On migraines...

[Guest guest]

John --

 

>>I have a friend who suffered from migraines. His father was a friend

of Mann, so if he had a migraine and found himself close enough to

Mann's office he would pop in for what was a very quick session. Mann

would wield a rather long needle, insert it, immediately withdraw it,

and enquire if the headache had gone. On most occasions it had. Now

and again the treatment didn't work, and Mann's response was that he

could do no more, and advised my friend to take a couple of aspirin. <<

 

Excuse me for jumping in, especially since it's not the original topic

you were discussing, but your friend's problem hit home. You say he

" suffered from migraines " (past tense), so I don't know if he still

has this problem. If he does, I'd like to share my experience with

you. For 30 years now (I'm 43) I've suffered from cluster migraines --

several SEVERE headaches per day & night, for several days, and then

nothing for 6-8 months, or once even up to a year ... and then they

come back.

 

My husband suffers from rheumatoid arthritis and he started seeing a

Chinese acupuncturist a couple months ago. I have so many annoying

issues, I followed him. This doctor started treating me for the

headaches and sinus problems and I was doing great, but the best thing

I've gotten from him so far is the accupressure trick he taught me to

use right at the onset of a migraine. (I used to reach for the Imitrex

nasal spray.) I rub my temples in a circular motion, for about 20

seconds, and then, one at a time, I squeeze the flesh in between the

thumb and the index finger, firmly, counting to 30, and then the other

hand. By the time I'm squeezing one hand, I already a sense of relief

washing over me.

 

It's amazing to me to be able to ward off a migraine with a simple

procedure ... and to think of all the years of suffering such intense

pain ... feeling like a blade of ice steel cutting through my head.

ARGH! I hope I never again have to go through that. Perhaps your

friend would be willing to try this procedure.

 

Betina

 

BETINA FRISONE

Spanish Translation/Interpreting Services

(USA) 847/632-1252 -- Fax: 847/255-5873

[Guest guest]

HI

The best remedy for migranes is very simple and easy and costs not a single

penny. WHEN SOME ONE SUFFERS FROM MIGRANE THE he/she should take 3 towels and

dip them in ice cold water. wring onw towel and wrap around head like a bandage

and not like a cap. just as measure the circumference. dont cover the head just

wrap like a bandage. 2nd towel around the neck and 3 rd towel around both

feet.it wont take more than 10 mintes to didmish the acute killing migrane.

wish you all health and happiness,

tanveer

 

and soak Betina Frisone <betinafrisone wrote:

 

John --

 

>>I have a friend who suffered from migraines. His father was a friend

of Mann, so if he had a migraine and found himself close enough to

Mann's office he would pop in for what was a very quick session. Mann

would wield a rather long needle, insert it, immediately withdraw it,

and enquire if the headache had gone. On most occasions it had. Now

and again the treatment didn't work, and Mann's response was that he

could do no more, and advised my friend to take a couple of aspirin. <<

 

Excuse me for jumping in, especially since it's not the original topic

you were discussing, but your friend's problem hit home. You say he

" suffered from migraines " (past tense), so I don't know if he still

has this problem. If he does, I'd like to share my experience with

you. For 30 years now (I'm 43) I've suffered from cluster migraines --

several SEVERE headaches per day & night, for several days, and then

nothing for 6-8 months, or once even up to a year ... and then they

come back.

 

My husband suffers from rheumatoid arthritis and he started seeing a

Chinese acupuncturist a couple months ago. I have so many annoying

issues, I followed him. This doctor started treating me for the

headaches and sinus problems and I was doing great, but the best thing

I've gotten from him so far is the accupressure trick he taught me to

use right at the onset of a migraine. (I used to reach for the Imitrex

nasal spray.) I rub my temples in a circular motion, for about 20

seconds, and then, one at a time, I squeeze the flesh in between the

thumb and the index finger, firmly, counting to 30, and then the other

hand. By the time I'm squeezing one hand, I already a sense of relief

washing over me.

 

It's amazing to me to be able to ward off a migraine with a simple

procedure ... and to think of all the years of suffering such intense

pain ... feeling like a blade of ice steel cutting through my head.

ARGH! I hope I never again have to go through that. Perhaps your

friend would be willing to try this procedure.

