Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Has anyone had any experience with treating atrial fibrillation? With this particular case there seems to be Heart/Kidney qi deficiency only after over-exertion. Epsiodes of atrial fibrillation occur in the early morning, after over-exertion the day prior, when the qi of these channels are waning according to the Chinese clock. Has anyone seen or treated similar cases to this?? chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 --- christine_wnm <christine_wnm wrote: > Has anyone had any experience with treating atrial > fibrillation? > With this particular case there seems to be > Heart/Kidney qi > deficiency only after over-exertion. Epsiodes of > atrial fibrillation > occur in the early morning, after over-exertion the > day prior, when > the qi of these channels are waning according to the > Chinese clock. > Has anyone seen or treated similar cases to this?? Atrial Fibrillation is the western medical term for irregular heartbearts / palpitations. Just treat according to TCM, should be no problem. If you'd like more info on TCM treatment, then I think we might need a more complete intake. How is the liver, spleen, the kidneys? We can see form the info below that there's nothing out of the ordinary in terms of TCM: --- A broad range of physical symptoms may be associated with AF. Some people have absolutely no awareness of being in atrial fibrillation, while others know precisely the moment when their heart rhythm destabilizes from normal sinus rhythm to AF. Many patients describe the irregular, often rapid pulsations of the heart in AF as an uncomfortable flopping sensation inside of the chest with a sudden and keen awareness of every heartbeat. This may be accompanied by shortness of breath, profuse sweating, chest pain, presyncope (dizziness), syncope (passing out), exercise intolerance and extreme fatigue. Others describe anxiety and a feeling of impending doom, especially when AF is first discovered. For some patients, the pattern of atrial fibrillation may progress from a paroxysmal and infrequent event to become a chronic condition. Often, there is a worsening or progression of the symptoms such that many patients feel incapable of carrying out normal daily activities. --- Just carry out your pattern differentiation, Chris, and if you then report back, I'm sure we can give you a slew of info. Hope this helps, Hugo Plus For a better Internet experience http://www..co.uk/btoffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Kidney/gall bladder links? christine_wnm <christine_wnm wrote:Has anyone had any experience with treating atrial fibrillation? With this particular case there seems to be Heart/Kidney qi deficiency only after over-exertion. Epsiodes of atrial fibrillation occur in the early morning, after over-exertion the day prior, when the qi of these channels are waning according to the Chinese clock. Has anyone seen or treated similar cases to this?? chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 I am a little familiar with this condition, but there is not enough detail to be sure .. . From the description Qi is low (Ki especially). It looks like Yang is dominant in what is left giving the subjective impression of energy. Exercise depletes Yin (substance) in turn depleting Blood. Early morning palpitations and rising pressured feeling in the chest is characteristic. A well known tonic for this condition is Yang Xue An Shen Wan. For severe cases a small amount of cinnabar is added although probably not unless you are in the Far East. Hoang Ho [twomtns2002] 12 May 2003 19:40 Chinese Traditional Medicine Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] atrial fibrillation Kidney/gall bladder links? christine_wnm <christine_wnm wrote:Has anyone had any experience with treating atrial fibrillation? With this particular case there seems to be Heart/Kidney qi deficiency only after over-exertion. Epsiodes of atrial fibrillation occur in the early morning, after over-exertion the day prior, when the qi of these channels are waning according to the Chinese clock. Has anyone seen or treated similar cases to this?? chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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