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Good Morning.

 

New to the group. I have sub-clinical hypothyroidism

 

symptoms:

-weight gain even during very healthy diets.

-feel tired.

-joint pain.

-mental fog.

-constipation after have been very regular.

and much others...

 

I am on levotiroxine 50 mcg a day

 

What is the interpretation of TCM about this thyorides

disfunction

 

As you can see english is not my native language, so ..

I ask for your well understaning.

 

I am glad being here.

 

Osvaldo.

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> New to the group. I have sub-clinical hypothyroidism

 

There are a lot of posts in the message base on hypothyroidism. Do a

search for hypothyroidism.

 

I have a history of hypothyrodism. The thyroid medication did not do

a good job of clearing up my symptoms. In my particular case I also

was Kidney Yang Deficient, and I needed Yang tonic herbs and herbs to

warm the interior before I got rid of many symptoms.

 

Another poster on here told of being Kidney Yang Deficient and not

getting full relief from it until she also was placed on thyroid

medication.

 

I suspect that some (not all) cases of hypothyroidism may need both

thyroid replacedment AND TCM to be successfully resolved.

 

> symptoms:

> -weight gain even during very healthy diets.

> -feel tired.

> -joint pain.

> -mental fog.

> -constipation after have been very regular.

> and much others...

 

BTW, pain in joints can be due to Wind-Cold-Damp invasion. People

who have been Kidney Yang Deficient for a long time can be very

suceptible to Exterior weather conditions.

 

Pain in general can point to Qi Stagnation. When Qi is blocked or

stagnates, pain can result.

 

Yin Deficiency can cause the pain threshold to be lowered.

 

A deficiency of the mineral magnesium also can cause the pain

threshold to be lowered. One way I know when I'm not getting enough

Mg is my pillow will feel hard and uncomfortable.

 

Victoria

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Hello Osvaldo,

 

Welcome to the group.

 

There have been discussions of thyroid and hypothyroid disease in the past on

this forum. I suggest you do a search on this forum for the old discussions

on this subject.

 

I have hypothyroid disease as well, and constipation was a real problem for

me until I supplemented with magnesium to bowel tolerance. I have tried many

TCM herbs for this problem, with professional help, but nothing touched this

problem until I started using magnesium. I did this by taking some until I

reached the point of diarrhea. Then I went down to a level where I go every

day but have no diarrhea. This will be different in every person. It has

made me much calmer too.

 

I hope that you will enjoy learning more about TCM here. I have found many

of the herbal formulas to have been health giving and some have even relieved

some of my hypothyroid symptoms.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sarah

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> http://www.itmonline.org/arts/thyroid.htm

 

Thanks, Jackie. This is an excellent article and very thorough.

 

" In one clinical report on hyperthyroidism [16], investigators

determined that the likely causative factors for the 110 patients

were: fright, depression, and mental irritability in 84 cases

(76.3%), infections in 12 cases, extreme fatigue in 9 cases, and

congenital problems in 6 cases. The 26 remaining cases were of

undetermined causality. The main cause-emotional distress-has an

effect of disturbing the qi. "

 

The Chinese have not studied hypothyroidism, but every time I have

developed thyroid problems, I have had a bout of mononucleosis

(glandular fever) or a mono-like illness and have been overworked. I

was hyperthyroid once, but all the other times I have been

hypothyroid.

 

Toward the end of the article, the author goes into vegetables from

the Brassica family suppressing thyroid function. This family

includes cabbage. I believe brocolli and brussel spounts also belong

to this family, but I could be mistakened.

 

Note where the author talks about hypothyroidism possibly being

underreported in China. What brought many of the recognized cases to

the attention of doctors is not the usual symptoms of hypothyroidism

(many of which are also symptoms of Kidney Yang Deficiency), but

chronic, low level bronchitis. There is a special case of Kidney

Yang Deficiency called Kidneys Refusing to Receive (or Grasp) Qi

(from the Lungs). A person suffering from Kidneys Refusing to Grasp

Qi will have breathing problems and will tend toward congestion in

the lungs and bronchials.

 

Victoria

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Victoria -

 

Brassica family

 

-mustard, rapeseed

 

Chinese Materia Medica

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~nsivin/mm.html

 

-kale, red cabbage, brussels sprouts, broccoli, savoy cabbage,

-radish, cauliflower and cabbage

 

HalvorsenJNutr2002.pdf

http://folk.uio.no/runeb/HalvorsenJNutr2002.pdf

 

I found those sources looking for anti-oxidants.

 

Regards

 

Peter

 

 

At 18:52 Uhr +0100 02.02.2003, victoria_dragon

<victoria_dragon >Toward the end of the article, the author

goes into vegetables from

>the Brassica family suppressing thyroid function. This family

>includes cabbage. I believe brocolli and brussel spounts also belong

>to this family, but I could be mistakened.

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