Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Hi Every one there, Well I am new to this group, I Joined this group primarily to seek advice and information possible treatment ( Natural Way) for a patient declared having Chronical Renal Failure. The patient had undergone two cycles of Classical Acupuncture and Sujok Acpuncture. At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and revive kidney function. I am desparately looking for possible medical help and advice. Any one having reliable information may kindly respond to my mail ID. With warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Dharmalingam M wrote: > At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune > of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. > > I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and > revive kidney function. I had a diabetic patient who's kidneys were going downhill. We used an herbal formula called Er Xian Tang (Two Immortals Decoction) as the base with some diuretics added to reduce the edema in the body. It helped, but he ultimately did have to still end up on dialysis. We were able to hold it off for about a year, actually. Not bad considering the doctor wanted it much earlier, but we were able to hold the Creatinine levels at about 6 which is, as I recall, the high end of normal. That doesn't mean that your patient will benefit from this particular formula. This one assumes a certain group of symptoms that all equate to a specific syndrome, in his case a deficiency of both Kidney yin and yang. That may not apply to your patient, so if you want to go herbal on this, you have my blessings, I've seen it help, but it would probably be a good idea for the patient to see someone in person so that a more complete diagnosis can take place which will help to ensure that he or she gets exactly what they need, rather than one my patient needed. -al. -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 For starters why are the kidney failing/imbalance. eg hormonal, injury ect. Dharmalingam M <mdl wrote:Hi Every one there, Well I am new to this group, I Joined this group primarily to seek advice and information possible treatment ( Natural Way) for a patient declared having Chronical Renal Failure. The patient had undergone two cycles of Classical Acupuncture and Sujok Acpuncture. At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and revive kidney function. I am desparately looking for possible medical help and advice. Any one having reliable information may kindly respond to my mail ID. With warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 For starters why are the kidney failing/imbalance. eg hormonal, injury ect. IS this person 50+ yrs. mitchell shelford <mytchell37 wrote: For starters why are the kidney failing/imbalance. eg hormonal, injury ect. Dharmalingam M <mdl wrote: Hi Every one there, Well I am new to this group, I Joined this group primarily to seek advice and information possible treatment ( Natural Way) for a patient declared having Chronical Renal Failure. The patient had undergone two cycles of Classical Acupuncture and Sujok Acpuncture. At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and revive kidney function. I am desparately looking for possible medical help and advice. Any one having reliable information may kindly respond to my mail ID. With warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 I have noticed that the points on the leg used to treat sciatica are also used to treat renal failure. There is a special point on the foot that can be touched or rubbed to help. Renal failure = leg points including one at the back of the knee. Agreement? mitchell shelford <mytchell37 wrote: For starters why are the kidney failing/imbalance. eg hormonal, injury ect. IS this person 50+ yrs. mitchell shelford <mytchell37 wrote: For starters why are the kidney failing/imbalance. eg hormonal, injury ect. Dharmalingam M <mdl wrote: Hi Every one there, Well I am new to this group, I Joined this group primarily to seek advice and information possible treatment ( Natural Way) for a patient declared having Chronical Renal Failure. The patient had undergone two cycles of Classical Acupuncture and Sujok Acpuncture. At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and revive kidney function. I am desparately looking for possible medical help and advice. Any one having reliable information may kindly respond to my mail ID. With warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Very kind of you for passing on the information, Thank you, Regards. Chinese Traditional Medicine , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > > > Dharmalingam M wrote: > > > At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune > > of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. > > > > I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and > > revive kidney function. > > I had a diabetic patient who's kidneys were going downhill. We used an > herbal formula called Er Xian Tang (Two Immortals Decoction) as the base > with some diuretics added to reduce the edema in the body. > > It helped, but he ultimately did have to still end up on dialysis. We > were able to hold it off for about a