxidant, obtained from

flaxseed, has been reported to prevent type 1 diabetes in a rat model.

However, its effectiveness in type 2 diabetes is not known. An investigation

was made of the effects of SDG isolated from flaxseed (40 mg/kg body wt,

orally in drinking water) on the development of diabetes in Zucker diabetic

fatty (ZDF)/Gmi-fa/fa female rats, a model of human type 2 diabetes, to

determine whether this type of diabetes is due to oxidative stress and

whether SDG could prevent the development of diabetes. A total of 10 Zucker

lean control and 26 ZDF rats were used in this study. Incidence of diabetes

was 100% in untreated and 20% in SDG-treated ZDF rats by the age of 72 days

(P <.01). The rats that did not develop diabetes by 72 days of age in the

SDG-treated group developed diabetes later on (age 72 to 99 days) except for

10% of the rats that did not develop diabetes for the duration of the study

(101 days of age), suggesting that SDG retarded the development of diabetes.

Diabetes was associated with an increase in oxidative stress as suggested by

an increase in serum malondialdehyde (P <.01). Also, diabetes was associated

with an increase in serum total cholesterol and triglycerides (P <.05) and

glycated hemoglobin A(1C) (P <.05). ZDF rats treated with SDG that did not

develop diabetes by 70 days of age had no increase in oxidative stress,

serum total cholesterol, and glycated hemoglobin. These results suggest that

type 2 diabetes is associated with an increase in oxidative stress and that

SDG is effective in retarding the development of diabetes.

 

PMID: 11433226 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

Thanks for these notes Victoria.

 

Jackie

[Guest guest]

> With humans the picture is more complicated - with one or two huge

spanners

> in the works - like the high speed milling of flour which makes even

> wholemeal bread shoot into your bloodstream in short order. Even

so, if fit,

> lean people on a balanced diet are falling ill, it isn't the

lifestyle

> that's the root of the problem, merely a possible means of control,

if only

> partial.

 

But, are those modern " balanced " diets as good as believed? As you

pointed out, even some wholewheat bread made from high speed milled

wheat hits the bloodstream too quickly.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

> But, are those modern " balanced " diets as good as believed? As you

> pointed out, even some wholewheat bread made from high speed milled

> wheat hits the bloodstream too quickly.

 

I believe healthy people should cope with it within what I call a balanced

diet - after all most fruit is stuffed full of sugar. I think there is a

poor level of nutrients in a lot of processed, convenience food so there is

trouble at both ends - a greater challenge to the body, and less of what is

needed to cope with that challenge (anti-oxidents etc) But processed,

convenience food is not what I call a balanced diet!

 

The mediterraneans for instance have a far better health profile - and their

diet contains plenty of white flour bread, pasta (which is coarse milled)

and fruit. I think they get more fresh food, more fish etc, and eat less

processed stuff - so they retain a better balance. Man should be able to

cope with natural carbs IMO.

 

As for the horses, many of them get nothing but natural fresh food anyway,

hay, grass, alfalfa. There is some reduction in mineral content, but we are

finding these horses need massive amounts of anti-oxidents to cope - more

than they would ever get from a natural diet - so it isn't as simple as a

lack.

 

Jackie