SARs Pneumonia: Herbs, Homeopathy, Immune Sx etc

[Guest guest]

From my sources in Hong Kong Ban Lan Gen is the herb of choice in IV or IM

form. As a preventative one can drink the tea to support the immune system.

However the tea will not cure SARS by itself.

 

I am working on getting in touch with survivors or their care takers to take

the whole TCM and Homeopathic case. Without that we are guessing and playing

around with what if stories that people may take as factual when we do not

have the facts. Anyone who knows someone with a verified western diagnosis

please contact me privately.

 

Prevention is the key:

 

SARS has arrived in the USA.

 

DO NOT BUY INTO FEAR. We are looking for all the remedies that will help

treat it but prevention is the key.

 

Buy into my immune system is healthy and strong. I am well and I allow only

health and comfort to envelope me.

 

The best defense is washing your hands frequently and limiting contact with

those with respiratory illnesses. Get plenty of rest, exercise, good clean

food and hold positive thoughts.

 

Something that works really well at the FIRST SIGN of illness is to keep

dried Shitake mushrooms or Enoki mushrooms on hand. At the first sign of a

respiratory or viral infection boil water and pour 1 cup over one large or

2-3 small Shitake or a handful of Enoki mushrooms and let steep for 5

minutes. You can add sweetener like honey if you like. Then take 2 cayenne

pepper capsules cool cayenne is fine.

 

The mushroom boosts the immune system the cayenne penetrates the outer

membrane of the virus cell so the immune system can efficiently identify it

and attack it.

 

Clean your food well.

 

A good veggie wash is to put only a pinch of cayenne pepper in non scented

baby Castile soap. Scrub hard veggies and rinse in tap water then distilled

water to pull off all of the toxins and residues. If it is soft like lettuce,

etc., let is soak in purified water for 5-15 minutes then rinse well and

final rinse distilled to pull the residue off.

Pulls off the waxes and surface pesticides and fertilizers.

 

Another veggie wash is 1 ounce of food grade H2O2 in 12 ounces of water.

 Let the stuff sit for 5 – 15 minutes (especially grapes) then rinse.

 Remember these chemicals are designed to be persistent (and will survive

surfactants, soaps, UV radiation, water, scrubbing, etc.) and that's why you

use the H2O2, as a strong oxidizing agent, it destroys the chemicals (plus

creepy crawlers). 

 

I am offering a funshop of ways to boost the immune system. If you would like

to sponsor me please let me know.

 

The best prevention is taking care of yourself and boosting your immune

system before you get sick.

 

Many TCM practitioners & homeopaths tend to regard bacteria and viruses as

*symptoms* of a state  rather than causes because infection only tends to

happen once a change in state has provided the environment in which they can

thrive -- ie. the seed is nothing without the soil -- and we all know how we

tend to fall for these things when we're already feeling below par.

Everyone exposed does not become ill. Look at how Mother Teresa held all of

the people with leprosy and she herself did not get it. Not everyone gets

AIDS or Colds etc.

Our bodies were designed to keep us healthy and to fight all dis-ease when we

do become ill. Be kind to yourself and others now.

Limit the amount of conflict you listen to in your relationships and or watch

on TV from the war coverage and stories to the rip out your heart those sad

programs that we watch.   It will lower the immune system and keep us

dwelling on thoughts of fear, sadness and despair or anger.

 

What we dwell on the most we create by the universal law of attraction and

draw it to us. There is no right or wrong in the universe it just is with no

attachment. We place the attachment and emotion to that which is in our

lives.

 

As to what you can do to raise your immunity.

 

As far as I'm concerned, the best boost we can give our immunity is through

our state of mind. Getting in touch with what your state of mind is like when

you're feeling great and a match for anything life throws at you and working

on being in that place seems to be very helpful. Body and mind are one. If

mind believes that body is effectively outside its realm of influence and

prey to anything that happens by, then that's the reality that mind creates!

 

Personally, I tend not to pay too much heed to these scares that are forever

doing the rounds on the principal that to give them too much energy simply

turns me into a magnet for them. I eat well, sleep well, drink plenty of good

clean water, listen to my body when it tells me it needs a break, and pay

extra attention to mental shielding exercises when I visit people suffering

from these complaints or see them in the clinic. 

