Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 Jackie, Great question- I'll tell you what I was taught, and what I've read. Liv qi yu can lead to Liv xue xu. Liv fire can burn the Liv yin. Liv yin xu can lead to Liv empty heat. There are herbs that are used to move the Liv qi without depleting the blood- mei gui hua, fo shou, and another one I forget. Chai Hu was considered (by Ye Tian shi was it?) to " plunder the yin. " That means that using it long-term to move the qi can deplete the yin. Qin Bowei wrote some great essays on the Liver and its treatment- you can get the book translated by Charles Chace... Qin Bowei said sour and sweet medicinals can either drain or supplement the Liver- but you drain or supplement based on the patterns. He emphasizes the flavors more than we do. He talks about emoliating (moistening) the Liver in cases where misuse of Liv qi moving herbs has damaging the Liver (xue or yin, I would assume). Keep in mind that the herbs that drain/clear liver heat (e.g. long dan cao, zhi zi, xia ku cao, etc.) are bitter and could injure the Spleen qi. Too much of that, and a deficient Spleen would invite attack by the Liver according to the 5 phases- so you'd end up with a Liver excess after trying to drain a Liver excess! You cannot throw away pattern differentiation and applying the right medicinals according to their functions without causing more disease. B Brian Benjamin Carter Editor, The Pulse of Oriental Medicine Columnist, Acupuncture Today The PULSE of Oriental Medicine: Alternative Medicine You Can Understand http://www.pulsemed.org/ The General Public's Guide to Chinese Medicine since 1999... 8 Experts, 100+ Articles, 115,000+ readers.... Our free e-zine BEING WELL keeps you up to date with the latest greatest PULSE articles. Sign up NOW. Send a blank email to: beingwellnewsletter- Message: 2 Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:46:28 EST jackiejataylor Liver treatments Of the possible liver syndromes - stagnation, yin deficiency, wind/fire, yang rising etc would any of them react badly to herbs meant for another liver syndrome? For instance, would herbs for liver qi stagnation worsen any or all other liver conditions? Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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