year, actually. Not bad > considering the doctor wanted it much earlier, but we were able to hold > the Creatinine levels at about 6 which is, as I recall, the high end of normal. > > That doesn't mean that your patient will benefit from this particular > formula. This one assumes a certain group of symptoms that all equate to > a specific syndrome, in his case a deficiency of both Kidney yin and > yang. That may not apply to your patient, so if you want to go herbal > on this, you have my blessings, I've seen it help, but it would probably > be a good idea for the patient to see someone in person so that a more > complete diagnosis can take place which will help to ensure that he or > she gets exactly what they need, rather than one my patient needed. > > -al. > -- > Al Stone L.Ac. > <AlStone@B...> > http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 I sent you info or requested info from you but I did not get a reply. What caused the kidneys to be imbalance. Was it an injury? did it just fail? is it hormonal? is it diet? Are you in NY NJ area? Dharmalingam M <mdl wrote: Hi Every one there, Well I am new to this group, I Joined this group primarily to seek advice and information possible treatment ( Natural Way) for a patient declared having Chronical Renal Failure. The patient had undergone two cycles of Classical Acupuncture and Sujok Acpuncture. At present, the patient has blood urea content to the tune of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. I am looking for any medicine that could bring down the above level and revive kidney function. I am desparately looking for possible medical help and advice. Any one having reliable information may kindly respond to my mail ID. With warm regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:06:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, Chinese Traditional Medicine writes: > Re: Can any one give suggestions for successful treatment on kidney failures I have seen a TCM herbal site which claims some success from some kidney patients who have used some of their formulas: One product is called Bath Detox (herbs are dissolved in the tub) Another is asparagus extract. The other two products listed for kidney are kidney chi and cordyceps. For the list of four formulas with more details go to this page. There is more information available in writing from these people, call for more information: http://www.chi-health.com/kidney-list.htm I am not connected to these people and have never used these particular products though my spouse has tried some of their products for another condition. I am thinking about the bath detox as I have edema that has never been helped by any of the TCM herbs I have tried in the past. Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 try this and it is good and decrease urea and creatinine and inform me with the resultsafter one month u will not belive ur self follow macrobiotic for ur case 1- stop all food clors and food additives completly 2- stop allbeverge and coca and even diet drinks all artificial drinks 3 stop any thing in cans only eat what is cooked at hom stop proceesed food stop whit flour completly and white sugar completly chew will the followin food and it is the food u can eat it whole wheat with millet as breakfast date as sweeet brown rice any amount u want and daily only brown whole rice and vegtables like squash and carrot daily onionn daily garlic daily cabbage daily the most important thing is to stop meat completly red chiken egg milk must be stoped one month completly even that 40 grm allowed animal protin u will get ur protin firstly from wheat rice millet vegtables temprarly eat one table soon of grinded flaxseed seed daily and 3 table spoon slighty roasted seasem daily dr one of the most important things is drinking warmbarely and eat it as wheat barely grass and wheat grass and alfa alfa grass hve the most strong power for healing all the idea is to correct the imbalnce and the acidosis in blood only by food bec if there is acidois( it is the main fatal cause of bad prognosis anf if not treateated nothing wil be corrected god help u and if u want to ask any u can send to my email the only protien allowed is aduke beans and u can eat white fish only once weekly at first try and u will surprise --- mitchell shelford <mytchell37 wrote: > > For starters why are the kidney failing/imbalance. > eg hormonal, injury ect. > > Dharmalingam M <mdl wrote:Hi Every one > there, > > Well I am new to this group, > > I Joined this group primarily to seek advice and > information possible > treatment ( Natural Way) for a patient declared > having Chronical Renal > Failure. > > The patient had undergone two cycles of Classical > Acupuncture and Sujok > Acpuncture. At present, the patient has blood urea > content to the tune > of 340 mg% and Serum Creatinine of 17.9 mg%. > > I am looking for any medicine that could bring down > the above level and > revive kidney function. > > I am desparately looking for possible medical help > and advice. > > Any one having reliable information may kindly > respond to my mail ID. > > > With warm regards. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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