 

If the " bug " is close to home, I look at the symptoms doing the rounds and

(as well as checking out likely remedies) if I really want to avoid them,

look at them in symbolic terms and see whether I've got issues in that area.

If I do, then I give them some attention so I don't need the " bug " to do it

for me.

 

IE lung and Lg Intestine grief issues; throat: communication issues are first

places to look at. However what do these areas mean for you? It could be

different from mine OR THE TCM approach.

 

I have this idea of myself as someone who is as strong as an ox and brimming

with health -- I am healthy feeling great!

again on the principal that the way we conceptualize ourselves creates that

reality. It all seems to work pretty well!

 

In the meantime get rest, reduce stress, take a few minutes to laugh every

day even if you just start laughing by forcing it. The body will produce the

same endorphins.

 

I plan to teach workshops in the near future on 1. boosting the immune system

2. Being prepared for earth changes with protocols for professional health

care practitioners and lay people and 3. on Menopause. I am willing to travel

to teach. If you are interested in sponsoring me or attending please let me

know. I have written each of these on the level of the practitioner or the

lay person.

 

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SARS viruses protection

 

Posted by <A HREF= " kroegerpractitioner " >Kroeger

Practitioner</A> on 4/2/2003, 1:38 pm

142.25.33.244

 

For Protection Against SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome)

 

Herbs: only 2 of them.

1. Sage leaf - dried and cut up into small pieces (not ground sage powder)

2. Mugwort leaf - dried and cut up into small pieces

 

Both can be purchased in bulk from your local health food store.

 

Take 4 cups of water in a medium corning wear pot and bring to a boil.

Add 4 Tablespoons of Sage and 1 Tablespoon of Mugwort.

Steep for 15 minutes. Use a medium sized corning wear pot and keep the lid

snug on the pot until the tea has finished steeping. The medium sized pot

provides enough surface area for the constituents of the herbs to be

decocted. The larger size pot is ok too. This tea may not be pleasant tasting

to you. It is strong medicine. It is intended to be.

 

Drink the tea hot or warm. Drink it all at once. Rest. Take again as needed.

You may use a metal strainer to strain the herbs away from the decoction and

pour the liquid into a cup. The remaining herbs can be reused only once more

and then they need to be thrown out.

 

REUSING THE HERBS

To reuse these herbs bring them to a boil in 4 cups water. Once they are

boiling take the pot off the element and steep for 15 minutes. Always keep

the pot top on until the 15 minutes are over.

Do not use Wormwood in place of Mugwort. They are both Artemesia species.

Mugwort has a sweet taste to it. Wormwood has a bitter taste to it. Sage is

very antiseptic. Mugwort's Latin name is Artemesia vulgaris. Sometimes

Mugwort is called Cronewort.

 

DIRECTIONS FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 12

You may give the child 1/4 cup of the tea per hour until the child is better.

 

 

DIRECTIONS FOR YOUNG TEENAGERS, 12 TO 18

You may give the teenager 1-cup of the tea every 1/2 hr until they are

better.

 

CONSUMPTION OF FOOD

Use your own judgment in determining whether you should consume food when you

are sick with SARS.

 

If your child is the one who is sick then do not force-feed them.

Force-feeding them will make them worse. This means they need the tea, and

their body doesn't wish to eat because it's fighting the infection. When the

child or you are hungry then eat.

 

FOODS TO AVOID

Do not eat breads with sugar in them. Do not eat white bread. Do not eat

other foods which have sugar in them. That includes all types of cereals for

breakfast. If in doubt ask the grocery clerk whether the product you eat has

sugar in it. Sugar depresses the immune system. Limit your fruit intake or

avoid it altogether while this SARS problem is cleared in this world. Pita

whole wheat bread may not contain sugar in it. Always check the ingredients

for sugar in any form.

 

SYMPTOMS OF SARS & IF YOU SUSPECT YOU HAVE SARS

If you suspect that you have SARS drink the decoction. You may have pain in

your sternum area (middle of the chest) once you are infected. This is one of

the first signs of SARS. The many different viruses which cause SARS go

straight to your lungs.

