Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 Excess Heat: Too many foods and herbs with warming thermal energy. Environmental temperature. Too many clothes. Qi Stagnation. Qi is by nature warm. Anytime there is a blockage of Qi, Heat can build up. (Even if the person is Qi Deficient.) Think of a wire which is too small for the amount of electricity it carries. In time the wire will become too hot and can even burn through. Phlegm definitely can block Qi flow. Certain pathogens (bacteria, viruses) also can trigger Heat. Deficiency Heat: Yin Deficiency. Yin cools, calms, and moistens. In cases of Yin Deficiency, aka Deficiency Heat, there is not enough Yin to cool the body properly. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 In a message dated 10/02/2003 13:14:31 GMT Standard Time, victoria_dragon writes: > Excess Heat: Too many foods and herbs with warming thermal energy. > Environmental temperature. Too many clothes. Qi Stagnation. Qi is by > nature warm. Anytime there is a blockage of Qi, Heat can build up. Ah, of course, makes sense! > > Deficiency Heat: Yin Deficiency. Yin cools, calms, and moistens. > In cases of Yin Deficiency, aka Deficiency Heat, there is not enough > Yin to cool the body properly. > Yes, I had that one on board!! So, in a case of spleen qi deficiency, that would make the liver excess, and if there were a blockage of qi (stagnation or phlegm), heat could build up there? And what if you had some mild liver excess, and tonified qi - could you also get the 'too much current for the wire' situation with heat building up? (in fact you'd be overloading the rheostat in that case wouldn't you!) That's what I think I see in my horse just now. We took him off the ayurvedic liver/digestive/all-round formula and put him on a qi tonic formula with a lot of digestive support. He was fine on that in terms of digestion, no gut disturbance or bad reaction at all - but slowly some kind of 'back-pressure/heat' seemed to be building up somwhere, and eventually it was all too much. Putting him back on the ayurvedic stuff as well helps him cope with the Qi tonics better - and incidentally makes their effects much more powerful. It seems it may be addressing many of the secondary symtoms of years of qi deficiency as well as liver function, doing some 'unblocking' somewhere along the line, as well as some cooling (It's ayurvedic energy is more cool than warm). I'll describe the whole experience one day - I've seen some fascinating effects from combining the two systems (not by choice!). Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 In a message dated 11/02/2003 23:00:15 GMT Standard Time, victoria_dragon writes: > It may be that some of the ayurvedic herbs are herbs that move Qi. > May well be, there are so many in there! But they are definately proven to optimise liver function, and I think there must be some cross-over there. The only three I can find that are also TCM are these: Eclipta - Han Lian Cao Properties: SWEET, SOUR -COOL Dosage: 9-15g. Meridian: KIDNEY, LIVER -liver/kidney Yin deficiency - -cools blood, stop Yin deficient bleeding- Terminalia chebula - He Zi Properties: BITTER, SOUR, ASTRINGENT - NEUTRAL Dosage: 3 - 9g. Meridian: LUNG, STOMACH, LARGE INTESTINE -binds intestines - -leakage of lung Qi - Andrographis Paniculata - Chuan Xin Lian Bitter, cold clear heat and toxins, cool blood, reduce swelling, relieve inflammation I might try to find out by a process of elimination one day - but it's hard to take him off something that makes him happy for the first time in years! Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 > And what if you had some mild liver excess, and tonified qi - could you also > get the 'too much current for the wire' situation with heat building up? (in > fact you'd be overloading the rheostat in that case wouldn't you!) Yes. Any time Qi Deficiency is diagnosed, also check for symptoms and signs of Qi Stagnation. Otherwise all that Qi you supplement is just going to be blocked too. I compare it to a hose with a blockage in it. If you force more water in without removing the blockage, the hose could burst behind the blockage. > That's what I think I see in my horse just now. We took him off the ayurvedic > liver/digestive/all-round formula and put him on a qi tonic formula with a > lot of digestive support. He was fine on that in terms of digestion, no gut > disturbance or bad reaction at all - but slowly some kind of > 'back-pressure/heat' seemed to be building up somwhere, and eventually it was > all too much. Putting him back on the ayurvedic stuff as well helps him cope > with the Qi tonics better - and incidentally makes their effects much more > powerful. It may be that some of the ayurvedic herbs are herbs that move Qi. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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