PS RE: Help about nocturnal ejaculation - and the pain that follows

[Guest guest]

I forgot. You can go to a STD Clinic to check for prostate infection. I'd be

surprised if you need a doctors referral as " Clinics " as they are

euphemistically known need hassle free public attendance in order to manage

STD's.

 

Dear Henrik

 

May I suggest you get your girlfriend to check your prostate. If it is sore

to the touch or if it feels uneven or spongy or swollen then you can ask

your doctor for a referral to a urologist. Checking the prostate is done by

inserting a finger up the back passage. You cannot do it yourself you will

need assistance. You girlfriend will probably want to use a disposable

surgical type rubber glove that is nowadays readily available from a

pharmacist. A Google search on DRE (digital rectal examination) for prostate

problems will help you both work out the anatomy to go for.

 

I'd be interested to know if you have any breast swelling or nipple

soreness - or even discharge from the nipples ?

 

Have you had a bone density scan ? It is not usual to have for young men but

the symptoms you describe may be associated with a reduced bone mineral

density and associated increased risk of fracture. This is one area where

TCM and CM coincide - the Ki system associated tissue is bone and marrow - a

weak Ki system may not be able to support this tissue therefore the pain. In

conventional medicine back pain and joint paint may be interpreted as a

symptom of reduced bone density.

 

You can easily get a BMD scan at a womens osteoporosis clinic for bone

density measurement. In the UK it costs about ?30 to be tested privately.

You do not need a doctor's referral. If you cannot get it at home it may

well be worth a visit here.

 

There are further considerations as well but I won't elaborate until I hear

the results of your DRE and doctor's comment.

 

Take care,

 

Sammy.

 

> I went to see a traditional doctor today, but he didn't really react - and

he didn't see a link between the pains in stomach and the swollen tubes in

scotum. He would do a urine test for clamydia (but my girlfriend have

already been tested for this - and she did not have so i don't think I have

it either). I would like to see an urologist, to check for infection in

prostata, but in Denmark you need a doctors approval of seeing one, or else

it costs a lot of money (if at all possible).

 

Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for this - whatever it is?

I just hope that the symptoms is a part of healing process - because I

really don't know what to do right now but to try to relax and at the same

help the stomach without annoying it too much.

 

 

 

Henrik Nielsen [alfen]

19 June 2003 00:26

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Help about nocturnal ejaculation - and the

pain that follows

 

 

Hello Hugo,

 

Thank you for your concern and response,

 

You wrote as an answer to my question about how to find a teacher:

That's a good question. It's difficult to find a

genuine teacher. You just have to be informed and be

open to the possibility.

 

What should you be informed about if you seek a teacher?

 

I wrote:

> I think I have used this method (I think I read

> about in a book by Stephen T Chang or Mantak Chia),

> but in some ways I became unsure about it

> healthiness, because the urine was quite strange

> afterwards I recall.

You asked:

How so?

 

 

The urine got very unclear therefore I had doubts about the healthiness,

secondly while I put the pressure on the point it felt, as I recall it, a

bit stingy (but maybe I put pressure in the wrong spot).

 

You wrote:

Hmm...no, I can't. Basic thing is to fix your current

problem, and you need to do that with lifestyle yet

and herbs. When you are stronger you can try this

method.

 

Ok, I will write you then if is ok .

 

You wrote:

Do you ever have urgency with you urination or bowel

movements? Ever have to run to the bathroom? Do you

ever wake to urinate at night?

 

Not really any of them - except for the last one, but isn't that quite

normal?

 

I found a few days ago what I thought to be a dietary supplement (which was

the reason why I did not mention it in my former email - and I am sorry

about that) actually is 'Zhi bai di huang' (10 pills in morning and

afternoon) and these have I been taken together with 'Kai kit wan' (8 pills

in morning and afternoon) for 8 days all in all (before that it was jin suo

gu jing wan).