 

If you have a fever and have just received this information then FAST (no

food) on this tea until the fever breaks. Keep as far away from people's

faces as possible. Have someone purchase the herbs for you and deliver them

to your house.

 

If you see someone who is coughing, then avoid him or her.

 

WHAT YOU MAY FEEL AFTERWARD

Depending on the severity of the infection (how much of a grip it took on

your lungs before you cleared it) there may be some residual effects on your

lungs. You may have some coughing or still some pain afterwards for a while.

Your lungs will be weak.

 

AVOID THE FOLLOWING

Avoid eating in public places until medical science has told us that the

threat is gone.

Avoid air travel.

Avoid the use of hair dyes, pesticides on your lawn, chemically laden

cleaning fluids, etc.

Avoid wearing perfumes.

Do not drink chlorinated tap water.

 

DEVELOPMENT OF IMMUNITY AGAINST SARS CAUSING VIRUSES

It is not known whether our bodies can develop immunity against the viruses

that cause SARS.

 

This means we can clear the virus from our body with the tea but can keep

getting re-infected from somebody else at a later time. I do not believe the

medical virologists will tell us this information because it may cause panic.

Keep this in mind. Also they may not know because everybody is so different

and our immune systems are very complex. If someone cannot develop immunity

to it then he or she will need to keep taking the tea every so often.

Please check my web site for details as to the answer to the above question

of immunity against this virus. My web site is not up at this time.

 

Brought to you by kroegerpractitioner.

 

I personally don't buy into don't seek western care if you are really ill and

can't breathe.

 

Now for the latest info on SARS there may be a bird or Fowl connection.

 

New Scientist reports:

>

> The virus causing a global outbreak of deadly pneumonia is likely to be a

> new hybrid that mutated in the intensively farmed livestock of China's

> Guangdong province.

>

> Bird vendors or chefs were the first people to fall ill with Severe Acute

> Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), the vice-director for viral diseases at the

> Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention has revealed.

>

> Bi Shengli told the South China Morning Post that collaboration with health

> officials in Guangdong had revealed that the earliest SARS patients had

been

> in close and continued contact with chickens, ducks, pigeons and owls.

>

> The connection between SARS and fowl bolsters preliminary scientific data

on

> the virus. Researchers have identified a coronavirus as the cause of SARS,

> but have yet to publish full details. However, early work suggests the

virus

> is related to one that causes bronchitis in birds, including chickens...

 

Another link they are looking into:

" rey tiquia " <rey wrote:

 

Today's on-line issue of the Hongkong Chinese language daily Sing

Tao reported an interview with the head of the Chinese mainland

Centre for Disease Prevention and Control Mr. Hong Tao, which

revealed the results of forensic investigations on 5 bodies of people

who have suffered and eventually died from atypical pneumonia fei

dian xing fei yan .

 

Mr. Hong Tao revealed that the microorganism Chlamydia. had been

isolated from the lungs, liver, spleen and kidneys of the five

cadavers. The forensic investigation involved organ anatomical

dissection and the use of the electronmicroscope. This led Mr.

Hong Tao to conclude that aside from the corona virus Chlamydia. is

also involved. The report did not indicate when and specifically

where the forensic investigations were conducted.

 

Due to the fact that Chlamydia. contains RNA and DNA,

classification of the microorganism is still vague. Some experts

consider it to be a bacteria. The genus Chlamydia. divides into two

strains- Chlamydia. psittaci and Chlamydia. trachomatis. The first

strain is implicated as the cause of a type of atypical pneumonia

named psittacosis or parrot fever. Rey Tiquia Phd Candidate Dept.

of History and Philosophy of Science University of Melbourne Tel:

(03) 94991362

 

 

However, not everyone who has had Chlamydia. will get SARS.

 

We also need to put this into perspective: there is a very low mortality rate

3.8% now that earlier recognition of symptoms is in place. These are mostly

in the very young or elderly or those with concomitant weakened immune

systems.

