Re:Is there anything which might substitute for Ma Huang in Cold/Flu Formulas?

[Guest guest]

As someone who has hypothyroidism I am wondering if there is any herb which

may be substituted for Ma Huang in TCM formulas for colds/flu. I get sick

about every two years and when I do I get very sick. Most often my symptoms

are cold symptoms, so when I go to this traditionally oriented TCM

practitioner he always gives me Ma Huang, which I cannot tolerate except in

very small doses (Ma Huang overstimulates my central nervous system, creating

creeping feelings along the spine into the head, making the hair feel as if

it is standing on end). So without telling him I take most of it (but not

all of it) out of the formula, which probably makes the formula less

effective and allows things to drag on (also I am less likely to go back very

soon for more of the same when I do not recover completely). This is why I

am wondering if there is any herb I could keep on hand to substitute for the

Ma Huang?

 

This practitioner will not listen when I tell him I cannot use Ma Huang

because of my thyroid problem. I know I ought to find another practitioner,

but so far have not heard of anyone else who is thought very much of in my

area (nor is there anyone else who stocks fresh, bulk TCM herbs). This

practitioner is good, but unfortunately rather rigid in listening to what

patients say (if it does not agree with his agenda). Any suggestions or

insights about this would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Sarah

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are several herb that can substitute Ma Huang.

 

Gui zhi, Zi su ye, Sheng Jiang.

 

Those herbs can the substitute.

 

Jason Lee

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

bonmotSarah wrote:

>

> As someone who has hypothyroidism I am wondering if there is any herb which

> may be substituted for Ma Huang in TCM formulas for colds/flu.

 

There's a formula for the cold that is for people who are deficient such

as yourself. Its called Ren Shen Bai Du San. It isn't so much for Yang

(hypthyroidism) but for Qi. The two are closely related, so you still

might get some benefit from it. It has no Ma Huang in it.

 

-al.

 

--

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

[Guest guest]

--- bonmotSarah wrote:

 

> creating

> creeping feelings along the spine into the head,

> making the hair feel as if

> it is standing on end).

 

> This practitioner will not listen when I tell him I

> cannot use Ma Huang

> because of my thyroid problem.

 

Out of curiosity, have you mentioned the above plus

any other symptoms which you associate with the ma

huang? He should be modifying the formula according to

symptoms.

 

well, thxs, bye,

Hugo

 

 

 

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