Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Hello, I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by Liver Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms of Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any natural remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any responses. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Matt, from personal experience with Liver Blood Deficiency, the doctrine of signature works well here. Eat Liver. If you can handle it, lots of people I guess don't like Liver too much, but if you cook it properly it does actually help very fast and can get rid of floaters in a hurry (not sure though about other symptoms). Worked for me anyway. - Claudia. - Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:02 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters Hello, I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by Liver Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms of Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any natural remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any responses. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 There are plenty of formulas for this condition, though I'd like to add a dietary idea too, and that is eating liver, if that isn't a problem. -al. On Saturday, April 19, 2003, at 07:02 AM, Matt wrote: > Hello, > > I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by Liver > Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms of > Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, > occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any natural > remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any > responses. > > -Matt > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2003 Report Share Posted April 20, 2003 Thanks Claudia and Al for the replies. What kind of liver and how should it be prepared? I.e. is chop liver acceptable? I haven't eaten it since I was small and even then I remember a distaste for it, but then again my palate has changed substantially. Is fish liver okay, or only beef liver? Thanks again! -Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine , Claudia <dragonette775@s...> wrote: > Matt, > > from personal experience with Liver Blood Deficiency, the doctrine of signature works well here. Eat Liver. If you can handle it, lots of people I guess don't like Liver too much, but if you cook it properly it does actually help very fast and can get rid of floaters in a hurry (not sure though about other symptoms). > Worked for me anyway. > > - Claudia. > > > - > Matt > Chinese Traditional Medicine > Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:02 AM > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters > > > Hello, > > I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by Liver > Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms of > Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, > occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any natural > remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any > responses. > > -Matt > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2003 Report Share Posted April 20, 2003 Hi Matt: You might like to try some veal liver. Where I am veal is very high, but for some reason my grocery store can obtain fresh veal liver at a very reasonable price (probably because so many people will not eat liver). I usually buy the whole liver (from a special order) which can weigh from six to eight pounds. My store cuts and wraps it for the freezer free and the meat cutters even put the correct number of slices into the package for everyone in the family. It is so tender and milder in flavor compared with other liver I have tried. Much better than the calves liver most grocery stores sell prepackaged and already frozen from meat sellers such as Armour. To make liver milder in taste it can be soaked in some milk in the refrigerator (for an hour or so), then drained and dipped in some flour to saute. My family prefers the taste of bacon fat with the liver, so I first fry some bacon, salt and pepper the floured liver, and then saute in the bacon grease. Do not over cook or it will toughen. After doing this I saute some onions in the pan over a moderate heat which caramelizes and sweetens them. Use lots of them to counter the taste in liver most people do not like (this is why the bacon grease is used too), then I put the cooked onions over the liver which I have kept warm and crumble the cooked bacon over the top. This is probably not something that should be eaten that often (as it is very rich made this way), but every two weeks or so this is what I do to get everyone to eat their liver. If you still do not care for the taste you might like to try some ketchup with it. Sarah In a message dated 4/20/2003 12:55:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, " Matt " < ethereal_seaswrites: > Thanks Claudia and Al for the replies. What kind of liver and how > should it be prepared? I.e. is chop liver acceptable? I haven't > eaten it since I was small and even then I remember a distaste for it, > but then again my palate has changed substantially. Is fish liver > okay, or only beef liver? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2003 Report Share Posted April 20, 2003 As far as I know any kind of Liver will do, chicken Liver I find tastes better, or turkey. I am German so I make my Liver with caramelized onions and apples and mash potatoes. That's the way my mom used to make it when I was a kid and I like it that way. Don't know anything about fish liver. If you want a Liver recipe let me know, I can help you out with that. Claudia. - Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:00 PM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters Thanks Claudia and Al for the replies. What kind of liver and how should it be prepared? I.e. is chop liver acceptable? I haven't eaten it since I was small and even then I remember a distaste for it, but then again my palate has changed substantially. Is fish liver okay, or only beef liver? Thanks again! -Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine , Claudia <dragonette775@s...> wrote: > Matt, > > from personal experience with Liver Blood Deficiency, the doctrine of signature works well here. Eat Liver. If you can handle it, lots of people I guess don't like Liver too much, but if you cook it properly it does actually help very fast and can get rid of floaters in a hurry (not sure though about other symptoms). > Worked for me anyway. > > - Claudia. > > > - > Matt > Chinese Traditional Medicine > Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:02 AM > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters > > > Hello, > > I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by Liver > Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms of > Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, > occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any natural > remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any > responses. > > -Matt > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 Thanks to all for the recepies! Now let's hope this gets rid of my floaters! -Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine , frederic <fredlecut@e...