 

From another list:

Fri 4 Apr 2003

Steve Berger <mberger

 

 

SARS - Deja vu ?

----------------

As SARS enters its fifth month, a number of questions remain unanswered.

Why Asia? Why now? Why young adults? To these I would add a fourth question

(Why the panic?) and a hypothesis.

 

Every 10 years or so, a pandemic spreads out from China and surrounding

countries. The 'Asian flu' of 1957 claimed 98 000 lives worldwide, and the

'Hong Kong flu' of 1968 an additional 45 000 lives. Although the world

community was rightly concerned, I do not recall a collapse of air travel,

imposition of quarantine, or daily front-page headlines. To date, SARS has

claimed 79 lives, and the etiological agent appears to be far less

contagious than Influenza A virus.

 

Current evidence suggests that new strains of Influenza A virus evolve as

recombinants when they pass between swine and ducks, a process favored by

close species proximity on Asian farms. Thus, I was surprised to learn in a

recent ProMed-mail posting that coronaviruses also exist in poultry and

swine, as well as cattle, cats, dogs, and rodents (see: Coronavirus,

Chicken, New - Brazil 20030403.0816). I do not know whether coronaviruses

are capable of recombination in the manner of influenza viruses, but such a

mechanism would partially explain the origin of SARS.

 

3 years ago, a 'new' human infection was described in the Netherlands. It

soon became evident that Human metapneumovirus [HMP] was neither new nor

exotic, and seems to have affected most humans in every country

investigated, going back decades. The clinical features of this infection

mimic those of Human respiratory syncytial virus, and infant deaths are not

uncommon. Indeed, it may well be that more people die of HMP than from SARS

each year. These facts only became evident when serological tests were

developed. I suspect that use of serological and other tests for SARS

developed over the next few weeks will reveal: (1) a high degree of

sero-positivity in the 'healthy' community of Asia, if not other countries;

and (2) the existence of an animal (Porcine? Avian?) reservoir.

 

During the H1N1 pandemic of 1977, there were suggestions that elderly

persons had a lower rate of complications than would be expected. It was

theorized that persons who had survived the prior H1N1 pandemic of 1918 had

retained partial immunity into old age. If, as noted above, background

immunity exists from a SARS outbreak several decades ago, relatively low

disease rates among the elderly during the current epidemic would not be

surprising. The fact that few children are affected is also not surprising,

when we recall that viral diseases (measles, varicella, poliomyelitis,

mumps) are often more overt and severe among adults.

 

--

Steve Berger

Tel Aviv Medical Center, Israel

<mberger

 

[steve Berger has posed some interesting questions and made some relevant

comments. My response is limited to consideration of the genetic

characteristics of coronaviruses. High frequency recombination is a

characteristic property of coronaviruses, and is probably restricted to

closely related coronaviruses. An example is Feline infectious peritonitis

virus, a coronavirus that exists as 2 serotypes and causes peritonitis,

pneumonia, meningoencephalitis, and other immunopathologic complications in

cats. Serotype 2 of feline infectious peritonitis virus appears to be a

recombinant virus incorporating genetic information from a canine

coronavirus, which causes diarrhea in dogs. The Serotype 2 virus, in

addition to causing peritonitis, etc., in cats can -- unlike Serotype 1 --

infect pups (but does not cause acute disease).

 

That said, it is not necessary to hypothesize origin of the putative

SARS-associated coronavirus by recombination with an animal or avian

coronavirus. There are many coronaviruses in the natural environment that

could become pathogenic in humans as a result of progressive mutation, or

perhaps have existed undetected.

 

The origin of pandemic influenza A viruses by " recombination " is an

entirely different process and can occur between dissimilar viruses. The

genome of influenza viruses exists as a complement of sub-units which can

be interchanged when genetically distinct viruses replicate in a common (or

intermediate) host, generating progeny with non-parental combinations of

genes (and potentially expressing novel combinations of antigens and

causing an explosive pandemic). Consequently there could be abundant

opportunity for exchange of sub-units between human and avian viruses where

humans, domesticated mammals, and birds live in close proximity. This is a

gross oversimplification, of course, but the origin of pandemic strains of

influenza A virus in east Asia in the past should not be used as an

argument favouring the origin of the SARS agent by recombination between a

human virus and an animal virus.

