Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 I had been thinking about the reason why too little exercise can lead to liver depression. My thought was that perhaps the qi stagnation that goes along with lack of exercise perhaps overwhelms the liver's capacity to spread it, causing the liver to weaken. Does that seem correct?? I had thought then, is the opposite was true? Does exercise strengthen the liver or stress it?? Is the liver responsible for the moving of the qi that exercise provides, (thus meaning that excess exercise would put a strain on the liver, as it struggles to keep up) or is it independent of the liver (meaning exercise would assist the liver in it's moving of qi, taking stress off of it and strengthening it)? Any information, or sources where I can further study, would be greatly appreciated. Mbanu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 " walmart_hurts " <jcc wrote: > I had been thinking about the reason why too little > exercise can lead > to liver depression. My thought was that perhaps the > qi stagnation > that goes along with lack of exercise perhaps > overwhelms the liver's > capacity to spread it, causing the liver to weaken. > Does that seem > correct?? I had thought then, is the opposite was > true? > > Does exercise strengthen the liver or stress it?? Is > the liver > responsible for the moving of the qi that exercise > provides, (thus > meaning that excess exercise would put a strain on > the liver, as it > struggles to keep up) or is it independent of the > liver (meaning > exercise would assist the liver in it's moving of > qi, taking stress > off of it and strengthening it)? > > Any information, or sources where I can further > study, would be greatly appreciated. > > Mbanu I haven't any sources, but my acupunturist told me that exercise would be good to get my stagnant Liver qi moving. Tai chi, yoga, walking... nothing strenuous. Though she didn't say *not* to do vigorous exercise. sue Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 In a message dated 24/03/2003 22:33:04 GMT Standard Time, subincor writes: > Now the liver: movement will help the liver, esp > liver qi stagnation, but if we have liver qi > congestion and we engage in frenetic, aggravating, > strenuous movement, then we will definitely support > the emotional component of the liver qi congestion, > and therefore deepen that pattern, whether or not we > break the congestion at the time of training. > I can vouch for that with my horse, and wish someone could have drummed it into the head of the TCM vet I tried to use. In athletic training in general, there is a difference between exercise, and work (or what we might call 'a work out' for humans). The performance of one promotes health, the other requires health to perform. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Hello! > > Does exercise strengthen the liver or stress it?? > > exercise would assist the liver in it's moving of > > qi, taking stress > > off of it and strengthening it)? > I haven't any sources, but my acupunturist told me > that exercise would be good to get my stagnant Liver > qi moving. Tai chi, yoga, walking... nothing > strenuous. Though she didn't say *not* to do > vigorous > exercise. I was ranting about this a couple of weeks ago... movement -consumes- qi, and non-movement -damages- it. Therefore we need a balance. Where that balance is depends on age, constitution, pattern, time of day and season etc. The best type of foundation exercise, from my understanding, is of the gentle, stretchy type with deep breathing. One can, if indicated, add heavier exercises on top of that. Now the liver: movement will help the liver, esp liver qi stagnation, but if we have liver qi congestion and we engage in frenetic, aggravating, strenuous movement, then we will definitely support the emotional component of the liver qi congestion, and therefore deepen that pattern, whether or not we break the congestion at the time of training. I hope that makes sense. See you, Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Oh ya, and so my final point si that: The liver spreads and flows the blood. Therefore, exercise suited to the liver also has the character of spreading and flowing. Ok, see you. Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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