Post-prandial Liver wind?

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Jackie,

 

Since there are only 3 etiologies for internal wind...

xue xu, extreme heat (fire), and yang rising, the only

pathomechanism I can think of is:

 

Sp xu->Liv shi (qi yu)-> Liver fire -> Liver wind

Co-morbid empty heat could contribute

 

Amplification:

 

1. Eating when there is Spleen xu can lead to

food stagnation and exacerbate the Spleen xu-

taxing its diminished ability to transform food

 

2. The deficient Spleen can lead to Liver excess-

this is a 5 phase insight I didn't totally get until

I was studying for the CA boards- Even tho it

is the Metal (Lung) that controls the Wood (Liver),

An over-controlling relationship (which is shi of

controlling phase and xu of controlled phsae) can

begin with an excess or a xu, and lead to both-

that is, the xu Earth can inspire a shi Wood- haven't

gotten a lot of discussion from colleagues on this,

but a few of the Chinese-reading-ones have confirmed

the idea.

 

3. Liv qi yu-> Liver fire -> Liver wind

 

I think there would already have to be substantial

Liv qi yu and/or fire to create the wind. There could

be co-morbid empty Liv heat which might mean there

wouldn't have to be as much liver fire to create the wind.

That would also predispose to Liv yang rising-> wind...

 

It may also be possible that the Liv shi exacerbated by

the Sp xu could be the Liv yang rising, which then leads

to wind. This particular pathomech I am unsure of- I

believe that the variety of pathomechanisms in CM

is one area in which we English-speakers have not had

enough translation to know everything.

 

Of course, there is a larger question which I

am not qualified to answer- do the exact same

patterns and pathomechanisms hold for all

mammals?

 

B

 

 

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> Is there a TCM condition which manifests symptoms of liver wind after

eating

> (postprandial) does anyone know??

>

> Jackie

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