 

At this stage we simply do not know. Nor is it certain that the coronavirus

(and/or the human metapneumovirus) present in SARS patients is the

pathogenic agent. As Steve Berger points out, coronaviruses and

pneumoviruses are ubiquitous in the human population. Caution is required

in advancing hypotheses at this stage until more data become available. -

Mod.CP]

 

*****

[3]

5 Apr 2003

ProMED-mail <promed

Source:  CDC press briefing 4 Apr 2003 [excerpted and edited]

<<A

HREF= " http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/transcripts/t030404.htm " >http://www.cdc.gov\

/od/oc/media/transcripts/t030404.htm</A>>

 

 

 

Update on the ongoing laboratory investigation:

-----

CDC is part of an international collaborating network of laboratories led

by WHO. There are 12 laboratories and 10 companies participating in this

network.

 

Evidence for a previously unrecognized Coronavirus has been found now in

at least 10 laboratories, including the laboratories here at CDC. The

preponderance of the evidence continues to mount and continues to favor an

etiologic role or this previously unrecognized Coronavirus in the cause of

SARS.

 

So far, in looking at specimens from the suspect cases in the United

States, we now have evidence of infection with this agent in a total of 4

people, and we are working with the state health departments in the states

where these people reside, so that they are provided with the information

and they, in turn, will provide the clinicians and the patients with the

information.

 

We have cultured this Coronavirus from a total of 4 patients. We have

electron microscopic evidence from 2 patients of this virus. We have PCR

(Polymerase Chain Reaction) results -- , the amplification technique --

where we find evidence of Coronaviral nucleic acid in 11 patients.

 

Looking at the antibody tests, of which we have 2 --an IFA

[immunofluorescent antibody] test and Allose test -- there is evidence for

infection in a total of 5 patients. And from the standpoint of

histopathology, looking through the microscope at tissue from deceased

patients, we have seen evidence of an entity that the pathologist call

diffuse alveolar damage, which is the pathologic correlate for the clinical

syndrome of Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome, which has appeared in

patients with severe forms of SARS.

 

We have seen that evidence in a total of 4 specimens. Don't try to add those

numbers up and get a grand total because some patients, in some cases, have

more than one positive result.

 

[in response to a question on whether there were samples that tested

negative for coronavirus]:

 

There are negative results. I don't have numbers. For example though, when

you think about antibody tests, what you really need, [in order] to be able

to interpret those and to say that something's negative, is 2 serum

specimens collected 2 or 3 weeks apart. So any negative that we have now for

the most part represents a single serum that's negative. So we're not in the

position to say that evaluation is complete. Part of our effort now, working

with the states, is to get paired serum specimens from patients so they can

be tested.

 

[in response to a question re: the information that some of the earlier

cases had eaten wild game]:

 

[Dr. Hughes had not heard the reports about the wild game consumption.] But,

we don't know the source, the original source

of this previously unrecognized virus.  There are a number of Coronaviruses

that do infect animals, though. So it may well be  that there is an animal

origin for this, and it's the sequencing of the full virus that will tell us

this. So I'm interested actually to follow up and see what sort of wild game

this is and what the evidence might be.

 

[in response to the question if they have run the tests on controls] :

In terms of PCR, yes, we have negative controls that we run, both for the

PCR and for the serologic tests that we have done, and it looks like these

tests are performing quite well, but it is early in their use.

 

There are several diagnostic tests that look promising. There is the ELISA

test for antibody, there's the Indirect Fluorescent Antibody -- or IFA --

test, again, for antibody, and then there's a PCR assay [for viruses] that

look like they have

potential to be useful.

 

We will be collecting and testing as many specimens as we can acquire from

suspect cases, from health care workers exposed to them, from household

contacts, and from healthy controls over time to further validate them.