 

In the last 24 hours I have had the urge to urinate many more times than

usual. And now my belly feels really hard, like there is a lot of wind

inside it (and it feels hot as well in the lower part where the intestines

lies), the muscles feels sore around the solar plexus and in the lower part

of intestines there is a deeper stingy feeling - and there is a lot

movement. And there is a hot sensation in the groin on the left side. I

don't relate this to the herbpills (but that is because I don't know enough

about how they effect the body) instead it seems like the is some kind of

infection - but I was hoping these pills in some way could help my body to

fight it. (The pstitive thing is that there haven't been the tradtinal

backpains after the nightly ejaculations but my eyes have been very tired

for the last couple of days)

 

The acupuncturist told me yesterday to stop taking the herp pills, so the

body would not get to used to them. But to me it seems like whatever is

happening in my body it is relly accelerating right now.

 

Now I have not taken the pills for 24 hours.

 

I went to see a traditional doctor today, but he didn't really react - and

he didn't see a link between the pains in stomach and the swollen tubes in

scotum. He would do a urine test for clamydia (but my girlfriend have

already been tested for this - and she did not have so i don't think I have

it either). I would like to see an urologist, to check for infection in

prostata, but in Denmark you need a doctors approval of seeing one, or else

it costs a lot of money (if at all possible).

 

Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for this - whatever it is?

I just hope that the symptoms is a part of healing process - because I

really don't know what to do right now but to try to relax and at the same

help the stomach without annoying it too much.

 

Best regards

Henrik Nielsen, Denmark

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your replies,

 

What stands STD for?

 

Besdt regards

Henrik

-

ga.bates

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:23 PM

PS RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Help about nocturnal ejaculation - and the

pain that follows

 

 

 

 

I forgot. You can go to a STD Clinic to check for prostate infection. I'd be

surprised if you need a doctors referral as " Clinics " as they are

euphemistically known need hassle free public attendance in order to manage

STD's.

 

Dear Henrik

 

May I suggest you get your girlfriend to check your prostate. If it is sore

to the touch or if it feels uneven or spongy or swollen then you can ask

your doctor for a referral to a urologist. Checking the prostate is done by

inserting a finger up the back passage. You cannot do it yourself you will

need assistance. You girlfriend will probably want to use a disposable

surgical type rubber glove that is nowadays readily available from a

pharmacist. A Google search on DRE (digital rectal examination) for prostate

problems will help you both work out the anatomy to go for.

 

I'd be interested to know if you have any breast swelling or nipple

soreness - or even discharge from the nipples ?

 

Have you had a bone density scan ? It is not usual to have for young men but

the symptoms you describe may be associated with a reduced bone mineral

density and associated increased risk of fracture. This is one area where

TCM and CM coincide - the Ki system associated tissue is bone and marrow - a

weak Ki system may not be able to support this tissue therefore the pain. In

conventional medicine back pain and joint paint may be interpreted as a

symptom of reduced bone density.

 

You can easily get a BMD scan at a womens osteoporosis clinic for bone

density measurement. In the UK it costs about ?30 to be tested privately.

You do not need a doctor's referral. If you cannot get it at home it may

well be worth a visit here.

 

There are further considerations as well but I won't elaborate until I hear

the results of your DRE and doctor's comment.

 

Take care,

 

Sammy.

 

> I went to see a traditional doctor today, but he didn't really react - and

he didn't see a link between the pains in stomach and the swollen tubes in

scotum. He would do a urine test for clamydia (but my girlfriend have

already been tested for this - and she did not have so i don't think I have

it either). I would like to see an urologist, to check for infection in

prostata, but in Denmark you need a doctors approval of seeing one, or else

it costs a lot of money (if at all possible).

 

Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for this - whatever it is?

I just hope that the symptoms is a part of healing process - because I

really don't know what to do right now but to try to relax and at the same

help the stomach without annoying it too much.

 

 

Henrik Nielsen [alfen]

19 June 2003 00:26

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Help about nocturnal ejaculation - and the

pain that follows

 

 

Hello Hugo,

 

Thank you for your concern and response,

 

You wrote as an answer to my question about how to find a teacher:

That's a good question. It's difficult to find a

genuine teacher. You just have to be informed and be

open to the possibility.

 

What should you be informed about if you seek a teacher?

 

I wrote:

> I think I have used this method (I think I read

> about in a book by Stephen T Chang or Mantak Chia),

> but in some ways I became unsure about it

> healthiness, because the urine was quite strange

> afterwards I recall.

You asked:

How so?

