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Susie,

 

Actually, the sources for all 3 people are the

original acupuncture texts-

I just find it laborious to type them all out.

 

Lei Jing Tu Yi

Pu Ji Fang

Qian Jin Yao Fang

Qian Jin Yi Fang

Shen Ying Jing

Yi Xue Gang Mu

Yi Zong Jin Jian Ci Jiu Xin Fa

Zhang Shi Yi Tong

Zhen Jiu Da Cheng

Zhen Jiu Da Quan

Zhen Jiu Feng Yuan

Zhen Jiu Jia Yi Jing

Zhen Jiu Ji Cheng

Zhen Jiu Quan Sheng

Zhen Jiu Zi Sheng Jing

 

Those are the books from Philippe's research-

I can ask Robert to quote his. Deadman's

are quoted in his book- also classic texts.

 

Susie, I think when you accuse someone of

being biased...

 

1. It's a personal attack

2. It's not saying much because no one is

totally objective

 

I'm just advocating that we attempt to get

some objectivity, isolate some of the many variable

at work in our practice, and get a more thorough

idea, and different views of what is going on so that

we can better serve our patients.

 

My bias is that I trust traditional sources more than

modern " made up " stuff- especially when that

made up stuff may be made up by someone without

a thorough understanding of the CM that has gone

before.

 

Philippe said he believes that our generation's job

(in the west) is to translate and to learn. He said he

thought it would be premature to innovate. I know

that's hard to avoid, because it's fun and it's hard to

not want to make your own mark on the medicine...

 

But the point is that there is a lot of CM that needs

to come through the sieve of translation... and some

of what we've had available to us is not jiving with

what other translators of CM find in the classic sources...

so we have to look at that and find out why.

 

Just because someone makes up something new doesn't

mean it's wrong- I just am more suspicious of it than

the CM that comes from sources hundreds or thousands

of years old.

 

That's my bias ;-)

 

B

 

 

 

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> Message: 5

> Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:37:04 -0000

> " Susie " <yinyang

> RE:Brians sources

>

> Brain said:

> My sources:

> 1. Philippe Sionneau lecture at Pac Symposium November 2002

> 2. Robert Chu (see my interview of him in Acu Today for more on him)

> 3. Peter Deadman's Manual of Acupuncture

>

> Susie: But what are their sources? Maybe it all comes from the same one

and

> maybe that person " made it up " . Its funny that you talk about scientific

> exploration and yet you may not be so rigorous yourself. You bias seems

> quite obvious to me having read your stuff around various email groups!

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