 

Betina

 

BETINA FRISONE

Spanish Translation/Interpreting Services

(USA) 847/632-1252 -- Fax: 847/255-5873

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> The best remedy for migranes is very simple and easy and costs not

a single penny. WHEN SOME ONE SUFFERS FROM MIGRANE THE he/she should

take 3 towels and dip them in ice cold water. wring onw towel and

wrap around head like a bandage and not like a cap. just as measure

the circumference. dont cover the head just wrap like a bandage. 2nd

towel around the neck and 3 rd towel around both feet.it wont take

more than 10 mintes to didmish the acute killing migrane.

> wish you all health and happiness,

 

This particular treatment will worsen migraines due to Wind Cold

invasion. I believe it will work when the Root is Wind Heat and

maybe for some other Roots. (Liver Yang Rising?)

 

In my particular case, I did acupressure and applied heat to Small

Intestine 3 (on the hand) and Bladder 23 just below the waist on the

back. Sometimes the points that are best for knocking out a headache

aren't even near the head. Weird, but it works that way.

 

Some migraine sufferers notice that one hand (or foot) gets colder

than the other prior to an attack on that side of the body. If the

hand is warmed up in these cases, the migraine can be prevented. Put

a glove on or immerse the hand in warm water or wrap a heating pad

around it.

 

The migraines preceded by one hand or foot getting colder than the

other probably are due to Wind Cold invading. They were in my case.

[Guest guest]

many people who suffered from migrane tried this method and got releived.

 

victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:> The best remedy for

migranes is very simple and easy and costs not

a single penny. WHEN SOME ONE SUFFERS FROM MIGRANE THE he/she should

take 3 towels and dip them in ice cold water. wring onw towel and

wrap around head like a bandage and not like a cap. just as measure

the circumference. dont cover the head just wrap like a bandage. 2nd

towel around the neck and 3 rd towel around both feet.it wont take

more than 10 mintes to didmish the acute killing migrane.

> wish you all health and happiness,

 

This particular treatment will worsen migraines due to Wind Cold

invasion. I believe it will work when the Root is Wind Heat and

maybe for some other Roots. (Liver Yang Rising?)

 

In my particular case, I did acupressure and applied heat to Small

Intestine 3 (on the hand) and Bladder 23 just below the waist on the

back. Sometimes the points that are best for knocking out a headache

aren't even near the head. Weird, but it works that way.

 

Some migraine sufferers notice that one hand (or foot) gets colder

than the other prior to an attack on that side of the body. If the

hand is warmed up in these cases, the migraine can be prevented. Put

a glove on or immerse the hand in warm water or wrap a heating pad

around it.

 

The migraines preceded by one hand or foot getting colder than the

other probably are due to Wind Cold invading. They were in my case.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> many people who suffered from migrane tried this method and got

releived.

>

> WHEN SOME ONE SUFFERS FROM MIGRANE THE he/she should

> take 3 towels and dip them in ice cold water. wring onw towel and

> wrap around head like a bandage and not like a cap. just as measure

> the circumference. dont cover the head just wrap like a bandage.

2nd

> towel around the neck and 3 rd towel around both feet.it wont take

> more than 10 mintes to didmish the acute killing migrane.

 

The operative word here is " many " . It does wonders for some migraine

sufferers but can make others sicker.

 

Remember the TCM concept of treating Hot and Cold imbalances with the

opposite. Cool those who are too Hot; warm those who are too Cold.

If you add heat to a person who is too Hot you make them sicker and

increase the symptoms and signs of Heat imbalance. Likewise if you

cool a person who already is too Cold even more, you make that person

sicker.

 

Some people are unusually sensitive to environmental conditions in

general and to specific environment condiitons ( " Pernicious Evils) in

particular. Any extremes in weather and sudden sharp changes in

weather tend to bother me, but I'm particularly vulnerable to Cold

and Wind.

 

What causes a person to be so sensitive to Exterior Pernious Evils

(weather conditions, etc.)? The number one cause is weak Protective

Qi. Protective Qi circulates at the surface of the body and gives

people protection against Exterior Pernicious Evils. The pores are

opening and closing as they should and some other things are going on

that gives the person resistence. If Protective Qi is Deficient, the

person is very vulnerable to invasion by Exterior Pernicious Evils.

 

Long-term Kidney Yang Deficiency and Blood Deficiency also cause a

person to be sensitive to Exterior Pernicious Evils. It's not

unusual to find all three factors in a person who is extremely

weather sensitive. I had all 3 Deficiencies.