 

 

The urine got very unclear therefore I had doubts about the healthiness,

secondly while I put the pressure on the point it felt, as I recall it, a

bit stingy (but maybe I put pressure in the wrong spot).

 

You wrote:

Hmm...no, I can't. Basic thing is to fix your current

problem, and you need to do that with lifestyle yet

and herbs. When you are stronger you can try this

method.

 

Ok, I will write you then if is ok .

 

You wrote:

Do you ever have urgency with you urination or bowel

movements? Ever have to run to the bathroom? Do you

ever wake to urinate at night?

 

Not really any of them - except for the last one, but isn't that quite

normal?

 

I found a few days ago what I thought to be a dietary supplement (which was

the reason why I did not mention it in my former email - and I am sorry

about that) actually is 'Zhi bai di huang' (10 pills in morning and

afternoon) and these have I been taken together with 'Kai kit wan' (8 pills

in morning and afternoon) for 8 days all in all (before that it was jin suo

gu jing wan).

 

In the last 24 hours I have had the urge to urinate many more times than

usual. And now my belly feels really hard, like there is a lot of wind

inside it (and it feels hot as well in the lower part where the intestines

lies), the muscles feels sore around the solar plexus and in the lower part

of intestines there is a deeper stingy feeling - and there is a lot

movement. And there is a hot sensation in the groin on the left side. I

don't relate this to the herbpills (but that is because I don't know enough

about how they effect the body) instead it seems like the is some kind of

infection - but I was hoping these pills in some way could help my body to

fight it. (The pstitive thing is that there haven't been the tradtinal

backpains after the nightly ejaculations but my eyes have been very tired

for the last couple of days)

 

The acupuncturist told me yesterday to stop taking the herp pills, so the

body would not get to used to them. But to me it seems like whatever is

happening in my body it is relly accelerating right now.

 

Now I have not taken the pills for 24 hours.

 

I went to see a traditional doctor today, but he didn't really react - and

he didn't see a link between the pains in stomach and the swollen tubes in

scotum. He would do a urine test for clamydia (but my girlfriend have

already been tested for this - and she did not have so i don't think I have

it either). I would like to see an urologist, to check for infection in

prostata, but in Denmark you need a doctors approval of seeing one, or else

it costs a lot of money (if at all possible).

 

Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for this - whatever it is?

I just hope that the symptoms is a part of healing process - because I

really don't know what to do right now but to try to relax and at the same

help the stomach without annoying it too much.

 

Best regards

Henrik Nielsen, Denmark

 

[Guest guest]

STD = sexually transmitted disease

 

You may have been harboring a bacteria or virus for a long time. Sometimes

gut bacteria can also enter the urethra and lodge in the prostate - maybe

due to going in a dirty swimming pool even .. who knows ? The important

point is the get a conventional evaluation and set it next to your TCM

evaluation.

 

Sammy.

 

 

Henrik Nielsen [alfen]

19 June 2003 13:57

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Re: PS RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Help about nocturnal ejaculation -

and the pain that follows

 

 

Thanks for your replies,

 

What stands STD for?

 

Besdt regards

Henrik

-

ga.bates

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:23 PM

PS RE: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Help about nocturnal ejaculation - and

the pain that follows

 

 

 

 

I forgot. You can go to a STD Clinic to check for prostate infection. I'd

be

surprised if you need a doctors referral as " Clinics " as they are

euphemistically known need hassle free public attendance in order to

manage

STD's.

 

Dear Henrik

 

May I suggest you get your girlfriend to check your prostate. If it is

sore

to the touch or if it feels uneven or spongy or swollen then you can ask

your doctor for a referral to a urologist. Checking the prostate is done

by

inserting a finger up the back passage. You cannot do it yourself you will

need assistance. You girlfriend will probably want to use a disposable

surgical type rubber glove that is nowadays readily available from a

pharmacist. A Google search on DRE (digital rectal examination) for

prostate

problems will help you both work out the anatomy to go for.

 

I'd be interested to know if you have any breast swelling or nipple

soreness - or even discharge from the nipples ?

 

Have you had a bone density scan ? It is not usual to have for young men

but

the symptoms you describe may be associated with a reduced bone mineral

density and associated increased risk of fracture. This is one area where

TCM and CM coincide - the Ki system associated tissue is bone and marrow -

a

weak Ki system may not be able to support this tissue therefore the pain.