> wrote: > I recommend to slightly saute it in butter - do not let teh temperature > go too high - the slices should be between 1/4 and 1/2 inch thick - the > liver needs to be still pink inside - right at the end sprinkle with > fresh parsley - and squeeze a lemon on top of it in your plate. > It is also very great grilled, but here again make sure you do not > overcook it because it becomes very dry very quickly. Here again, lemon > juice on top is great. > > Frederic > > bonmotSarah@a... wrote: > > > Hi Matt: > > > > You might like to try some veal liver. Where I am veal is very high, > > but for > > some reason my grocery store can obtain fresh veal liver at a very > > reasonable > > price (probably because so many people will not eat liver). I usually > > buy > > the whole liver (from a special order) which can weigh from six to > > eight > > pounds. My store cuts and wraps it for the freezer free and the meat > > cutters > > even put the correct number of slices into the package for everyone in > > the > > family. It is so tender and milder in flavor compared with other > > liver I > > have tried. Much better than the calves liver most grocery stores sell > > > > prepackaged and already frozen from meat sellers such as Armour. > > > > To make liver milder in taste it can be soaked in some milk in the > > refrigerator (for an hour or so), then drained and dipped in some > > flour to > > saute. My family prefers the taste of bacon fat with the liver, so I > > first > > fry some bacon, salt and pepper the floured liver, and then saute in > > the > > bacon grease. Do not over cook or it will toughen. After doing this > > I saute > > some onions in the pan over a moderate heat which caramelizes and > > sweetens > > them. Use lots of them to counter the taste in liver most people do > > not like > > (this is why the bacon grease is used too), then I put the cooked > > onions over > > the liver which I have kept warm and crumble the cooked bacon over the > > top. > > This is probably not something that should be eaten that often (as it > > is very > > rich made this way), but every two weeks or so this is what I do to > > get > > everyone to eat their liver. If you still do not care for the taste > > you > > might like to try some ketchup with it. > > > > Sarah > > > > In a message dated 4/20/2003 12:55:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > " Matt " < > > ethereal_seas>writes: > > > > > > > Thanks Claudia and Al for the replies. What kind of liver and how > > > should it be prepared? I.e. is chop liver acceptable? I haven't > > > eaten it since I was small and even then I remember a distaste for > > it, > > > but then again my palate has changed substantially. Is fish liver > > > okay, or only beef liver? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 I suspect that the Chinese nutrition texts are focused mostly on beef liver, though from personal experience, I'm more into calve's liver as it is more tender and has less connective tissue. If you poach it in a mixture of white wine and water for like a half hour it can get very tender. I myself like to add some saute'ed mushroom and onions to the mix and maybe top if off with a dab of sour creme/dijon mustard combo. Then again, I need to gain weight, not sure if that applies to you. I also like chicken livers, but again, I'm not sure if the chicken aspect alters its energetics. By the way, a quick look through one of my formula books suggests a formula called " Bu Gan Tang (Tonify the Liver Decoction) " for your floaters. I don't know if that kind of formula is available for you locally, but you can look for it at http://craneherb.com to see if it is available in pill or premade form. -al. On Saturday, April 19, 2003, at 10:00 PM, Matt wrote: > Thanks Claudia and Al for the replies. What kind of liver and how > should it be prepared? I.e. is chop liver acceptable? I haven't > eaten it since I was small and even then I remember a distaste for it, > but then again my palate has changed substantially. Is fish liver > okay, or only beef liver? > > Thanks again! > > -Matt > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , Claudia <dragonette775@s...> > wrote: >> Matt, >> >> from personal experience with Liver Blood Deficiency, the doctrine > of signature works well here. Eat Liver. If you can handle it, lots > of people I guess don't like Liver too much, but if you cook it > properly it does actually help very fast and can get rid of floaters > in a hurry (not sure though about other symptoms). >> Worked for me anyway. >> >> - Claudia. >> >> >> - >> Matt >> Chinese Traditional Medicine >> Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:02 AM >> [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by > Liver >> Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms > of >> Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, >> occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any > natural >> remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any >> responses. >> >> -Matt >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Matt, The following page has two liver recipes on it and several others related to boosting iron content. (I came across it while researching blackstrap molasses recipes and ideas for incorporating it into my diet...) Hope this helps! http://www.simcoehealth.org/Facts/Article.asp?Category=Parent & ID=96 Peace, Jessica - Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:00 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters Thanks Claudia and Al for the replies. What kind of liver and how should it be prepared? I.e. is chop liver acceptable? I haven't eaten it since I was small and even then I remember a distaste for it, but then again my palate has changed substantially. Is fish liver okay, or only beef liver? Thanks again! -Matt Chinese Traditional Medicine , Claudia <dragonette775@s...> wrote: > Matt, > > from personal experience with Liver Blood Deficiency, the doctrine of signature works well here. Eat Liver. If you can handle it, lots of people I guess don't like Liver too much, but if you cook it properly it does actually help very fast and can get rid of floaters in a hurry (not sure though about other symptoms). > Worked for me anyway. > > - Claudia. > > > - > Matt > Chinese Traditional Medicine > Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:02 AM > [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Liver Blood Deficiency and Eye Floaters > > > Hello, > > I recently found out that floaters in the eye may be caused by Liver > Blood Deficiency. Also, I noticed that I had some of the symptoms of > Liver Blood Deficiency, like dull headaches behind the eyes, > occasional dizziness, and brittle, pittied nails. What if any natural > remedies exist for this Liver Blood Deficiency? Thanks for any > responses. > > -Matt > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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