 

Because of the long-term Kidney Yang Deficiency I was extremely

sensitive to cold in particular in the environment. I was so

sensitive that just the cooling from the sweat evaporating off my

skin could trigger a severe headache. I'm right-handed, and if I

failed to dry my hair thoroughly on the left side after I washed it,

that triggered a headache on the left side. (Most of my migraines

were on the right side for some reason, but that's an example of when

I used to get headaches sometimes on the left.)

 

Wrapping a cold towel around any part of me would have triggered

muscles over-contracting and made my headaches worse. Any time I

chilled in the least, that triggered a headache. Heat eased my

headaches. I just didn't know where to put the heat for several

years.

 

For a lot of years I got some relief from heating pads to the head

and neck. Instead of a severe headache lasing days, it was gone in a

day or two once I went to bed and used heating pads over the head and

neck.

 

One day by accident I discovered that when the heating pad was put

elsewhere on my body, it would knock a headache out in seconds. One

day I woke up with a mild headache, but because it was a nice day I

wanted to go out and garden. After a couple of hours of gardening

and working a lot of muscles, I knew I'd better use the big heating

pad or my muscles would be stiff later. It was a big pad but I still

had to move it around to get different areas of my body. The moment

I placed it over the lower back, the headache that had been getting

worse since that morning started easing. It was gone in seconds!

 

At the time I didn't know anything about acupoints. But after a few

more successes with knocking out migraines in seconds or at most

minutes that used to hang on for a day or two and which a shot of

Demerol in the emergency room wouldn't knock out, I knew I was onto

something. (Later when I started to learn TCM, I learned why what I

was doing was so effective.)

 

In general, if adding heat helps and adding cold hurts, a person is

probably suffering from a Cold imbalance. If adding cold helps and

adding heat makes the person sicker or more uncomfortable, the person

probably suffers from a Heat imbalance. Apply the opposite to

balance out the person.

 

For those new to TCM, the earliest messages in the message section

are the most basic and will walk a person through the basics of TCM.

There are some posts specifically about Hot and Cold, and about Yin

and Yang. In general, Yang warms, activates, and dries. Yin cools,

calms, and moistens. Hot and Cold can be Deficiency Heat (Yin

Deficiciency) and Deficiency Cold (not enough Yang to warm the body

properly). Hot and Cold also can be due to Excess. For example the

weather is too hot and the body develops heat stroke. Or the person

eats too many herbs and foods with warming thermal energy. Excess

problems are caused by there being too much of something; Deficiency

problems are caused by there not being enough of something. (There's

also a post on Excess and Deficiency. I'm going into some basics in

this post because some of the list members reading this are new to

TCM.)

 

Problems can be Exterior or Interior. In TCM the term " Exterior " as

applied to the body means the head, neck, arms, legs, skin, muscles,

bones, and meridians. " Interior " means the trunk of the body, in

particular the internal Organs.

 

Any Exterior Pernicious Evil can invade the body, going from the

Exterior to the Interior. Pernicious Evils include Heat, Cold,

Dampness, Dryness, and Wind. TCM pays a lot more attention to

environment factors in health and sickness than Western medicine does.

 

If a person already is suffering from an Interior Deficiency, the

person is going to be more vulnerable to that condition in the

environment. Like in my case I had trouble warming up because I

lacked enough Yang. It had to get up in the 80's F before I felt

comfortable, and even then I could still have episodes of feeling

cold and needing a quilt. It was even harder to warm up when the

temperature got into the 60's F. I was practically catatonic when it

got to the 40's.

 

In general, if the headache is due to Cold, add Heat. If the

headache is due to Heat, add Cold.

 

One thing I remind students of is that just because a condition is

Exterior (head, neck, arms, legs, muscles, meridians) and has not yet

progressed to the Interior, that does NOT mean that the condition

isn't extremely painful and debilitating. For example arthritis

(Painful Obstruction Syndrome or Bi Syndrome) is an Exterior

condition and it can be extremely painful and debilitating. (The

Chinese see POS as being due to invasion by Cold, Damp, and/or Wind.

When the Pernicious Evil becomes trapped, it can turn into Fire, and

you have cases of " Hot " arthritis (redness around the affected joint).

 

Common English words that have special meaning in TCM are capitalized

so readers know that the TCM definition applies. For example, blood

and Blood are not exactly the same thing. In TCM Blood moistens and

nurtures, and the concept isn't restricted to just physical blood.

In general TCM is more concerned with function than with anatomy.

TCM " Organs " are sets of functions. For example, many of the

functions performed by the adrenal glands come under the concept of

the Kidneys in TCM. The Kidneys are said to " open into the ears " .