 

We are going to be trying very soon to transfer some of these tests to

state public health laboratories through the Laboratory Response Network so

we can get the diagnostics, such as they are at the moment, closer to where

the illnesses are occurring. So that's a high priority

 

[in response to the question on reports of the isolation of Chlamydia.]:

The outbreak in Guangdong Province initially was reported based on some lab

evidence that I don't know the details of, to be caused by _Chlamydia and

[sic] pneumoniae_. My impression is that they had relatively few positive

results for that. We certainly put _Chlamydia and [sic] pneumoniae_ on our

long list of differential diagnostic possibilities when we first heard about

the situation in Vietnam, Hong Kong and Canada. We, in our laboratories,

looked for evidence of _Chlamydia and [sic] pneumoniae_ infection in suspect

cases, and so far have not found it.

 

--

ProMED-mail

<promed

 

[The new information provided in this briefing from CDC is consistent with

the hypothesis that a novel (or perhaps previously unrecognized) human

coronavirus is the etiologic agent of SARS, either alone or in combination

with another agent still to be identified. The supporting evidence is far

from conclusive, however. If at the CDC only specimens from suspected cases

in the United States have been examined so far, an undetermined proportion

of whom may not be SARS patients, this would be a limitation.

 

The RT-PCR amplification of coronavirus sequences produced 11 positive

results and was the most sensitive diagnostic procedure employed, but even

with this technique an unspecified number of negative results was obtained.

The most encouraging result is successful propagation of virus from 2 of the

suspected SARS cases. This will allow the entire genome of the virus to be

sequenced and its phylogenetic position in the family _Coronaviridae_ to be

established. It will be possible then to deduce whether this virus is a new

human pathogen derived by recombination with an animal coronavirus, or

whether it has evolved by progressive mutation from either of the 2 known

human coronaviruses, which are associated with upper respiratory tract

infections, or from one of the known animal coronaviruses. It is curious

that a virus, which has such devastating pathological potential in some

people, is present in these specimens in such low abundance.

 

Specific antibodies were detected in five patients by ELISA and/or IFA

tests, but samples suitable for demonstrating seroconversion appear to have

been lacking. The response to the question on controls is confusing. It

should be a priority to extend these diagnostic procedures to a matched

series of non-SARS patients to exclude the possibility that this novel

human coronavirus is no more than a ubiquitous resident in the human

respiratory tract. Several respiratory viruses, such

as the common cold-associated coronaviruses and human respiratory syncytial

virus, are distributed world-wide and affect individuals of all ages.  At

the moment the single fact that best identifies this virus as the etiologic

agent of SARS is its apparent low nucleotide sequence homology with other

coronaviruses. - Mod.CP]

 

[see also:

SARS - worldwide (04): etiology  20030325.0737

SARS - worldwide (10): infectious disease perspectives 20030326.0752

SARS - worldwide (13): etiology  20030327.0758

SARS - worldwide (14): overview  20030327.0769

SARS - worldwide (16): etiology  20030328.0774

SARS - worldwide (19): etiology  20030330.0786

SARS - worldwide (26): etiology  20030403.0819

SARS - worldwide (28): overview  20030403.0822

Severe acute respiratory syndrome - Worldwide (02)...  20030315.0649

Severe acute respiratory syndrome - worldwide (17) 20030322.0713

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - Worldwide:alert      20030315.0637]

............................jw/mpp/cp/pg/jw

 

Be in health,

Sunny

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

thank you for the tip about the mushrooms!

should you ingest the entire portion immediately?

Peace, Jeff

 

> Something that works really well at the FIRST SIGN

> of illness is to keep

> dried Shitake mushrooms or Enoki mushrooms on hand.

> At the first sign of a

> respiratory or viral infection boil water and pour 1

> cup over one large or

> 2-3 small Shitake or a handful of Enoki mushrooms

> and let steep for 5

> minutes. You can add sweetener like honey if you

> like. Then take 2 cayenne

> pepper capsules cool cayenne is fine.

>

> The mushroom boosts the immune system the cayenne

> penetrates the outer

> membrane of the virus cell so the immune system can

> efficiently identify it

> and attack it.

>

> Clean your food well.

 

 

=====

Jeffrey E. Moeller

http://www.gbronline.com/jeffmoeller

 

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