In

conventional medicine back pain and joint paint may be interpreted as a

symptom of reduced bone density.

 

You can easily get a BMD scan at a womens osteoporosis clinic for bone

density measurement. In the UK it costs about ?30 to be tested privately.

You do not need a doctor's referral. If you cannot get it at home it may

well be worth a visit here.

 

There are further considerations as well but I won't elaborate until I

hear

the results of your DRE and doctor's comment.

 

Take care,

 

Sammy.

 

> I went to see a traditional doctor today, but he didn't really react -

and

he didn't see a link between the pains in stomach and the swollen tubes in

scotum. He would do a urine test for clamydia (but my girlfriend have

already been tested for this - and she did not have so i don't think I

have

it either). I would like to see an urologist, to check for infection in

prostata, but in Denmark you need a doctors approval of seeing one, or

else

it costs a lot of money (if at all possible).

 

Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for this - whatever it is?

I just hope that the symptoms is a part of healing process - because I

really don't know what to do right now but to try to relax and at the same

help the stomach without annoying it too much.

 

 

Henrik Nielsen [alfen]

19 June 2003 00:26

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Help about nocturnal ejaculation - and the

pain that follows

 

 

Hello Hugo,

 

Thank you for your concern and response,

 

You wrote as an answer to my question about how to find a teacher:

That's a good question. It's difficult to find a

genuine teacher. You just have to be informed and be

open to the possibility.

 

What should you be informed about if you seek a teacher?

 

I wrote:

> I think I have used this method (I think I read

> about in a book by Stephen T Chang or Mantak Chia),

> but in some ways I became unsure about it

> healthiness, because the urine was quite strange

> afterwards I recall.

You asked:

How so?

 

 

The urine got very unclear therefore I had doubts about the healthiness,

secondly while I put the pressure on the point it felt, as I recall it, a

bit stingy (but maybe I put pressure in the wrong spot).

 

You wrote:

Hmm...no, I can't. Basic thing is to fix your current

problem, and you need to do that with lifestyle yet

and herbs. When you are stronger you can try this

method.

 

Ok, I will write you then if is ok .

 

You wrote:

Do you ever have urgency with you urination or bowel

movements? Ever have to run to the bathroom? Do you

ever wake to urinate at night?

 

Not really any of them - except for the last one, but isn't that quite

normal?

 

I found a few days ago what I thought to be a dietary supplement (which

was

the reason why I did not mention it in my former email - and I am sorry

about that) actually is 'Zhi bai di huang' (10 pills in morning and

afternoon) and these have I been taken together with 'Kai kit wan' (8

pills

in morning and afternoon) for 8 days all in all (before that it was jin

suo

gu jing wan).

 

In the last 24 hours I have had the urge to urinate many more times than

usual. And now my belly feels really hard, like there is a lot of wind

inside it (and it feels hot as well in the lower part where the intestines

lies), the muscles feels sore around the solar plexus and in the lower

part

of intestines there is a deeper stingy feeling - and there is a lot

movement. And there is a hot sensation in the groin on the left side. I

don't relate this to the herbpills (but that is because I don't know

enough

about how they effect the body) instead it seems like the is some kind of

infection - but I was hoping these pills in some way could help my body to

fight it. (The pstitive thing is that there haven't been the tradtinal

backpains after the nightly ejaculations but my eyes have been very tired

for the last couple of days)

 

The acupuncturist told me yesterday to stop taking the herp pills, so the

body would not get to used to them. But to me it seems like whatever is

happening in my body it is relly accelerating right now.

 

Now I have not taken the pills for 24 hours.

 

I went to see a traditional doctor today, but he didn't really react - and

he didn't see a link between the pains in stomach and the swollen tubes in

scotum. He would do a urine test for clamydia (but my girlfriend have

already been tested for this - and she did not have so i don't think I

have

it either). I would like to see an urologist, to check for infection in

prostata, but in Denmark you need a doctors approval of seeing one, or

else

it costs a lot of money (if at all possible).

 

Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for this - whatever it is?

I just hope that the symptoms is a part of healing process - because I

really don't know what to do right now but to try to relax and at the same

help the stomach without annoying it too much.

 

Best regards

Henrik Nielsen, Denmark