Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 The attributes of this 'prescription' are given at the web site http://myelwyn.topcities.com/honey_cinnamon.htm ... almost word for word. A bit far fetched some of it. Would be nice to actually find a scientific reference at PubMed for some of the " recent scientific research " that is supposed to show honey and cinnamon cures a host of diseases, cancer & etc.. Don't think I am knocking honey and cinnamon, I am just trying to get to the truth here. In the winter I often have a bed-time drink of warm soy milk with a spoonful of organic honey and a sprinkling of cinnamon. If I am feeling adventurous I also have a sprinkling of nutmeg. Sammy Tanveer Rauf [ammi_pk] 28 June 2003 08:21 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: late onset Tay-Sachs disease Dear Ray, ARTHRITIS : Take one part honey to two parts of luke warm water and add a small teaspoon of cinnamon powder, make a paste and massage it on the itching part of the body slowly. It is noticed that the pain recedes within a minute or two. Or arthritis paients may daily, morning and night take one cup of hot water with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinamon powder. If drunk regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research done at the Coppen hagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon Honey and half teaspoon cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week out of the 200 people so treated practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain and within a month, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis started walking without pain. regards, Tanveer Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote: ooops nutrition not nutition! Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote:Dear Penel, Problems just do not happen, there is a cause for everything. When we eliminate poor nutrition as a possible problem then we eliminate finding preventitives to possible problems. If we look at other third world countries and the problems they have with their birth defects what is the first thing we conclude? What do we send them first of all? More nutitious food, right, why? When you see certain diseases hampering certain groups of people what is the first thing that is checked on? Their food intake, why? Because we know that nutition is the number one problem in the defects of child birth. Why do we watch what we eat? because we know the problems which come from lack of a good diet of nutitious food. Simple test to perform, look at the history of the world as far as health is concerned. Have we eliminated most problems through better diets and healthier food or have we gotten worse from the food we eat. Now look at today and the problems we are having in health, why? Our food is being tampered with horrendously. Ingredients that effect our brain, such as partially hygrogenated soy bean and cotton seed oil. We know beef is a problem for those who have cancer, but in the hospitals what are they feeding cancer patients? BEEF. The list goes on and on all linked to our eating habits. It isn't like we don't have enough information of the problems bad foods have on us. Caffeine, there is enough information on caffeine to certainly make you think, you know their might be a possible problem in using caffeine. This is why people go to doctors and get an exam and findout the doctor can't find anything wrong with the them because, they find no problem with caffeine and so don't recognise the symptoms of the person as related to the use of caffeine. I would suggest to you to get two of the best books I have found on explaining our problems in health. Everything is nutrition related, good health or, bad health. These two books are, Jethro Kloss, BACK TO EDEN, which is the Bible of all health books, and Dr. Sheldon C. deal, NEW LIFE THROUGH NUTRITION. There is another doctor of very high quality and information, that is Dr. Christopher. I follow these three very closely in rules of engagement with the enemy of my body, and that is bad health and I am very healthy and never get sick or even a bad day. Why? because, I watch my diet and foods I take in to my body. If I step outside of that intake which occassionally I do, I feel the results, because my immune system is extremely strong I am able to get over it quickly. Doctoring isn't magic it is using common sense and research on your own experiment on your own and you will find that what I am saying is true, not because I say it is true but, the results say it is true. I have worked with many people who the doctors say would never be able to recover from their problem, guess what? They now are in very good health not because of me but, because of experimenting with what I have taught them about getting their health back. You of course are free to believe what you want and what doctors say, but lets look at their results. There has never been a cure in any virus related disease. All the money that has gone into cancer research over the years has not improved or moved us closer to an eradication of any of this disease or, any other diseases only stronger strains of it. Drugs have their place but not before every other effort has been taken to get rid of the problem. And finally, I don't know what your beliefs are, but mine are as follows, I believe our body is a temple to preserve through our sojourn