Whenever a person has problems with the ears or hearing, suspect and

rule in or rule out Kidney imbalance. The Liver " opens into the

eyes " so whenever a person has problems with the eyes or vision,

suspect and rule in or rule out Liver imbalance. The Spleen in TCM

includes many of the functions of the pancreas.

[Guest guest]

thnak you for the information

God bless you

tanveer

 

victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

> many people who suffered from migrane tried this method and got

releived.

>

> WHEN SOME ONE SUFFERS FROM MIGRANE THE he/she should

> take 3 towels and dip them in ice cold water. wring onw towel and

> wrap around head like a bandage and not like a cap. just as measure

> the circumference. dont cover the head just wrap like a bandage.

2nd

> towel around the neck and 3 rd towel around both feet.it wont take

> more than 10 mintes to didmish the acute killing migrane.

 

The operative word here is " many " . It does wonders for some migraine

sufferers but can make others sicker.

 

Remember the TCM concept of treating Hot and Cold imbalances with the

opposite. Cool those who are too Hot; warm those who are too Cold.

If you add heat to a person who is too Hot you make them sicker and

increase the symptoms and signs of Heat imbalance. Likewise if you

cool a person who already is too Cold even more, you make that person

sicker.

 

Some people are unusually sensitive to environmental conditions in

general and to specific environment condiitons ( " Pernicious Evils) in

particular. Any extremes in weather and sudden sharp changes in

weather tend to bother me, but I'm particularly vulnerable to Cold

and Wind.

 

What causes a person to be so sensitive to Exterior Pernious Evils

(weather conditions, etc.)? The number one cause is weak Protective

Qi. Protective Qi circulates at the surface of the body and gives

people protection against Exterior Pernicious Evils. The pores are

opening and closing as they should and some other things are going on

that gives the person resistence. If Protective Qi is Deficient, the

person is very vulnerable to invasion by Exterior Pernicious Evils.

 

Long-term Kidney Yang Deficiency and Blood Deficiency also cause a

person to be sensitive to Exterior Pernicious Evils. It's not

unusual to find all three factors in a person who is extremely

weather sensitive. I had all 3 Deficiencies.

 

Because of the long-term Kidney Yang Deficiency I was extremely

sensitive to cold in particular in the environment. I was so

sensitive that just the cooling from the sweat evaporating off my

skin could trigger a severe headache. I'm right-handed, and if I

failed to dry my hair thoroughly on the left side after I washed it,

that triggered a headache on the left side. (Most of my migraines

were on the right side for some reason, but that's an example of when

I used to get headaches sometimes on the left.)

 

Wrapping a cold towel around any part of me would have triggered

muscles over-contracting and made my headaches worse. Any time I

chilled in the least, that triggered a headache. Heat eased my

headaches. I just didn't know where to put the heat for several

years.

 

For a lot of years I got some relief from heating pads to the head

and neck. Instead of a severe headache lasing days, it was gone in a

day or two once I went to bed and used heating pads over the head and

neck.

 

One day by accident I discovered that when the heating pad was put

elsewhere on my body, it would knock a headache out in seconds. One

day I woke up with a mild headache, but because it was a nice day I

wanted to go out and garden. After a couple of hours of gardening

and working a lot of muscles, I knew I'd better use the big heating

pad or my muscles would be stiff later. It was a big pad but I still

had to move it around to get different areas of my body. The moment

I placed it over the lower back, the headache that had been getting

worse since that morning started easing. It was gone in seconds!

 

At the time I didn't know anything about acupoints. But after a few

more successes with knocking out migraines in seconds or at most

minutes that used to hang on for a day or two and which a shot of

Demerol in the emergency room wouldn't knock out, I knew I was onto

something. (Later when I started to learn TCM, I learned why what I

was doing was so effective.)

 

In general, if adding heat helps and adding cold hurts, a person is

probably suffering from a Cold imbalance. If adding cold helps and

adding heat makes the person sicker or more uncomfortable, the person

probably suffers from a Heat imbalance. Apply the opposite to

balance out the person.

 

For those new to TCM, the earliest messages in the message section

are the most basic and will walk a person through the basics of TCM.