on earth. I believe it was given for our benefit to enjoy good health while we are here. Anytime we abuse that we have a consequence to pay, sickness, disease, and everything else that comes from years of abuse to our bodies. Just go to the carecenters and see the results of abusive actions to our bodies. I take care of people in a carecenter and see the problem everyday. But your free to believe what you want, isn't America great because of that freedom. Sincerely Ray P.S. I am sorry I have one other thing to say about this problem we are talking about Tay-Sachs. When children are born to a drug mom, what happens to the child? Born in addiction right? So how can we say that a mothers diet before she becomes pregnant hasn't been so deleted of nutrients to affect the child? or how about the father who has abused his body changing his chromosones to who knows what through his abuse of incorrect eating habits. Remember, sickness comes from a brokendown immune system and when a baby is conceived and our systems are not up to par, what affect does it have on our children being born? Obviously a lot because when the doctors go to these third world countries what is the first thing they look at? FOOD INTAKE! WHY? Sincerely Ray. Penel Eynde LeGrand <hyldemoer wrote: > I think I told you that I felt that in order > to eradicate this type of disease is to > concentrate more on the mother and her intake > of nutrients so the baby can get the needed > nutrition while inside of her. > > Anytime a baby is born with a disease it > came from somewhere and Ray, Prenatal nutrition has not shown to be a factor in a child developing or not developing Tay-Sacks. Tay-Sacks is currently thought of as a genetically inherited disorder. Until medicine can alter DNA, the only way to eradicate a genetic disorder is to test both the mother AND/OR father to see if both are carriers and if so, suggest they not mate to produce offspring. In the case of Tay-Sacks, if BOTH the mother and the father carry the gene, the offspring has a % to inherit the disorder. I never in my wildest dreams expected to cure my client's Tay-Sachs any more than I could change someone's brown eyes to blue. What I did expect to do is help a client find a way to a balance of chi that could be worked with inorder to find a quality of life no matter what way, shape or length of life it might be. What I was looking for on this list was, if anyone had experience with treating someone with Adult Onset Tay-Sachs, what any special things I should look for that would make diagnosis and treatment of this client by TCM methods not the same as with someone without Tay-Sachs. Tay-Sacks is not something that was been done to the child. It is what the child IS by the genetic design of both parents. If one has an adventure by the design of their genetic code, that is the material we have for working with. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share, Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Sammy, I had no other intension than to share what i learnt and how people are getting beneifits from this and improving their health. We all learn from each other and with each other. where ever and what ever i learn something good for humanity I share and pass it on. regards, Tanveer ga.bates wrote: The attributes of this 'prescription' are given at the web site http://myelwyn.topcities.com/honey_cinnamon.htm ... almost word for word. A bit far fetched some of it. Would be nice to actually find a scientific reference at PubMed for some of the " recent scientific research " that is supposed to show honey and cinnamon cures a host of diseases, cancer & etc.. Don't think I am knocking honey and cinnamon, I am just trying to get to the truth here. In the winter I often have a bed-time drink of warm soy milk with a spoonful of organic honey and a sprinkling of cinnamon. If I am feeling adventurous I also have a sprinkling of nutmeg. Sammy Tanveer Rauf [ammi_pk] 28 June 2003 08:21 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: late onset Tay-Sachs disease Dear Ray, ARTHRITIS : Take one part honey to two parts of luke warm water and add a small teaspoon of cinnamon powder, make a paste and massage it on the itching part of the body slowly. It is noticed that the pain recedes within a minute or two. Or arthritis paients may daily, morning and night take one cup of hot water with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinamon powder. If drunk regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research done at the Coppen hagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon Honey and half teaspoon cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week out of the 200 people so treated practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain and within a month, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis started walking without pain. regards, Tanveer Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote: ooops nutrition not nutition! Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote:Dear Penel, Problems just do not happen, there is a cause for everything. When we eliminate poor nutrition as a possible problem then we eliminate finding preventitives to possible problems. If we look at other third world countries and the problems they have with their birth defects what is the first thing we conclude? What do we send them first of all? More nutitious food, right, why? When you see certain diseases hampering certain groups of people what is the first thing that is checked on? Their food intake, why? Because we know that nutition is the number one problem in the defects of child birth. Why do we watch what we eat? because we know the problems which come from lack of a good diet of nutitious food. Simple test to perform, look at the history of the world as far as health is concerned. Have we eliminated most problems through better diets and healthier food or have we gotten worse from the food we eat. Now look at today and the problems we are having in health, why? Our food is being tampered with horrendously. Ingredients that effect our brain, such as partially hygrogenated soy bean and cotton seed oil. We know beef is a problem for those who have cancer, but in the hospitals what are they feeding cancer patients? BEEF. The list goes on and on all linked to our eating habits. It isn't like we don't have enough information of the problems bad foods have on us. Caffeine, there is enough information on caffeine to certainly make you think, you know their might be a possible problem in using caffeine. This is why people go to doctors and get an exam and findout the doctor can't find anything wrong with the them because, they find no problem with caffeine and so don't recognise the symptoms of the person as related to the use of caffeine. I would suggest to you to get two of the best books I have found on explaining our problems in health. Everything is nutrition related, good health or, bad health. These two books are, Jethro Kloss, BACK TO EDEN, which is the Bible of all health books, and Dr. Sheldon C. deal, NEW LIFE THROUGH NUTRITION. There is another doctor of very high quality and information, that is Dr. Christopher. I follow these three very closely in rules of engagement with the enemy of my body, and that is bad health and I am very healthy and never get sick or even a bad day. Why? because, I watch my diet and foods I take in to my body. If I step outside of that intake which occassionally I do, I feel the results, because my immune system is extremely strong I am able to get over it quickly. Doctoring isn't magic it is using common sense and research on your own experiment on your own and you will find that what I am saying is true, not because I say it is true but, the results say it is true. I have worked with many people who the doctors say would never be able to recover from their problem, guess what? They now are in very good health not because of me but, because of experimenting with what I have taught them about getting their health back. You of course are free to believe what you want and what doctors say, but lets look at their results. There has never been a cure in any virus related disease. All the money that has gone into cancer research over the years has not improved or moved us closer to an eradication of any of this disease or, any other diseases only stronger strains of it. Drugs have their place but not before every other effort has been taken to get rid of the problem. And finally, I don't know what your beliefs are, but mine are as follows, I believe our body is a temple to preserve through our sojourn on earth. I believe it was given for our benefit to enjoy good health while we are here. Anytime we abuse that we have a consequence to pay, sickness, disease, and everything else that comes from years of abuse to our bodies. Just go to the carecenters and see the results of abusive actions to our bodies. I take care of people in a carecenter and see the problem everyday. But your free to believe what you want, isn't America great because of that freedom. Sincerely Ray P.S. I am sorry I have one other thing to say about this problem we are talking about Tay-Sachs. When children are born to a drug mom, what happens to the child? Born in addiction right? So how can we say that a mothers diet before she becomes pregnant hasn't been so deleted of nutrients to affect the child? or how about the father who has abused his body changing his chromosones to who knows what through his abuse of incorrect eating habits. Remember, sickness comes from a brokendown immune system and when a baby is conceived and our systems are not up to par, what affect does it have on our children being born? Obviously a lot because when the doctors go to these third world countries what is the first thing they look at? FOOD INTAKE! WHY? Sincerely Ray. Penel Eynde LeGrand <hyldemoer wrote: > I think I told you that I felt that in order > to eradicate this type of disease is to > concentrate more on the mother and her intake > of nutrients so the baby can get the needed > nutrition while inside of her. > > Anytime a baby is born with a disease it > came from somewhere and Ray, Prenatal nutrition has not shown to be a factor in a child developing or not developing Tay-Sacks. Tay-Sacks is currently thought of as a genetically inherited disorder. Until medicine can alter DNA, the only way to eradicate a genetic disorder is to test both the mother AND/OR father to see if both are carriers and if so, suggest they not mate to produce offspring. In the case of Tay-Sacks, if BOTH the mother and the father carry the gene, the offspring has a % to inherit the disorder. I never in my wildest dreams expected to cure my client's Tay-Sachs any more than I could change someone's brown eyes to blue. What I did expect to do is help a client find a way to a balance of chi that could be worked with inorder to find a quality of life no matter what way, shape or length of life it might be. What I was looking for on this list was, if anyone had experience with treating someone with Adult Onset Tay-Sachs, what any special things I should look for that would make diagnosis and treatment of this client by TCM methods not the same as with someone without Tay-Sachs. Tay-Sacks is not something that was been done to the child. It is what the child IS by the genetic design of both parents. If one has an adventure by the design of their genetic code, that is the material we have for working with. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share, Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Hi Tanveer, I have learnt to quote my sources because it saves time and trouble all round. Since you neglected to say where the information came from, there are people, naive perhaps, who might think you had discovered this information all by yourself. There are others, cynical perhaps, who might think you are trying to claim credit for an idea that is not yours. By giving a reference you set yourself free of this trap. By giving a reference, information you bring along to the discussion no longer stands on its own, like an island as it were: it can be traced and if needs be verified by comparing to other sources. This helps us all become more objective and rational in our search for knowledge. By giving a reference to information you bring along, you give credit to the person who owns that copyrighted text (their text in fact): you acknowledge their effort and intellectual property. It is only fair to the original author to put their name to the material they wrote. Quoting copyrighted material is legal if it is done for educational purposes. Stealing the words of another person is technically a criminal act, and may get the owner of the group in trouble if the author finds out it is being reproduced without their permission. These are the reasons why I always quote my sources ;-) Sammy. Tanveer Rauf [ammi_pk] 28 June 2003 21:16 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Honey and cinnamon (+nutmeg) Dear Sammy, I had no other intension than to share what i learnt and how people are getting beneifits from this and improving their health. We all learn from each other and with each other. where ever and what ever i learn something good for humanity I share and pass it on. regards, Tanveer ga.bates wrote: The attributes of this 'prescription' are given at the web site http://myelwyn.topcities.com/honey_cinnamon.htm ... almost word for word. A bit far fetched some of it. Would be nice to actually find a scientific reference at PubMed for some of the " recent scientific research " that is supposed to show honey and cinnamon cures a host of diseases, cancer & etc.. Don't think I am knocking honey and cinnamon, I am just trying to get to the truth here. In the winter I often have a bed-time drink of warm soy milk with a spoonful of organic honey and a sprinkling of cinnamon. If I am feeling adventurous I also have a sprinkling of nutmeg. Sammy Tanveer Rauf [ammi_pk] 28 June 2003 08:21 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: late onset Tay-Sachs disease Dear Ray, ARTHRITIS : Take one part honey to two parts of luke warm water and add a small teaspoon of cinnamon powder, make a paste and massage it on the itching part of the body slowly. It is noticed that the pain recedes within a minute or two. Or arthritis paients may daily, morning and night take one cup of hot water with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinamon powder. If drunk regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research done at the Coppen hagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon Honey and half teaspoon cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week out of the 200 people so treated practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain and within a month, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis started walking without pain. regards, Tanveer Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote: ooops nutrition not nutition! Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote:Dear Penel, Problems just do not happen, there is a cause for everything. When we eliminate poor nutrition as a possible problem then we eliminate finding preventitives to possible problems. If we look at other third world countries and the problems they have with their birth defects what is the first thing we conclude? What do we send them first of all? More nutitious food, right, why? When you see certain diseases hampering certain groups of people what is the first thing that is checked on? Their food intake, why? Because we know that nutition is the number one problem in the defects of child birth. Why do we watch what we eat? because we know the problems which come from lack of a good diet of nutitious food. Simple test to perform, look at the history of the world as far as health is concerned. Have we eliminated most problems through better diets and healthier food or have we gotten worse from the food we eat. Now look at today and the problems we are having in health, why? Our food is being tampered with horrendously. Ingredients that effect our brain, such as partially