There are some posts specifically about Hot and Cold, and about Yin

and Yang. In general, Yang warms, activates, and dries. Yin cools,

calms, and moistens. Hot and Cold can be Deficiency Heat (Yin

Deficiciency) and Deficiency Cold (not enough Yang to warm the body

properly). Hot and Cold also can be due to Excess. For example the

weather is too hot and the body develops heat stroke. Or the person

eats too many herbs and foods with warming thermal energy. Excess

problems are caused by there being too much of something; Deficiency

problems are caused by there not being enough of something. (There's

also a post on Excess and Deficiency. I'm going into some basics in

this post because some of the list members reading this are new to

TCM.)

 

Problems can be Exterior or Interior. In TCM the term " Exterior " as

applied to the body means the head, neck, arms, legs, skin, muscles,

bones, and meridians. " Interior " means the trunk of the body, in

particular the internal Organs.

 

Any Exterior Pernicious Evil can invade the body, going from the

Exterior to the Interior. Pernicious Evils include Heat, Cold,

Dampness, Dryness, and Wind. TCM pays a lot more attention to

environment factors in health and sickness than Western medicine does.

 

If a person already is suffering from an Interior Deficiency, the

person is going to be more vulnerable to that condition in the

environment. Like in my case I had trouble warming up because I

lacked enough Yang. It had to get up in the 80's F before I felt

comfortable, and even then I could still have episodes of feeling

cold and needing a quilt. It was even harder to warm up when the

temperature got into the 60's F. I was practically catatonic when it

got to the 40's.

 

In general, if the headache is due to Cold, add Heat. If the

headache is due to Heat, add Cold.

 

One thing I remind students of is that just because a condition is

Exterior (head, neck, arms, legs, muscles, meridians) and has not yet

progressed to the Interior, that does NOT mean that the condition

isn't extremely painful and debilitating. For example arthritis

(Painful Obstruction Syndrome or Bi Syndrome) is an Exterior

condition and it can be extremely painful and debilitating. (The

Chinese see POS as being due to invasion by Cold, Damp, and/or Wind.

When the Pernicious Evil becomes trapped, it can turn into Fire, and

you have cases of " Hot " arthritis (redness around the affected joint).

 

Common English words that have special meaning in TCM are capitalized

so readers know that the TCM definition applies. For example, blood

and Blood are not exactly the same thing. In TCM Blood moistens and

nurtures, and the concept isn't restricted to just physical blood.

In general TCM is more concerned with function than with anatomy.

TCM " Organs " are sets of functions. For example, many of the

functions performed by the adrenal glands come under the concept of

the Kidneys in TCM. The Kidneys are said to " open into the ears " .

Whenever a person has problems with the ears or hearing, suspect and

rule in or rule out Kidney imbalance. The Liver " opens into the

eyes " so whenever a person has problems with the eyes or vision,

suspect and rule in or rule out Liver imbalance. The Spleen in TCM

includes many of the functions of the pancreas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

To All Who Read This,

 

Both of these remedies work. I have used them and relief was received in each

case.

 

Remember and don't forget, what works for one may not work for another. So

experiment and see if the one doesn't work then try the other.

 

Here is another I use for this problem and has been successful also. I massage

the area around the medulla oblongata and the base of the skull especially the

place where the pressure is the hardest it will go away.

 

Thanks

 

Ray

 

Tanveer Rauf <ammi_pk wrote:

many people who suffered from migrane tried this method and got releived.

tanveer

 

victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

> The best remedy for migranes is very simple and easy and costs not

a single penny. WHEN SOME ONE SUFFERS FROM MIGRANE THE he/she should

take 3 towels and dip them in ice cold water. wring onw towel and

wrap around head like a bandage and not like a cap. just as measure

the circumference. dont cover the head just wrap like a bandage. 2nd

towel around the neck and 3 rd towel around both feet.it wont take

more than 10 mintes to didmish the acute killing migrane.

> wish you all health and happiness,

 

This particular treatment will worsen migraines due to Wind Cold

invasion. I believe it will work when the Root is Wind Heat and

maybe for some other Roots. (Liver Yang Rising?)

 

In my particular case, I did acupressure and applied heat to Small

Intestine 3 (on the hand) and Bladder 23 just below the waist on the

back. Sometimes the points that are best for knocking out a headache

aren't even near the head. Weird, but it works that way.

 

Some migraine sufferers notice that one hand (or foot) gets colder

than the other prior to an attack on that side of the body. If the

hand is warmed up in these cases, the migraine can be prevented. Put

a glove on or immerse the hand in warm water or wrap a heating pad

around it.

 

The migraines preceded by one hand or foot getting colder than the

other probably are due to Wind Cold invading. They were in my case.