hygrogenated soy bean and cotton seed oil. We know beef is a problem for those who have cancer, but in the hospitals what are they feeding cancer patients? BEEF. The list goes on and on all linked to our eating habits. It isn't like we don't have enough information of the problems bad foods have on us. Caffeine, there is enough information on caffeine to certainly make you think, you know their might be a possible problem in using caffeine. This is why people go to doctors and get an exam and findout the doctor can't find anything wrong with the them because, they find no problem with caffeine and so don't recognise the symptoms of the person as related to the use of caffeine. I would suggest to you to get two of the best books I have found on explaining our problems in health. Everything is nutrition related, good health or, bad health. These two books are, Jethro Kloss, BACK TO EDEN, which is the Bible of all health books, and Dr. Sheldon C. deal, NEW LIFE THROUGH NUTRITION. There is another doctor of very high quality and information, that is Dr. Christopher. I follow these three very closely in rules of engagement with the enemy of my body, and that is bad health and I am very healthy and never get sick or even a bad day. Why? because, I watch my diet and foods I take in to my body. If I step outside of that intake which occassionally I do, I feel the results, because my immune system is extremely strong I am able to get over it quickly. Doctoring isn't magic it is using common sense and research on your own experiment on your own and you will find that what I am saying is true, not because I say it is true but, the results say it is true. I have worked with many people who the doctors say would never be able to recover from their problem, guess what? They now are in very good health not because of me but, because of experimenting with what I have taught them about getting their health back. You of course are free to believe what you want and what doctors say, but lets look at their results. There has never been a cure in any virus related disease. All the money that has gone into cancer research over the years has not improved or moved us closer to an eradication of any of this disease or, any other diseases only stronger strains of it. Drugs have their place but not before every other effort has been taken to get rid of the problem. And finally, I don't know what your beliefs are, but mine are as follows, I believe our body is a temple to preserve through our sojourn on earth. I believe it was given for our benefit to enjoy good health while we are here. Anytime we abuse that we have a consequence to pay, sickness, disease, and everything else that comes from years of abuse to our bodies. Just go to the carecenters and see the results of abusive actions to our bodies. I take care of people in a carecenter and see the problem everyday. But your free to believe what you want, isn't America great because of that freedom. Sincerely Ray P.S. I am sorry I have one other thing to say about this problem we are talking about Tay-Sachs. When children are born to a drug mom, what happens to the child? Born in addiction right? So how can we say that a mothers diet before she becomes pregnant hasn't been so deleted of nutrients to affect the child? or how about the father who has abused his body changing his chromosones to who knows what through his abuse of incorrect eating habits. Remember, sickness comes from a brokendown immune system and when a baby is conceived and our systems are not up to par, what affect does it have on our children being born? Obviously a lot because when the doctors go to these third world countries what is the first thing they look at? FOOD INTAKE! WHY? Sincerely Ray. Penel Eynde LeGrand <hyldemoer wrote: > I think I told you that I felt that in order > to eradicate this type of disease is to > concentrate more on the mother and her intake > of nutrients so the baby can get the needed > nutrition while inside of her. > > Anytime a baby is born with a disease it > came from somewhere and Ray, Prenatal nutrition has not shown to be a factor in a child developing or not developing Tay-Sacks. Tay-Sacks is currently thought of as a genetically inherited disorder. Until medicine can alter DNA, the only way to eradicate a genetic disorder is to test both the mother AND/OR father to see if both are carriers and if so, suggest they not mate to produce offspring. In the case of Tay-Sacks, if BOTH the mother and the father carry the gene, the offspring has a % to inherit the disorder. I never in my wildest dreams expected to cure my client's Tay-Sachs any more than I could change someone's brown eyes to blue. What I did expect to do is help a client find a way to a balance of chi that could be worked with inorder to find a quality of life no matter what way, shape or length of life it might be. What I was looking for on this list was, if anyone had experience with treating someone with Adult Onset Tay-Sachs, what any special things I should look for that would make diagnosis and treatment of this client by TCM methods not the same as with someone without Tay-Sachs. Tay-Sacks is not something that was been done to the child. It is what the child IS by the genetic design of both parents. If one has an adventure by the design of their genetic code, that is the material we have for working with. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share, Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Hi Sammy, thank you for the kind note .I forgot to thank you in my previous email that for the original site you forwarded to me.Actually i didnot see that site before, I only read it some where and tried this recipe and it really worked. so I religiously passed it on to others to get benefit from it. how ever I am thankful to you for understanding. And in future too I would appreciate if you forward me more of such sourses ans sites. Now im 53 years old and i feel my duty to help humanity in any way i can, as much as i can and where ever i can. wish you long healthy happy life---amen warm regards, Tanveer ga.bates wrote: Hi Tanveer, I have learnt to quote my sources because it saves time and trouble all round. Since you neglected to say where the information came from, there are people, naive perhaps, who might think you had discovered this information all by yourself. There are others, cynical perhaps, who might think you are trying to claim credit for an idea that is not yours. By giving a reference you set yourself free of this trap. By giving a reference, information you bring along to the discussion no longer stands on its own, like an island as it were: it can be traced and if needs be verified by comparing to other sources. This helps us all become more objective and rational in our search for knowledge. By giving a reference to information you bring along, you give credit to the person who owns that copyrighted text (their text in fact): you acknowledge their effort and intellectual property. It is only fair to the original author to put their name to the material they wrote. Quoting copyrighted material is legal if it is done for educational purposes. Stealing the words of another person is technically a criminal act, and may get the owner of the group in trouble if the author finds out it is being reproduced without their permission. These are the reasons why I always quote my sources ;-) Sammy. Tanveer Rauf [ammi_pk] 28 June 2003 21:16 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Honey and cinnamon (+nutmeg) Dear Sammy, I had no other intension than to share what i learnt and how people are getting beneifits from this and improving their health. We all learn from each other and with each other. where ever and what ever i learn something good for humanity I share and pass it on. regards, Tanveer ga.bates wrote: The attributes of this 'prescription' are given at the web site http://myelwyn.topcities.com/honey_cinnamon.htm ... almost word for word. A bit far fetched some of it. Would be nice to actually find a scientific reference at PubMed for some of the " recent scientific research " that is supposed to show honey and cinnamon cures a host of diseases, cancer & etc.. Don't think I am knocking honey and cinnamon, I am just trying to get to the truth here. In the winter I often have a bed-time drink of warm soy milk with a spoonful of organic honey and a sprinkling of cinnamon. If I am feeling adventurous I also have a sprinkling of nutmeg. Sammy Tanveer Rauf [ammi_pk] 28 June 2003 08:21 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: late onset Tay-Sachs disease Dear Ray, ARTHRITIS : Take one part honey to two parts of luke warm water and add a small teaspoon of cinnamon powder, make a paste and massage it on the itching part of the body slowly. It is noticed that the pain recedes within a minute or two. Or arthritis paients may daily, morning and night take one cup of hot water with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinamon powder. If drunk regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research done at the Coppen hagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon Honey and half teaspoon cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week out of the 200 people so treated practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain and within a month, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis started walking without pain. regards, Tanveer Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote: ooops nutrition not nutition! Ray Zielinski <rmk_12z wrote:Dear Penel, Problems just do not happen, there is a cause for everything. When we eliminate poor nutrition as a possible problem then we eliminate finding preventitives to possible problems. If we look at other third world countries and the problems they have with their birth defects what is the first thing we conclude? What do we send them first of all? More nutitious food, right, why? When you see certain diseases hampering certain groups of people what is the first thing that is checked on? Their food intake, why? Because we know that nutition is the number one problem in the defects of child birth. Why do we watch what we eat? because we know the problems which come from lack of a good diet of nutitious food. Simple test to perform, look at the history of the world as far as health is concerned. Have we eliminated most problems through better diets and healthier food or have we gotten worse from the food we eat. Now look at today and the problems we are having in health, why? Our food is being tampered with horrendously. Ingredients that effect our brain, such as partially hygrogenated soy bean and cotton seed oil. We know beef is a problem for those who have cancer, but in the hospitals what are they feeding cancer patients? BEEF. The list goes on and on all linked to our eating habits. It isn't like we don't have enough information of the problems bad foods have on us. Caffeine, there is enough information on caffeine to certainly make you think, you know their might be a possible problem in using caffeine. This is why people go to doctors and get an exam and findout the doctor can't find anything wrong with the them because, they find no problem with caffeine and so don't recognise the symptoms of the person as related to the use of caffeine. I would suggest to you to get two of the best books I have found on explaining our problems in health. Everything is nutrition related, good health or, bad health. These two books are, Jethro Kloss, BACK TO EDEN, which is the Bible of all health books, and Dr. Sheldon C. deal, NEW LIFE THROUGH NUTRITION. There is another doctor of very high quality and information, that is Dr. Christopher. I follow these three very closely in rules of engagement with the enemy of my body, and that is bad health and I am very healthy and never get sick or even a bad day. Why? because, I watch my diet and foods I take in to my body. If I step outside of that intake which occassionally I do, I feel the results, because my immune system is extremely strong I am able to get over it quickly. Doctoring isn't magic it is using common sense and research on your own experiment on your own and you will find that what I am saying is true, not because I say it is true but, the results say it is true. I have worked with many people who the doctors say would never be able to recover from their problem, guess what? They now are in very good health not because of me but, because of experimenting with what I have taught them about getting their health back. You of course are free to believe what you want and what doctors say, but lets look at their results. There has never been a cure in any virus related disease. All the money that has gone into cancer research over the years has not improved or moved us closer to an eradication of any of this disease or, any other diseases only stronger strains of it. Drugs have their place but not before every other effort has been taken to get rid of the problem. And finally, I don't know what your beliefs are, but mine are as follows, I believe our body is a temple to preserve through our sojourn on earth. I believe it was given for our benefit to enjoy good health while we are here. Anytime we abuse that we have a consequence to pay, sickness, disease, and everything else that comes from years of abuse to our bodies. Just go to the carecenters and see the results of abusive actions to our bodies. I take care of people in a carecenter and see the problem everyday. But your free to believe what you want, isn't America great because of that freedom. Sincerely Ray P.S. I am sorry I have one other thing to say about this problem we are talking about Tay-Sachs. When children are born to a drug mom, what happens to the child? Born in addiction right? So how can we say that a mothers diet before she becomes pregnant hasn't been so deleted of nutrients to affect the child? or how about the father who has abused his body changing his chromosones to who knows what through his abuse of incorrect eating habits. Remember, sickness comes from a brokendown immune system and when a baby is conceived and our systems are not up to par, what affect does it have on our children being born? Obviously a lot because when the doctors go to these third world countries what is the first thing they look at? FOOD INTAKE! WHY? Sincerely Ray. Penel Eynde LeGrand <hyldemoer wrote: > I think I told you that I felt that in order > to eradicate this type of disease is to > concentrate more on the mother and her intake > of nutrients so the baby can get the needed > nutrition while inside of her. > > Anytime a baby is born with a disease it > came from somewhere and Ray, Prenatal nutrition has not shown to be a factor in a child developing or not developing Tay-Sacks. Tay-Sacks is currently thought of as a genetically inherited disorder. Until medicine can alter DNA, the only way to eradicate a genetic disorder is to test both the mother AND/OR father to see if both are carriers and if so, suggest they not mate to produce offspring. In the case of Tay-Sacks, if BOTH the mother and the father carry the gene, the offspring has a % to inherit the disorder. I never in my wildest dreams expected to cure my client's Tay-Sachs any more than I could change someone's brown eyes to blue. What I did expect to do is help a client find a way to a balance of chi that could be worked with inorder to find a quality of life no matter what way, shape or length of life it might be. What I was looking for on this list was, if anyone had experience with treating someone with Adult Onset Tay-Sachs, what any special things I should look for that would make diagnosis and treatment of this client by TCM methods not the same as with someone without Tay-Sachs. Tay-Sacks is not something that was been done to the child. It is what the child IS by the genetic design of both parents. If one has an adventure by the design of their genetic code, that is the material we have for working with. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share, Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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