Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 > > > > Digest Number 733 >11 Oct 2001 16:01:41 -0000 > >Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > >------ > >There are 10 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Pennsylvania > "Alfred Russo" > 2. Re: áòðééï: tinitus > Jeansu > 3. Re: Pennsylvania > Cara Frank > 4. Introduction > Suzy Tapper > 5. Re: Re: Anthrax > "Bob Xu" > 6. LYME DISEASE-RFI > acugirlnyc > 7. Re: Anthrax > "James Ramholz" > 8. Re: LYME DISEASE-RFI > Jeansu > 9. Re: LYME DISEASE-RFI > "Mark Reese" > 10. Re: LYME DISEASE-RFI > pemachophel2001 > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:32:18 > "Alfred Russo" >Re: Pennsylvania > > > > > > >"Alfred Russo" > > > > > > Pennsylvania > >Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:17:33 > > > >Hello Does Cara Frank or anyone else in PA know what is required as far as > >clean needle technique? It says in the application that a clean needle > >technique class in school which I had taken at PCOM. But do you still need > >to take the National Clean Needle Tech exam in the state of Pennsylvania? > > > >Thank-you, > > > >Fred > > > >_______________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >The National Board requires the CNT exam! GOT IT, >Thank-you >Fred > >_______________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:21:18 +0800 (CST) > Jeansu >Re: áòðééï: tinitus > >Hi,Boaz, > >tinitus= er ming >Thank you! >Although I didn't know the word "tinnitus",I can still >guess the patient got ear ming symptom because you >mentioned "rining". > >I recheck the TCM book,I still think the patient's >situation just like what I was saying.And ,I also >wonder he might got liver disease,like mild liver >cirosis,I might mis-spelling this word(liver cell turn >hard).So,his liver yin and kindey yin extreme not >enough,and,turned into fire. > >After the fire is down,you might try to tonic the Yin >from lung ,liver and kidney. > >Lung:Be-Sa-Sen Mai-Men-Ton and others. >Yee-Guan-Jen(herbal formula) also can be consider,too. > >Acupuncture might be not quite useful because tinnitus >patient is lake of kindey Yin-liquid,which is equal to > >not enough normal kindey Qi.While you doing acupunture >,you need Qi feeling,or reenforce Qi by needdle to >make sure you punch the correct points.If patient who >don't have enough Qi,Acupucture might not work as >usual. > >Ancient TCM dorcotr use both Herbal medicine and >acupucture to cure people,not seperate it. > >If people's kindey Yin fluied is enough,maybe the >Tinnitus will gone. > >Jean > > > > > > > > > >===== > > >-- >< ºô ¸ô ¥Í ¬¡¡EºÉ ¦b ©_¼¯ > http://www.kimo.com.tw > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 3 > Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:39:38 -0400 > Cara Frank >Re: Pennsylvania > >on 10/10/01 6:17 PM, Alfred Russo at russoshen wrote: > > > Hello Does Cara Frank or anyone else in PA know what is required as far as > > clean needle technique? It says in the application that a clean needle > > technique class in school which I had taken at PCOM. But do you still need > > to take the National Clean Needle Tech exam in the state of Pennsylvania? > > > > Thank-you, > > > > Fred > > > > _______________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > PA only registers acupuncturists at this time. You can register if you are >NCCAOM certified and have a supervising physician. So, therefore, you've >already passed the clean needle course- so no problemo. contact me if you >come to PA. I'm still the secretary for ASOP for 2 more months. > >-- >Cara > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 4 > Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:23:22 +1200 > Suzy Tapper >Introduction > >Qualifications : >Diploma of Traditional > >Professional Activities: >Lecturer & clinical supervisor: >Faculty of Acupuncture, Christchurch College of Holistic Healing > >Private practice: >Sumner, Christchurch, NZ > >Southern representative on the executive for the New Zealand Register of >Acupuncturists > >1994 - 2001 > Private practice, New Zealand > >1993 ? 1994 > Full time private practice, Kamloops, BC, Canada > >Education: >1990 ? 1993 >Dip TCM, Canadian College of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine, Victoria, >British Columbia, Canada > >1985 >Full pass, 1st year pharmacy, Central Institute of Technology, NZ > >Professional Membership: >New Zealand Register of Acupuncturists >Accident Compensation Corporation treatment provider > >Accreditation: >National Diploma of Acupuncture, NZQA (New Zealand) > > > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 5 > Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:46:21 +0000 > "Bob Xu" >Re: Re: Anthrax > > > >"James Ramholz" wrote: > > >What I was proposing earlier was an observation based of a common > >pattern found at various stages in HIV/AIDS patients. My notion was > >that by utilizing 5-Phases we can chart the course of a pathogen in a > >healthy person to help describe the etiology that typically happens, > > >I agree with you that in the case of HIV infection, there are some typical >patterns (although still varies for different patients) to follow. But at >the AIDS stage, it's inappropriate to get a general pattern. The latter is >a syndrome, and one had better treat the patient individually. I had a >paper (in Chinese, published in the Proceeding of China TCM Society, Dalian >Conference last year) which described the HIV/AIDS classification in TCM. > >Bob > >_______________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 6 > Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:22:56 EDT > acugirlnyc >LYME DISEASE-RFI > >Hello All! > >Was hoping someone had information on acupuncture and herbs and Lyme disease. Have a patient in his 6th month of AB, with MDs still thinking there's lyme in his body. Suffers from panic attacks (onset 3 mos), depression, terrible neck stiffness and upper back stiffness/sensitivity, and night sweats. > >If anyone has links or books that might have information, that'd be wonderful. > >Thanks for your help > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 7 > Thu, 11 Oct 2001 05:14:34 -0000 > "James Ramholz" >Re: Anthrax > >, "Bob Xu" wrote: > > I agree with you that in the case of HIV infection, there are some >typical > > patterns (although still varies for different patients) to follow. >But at > > the AIDS stage, it's inappropriate to get a general pattern. The >latter is > > a syndrome, and one had better treat the patient individually. I >had a > > paper (in Chinese, published in the Proceeding of China TCM >Society, Dalian > > Conference last year) which described the HIV/AIDS classification >in TCM. > > >I was trying to describe both the energetic pattern during the >latency period as well as an individual's symptomology during the >syndrome, by using the pulses as the central means of diagnosis. But >doing it only in terms of 5-Phases; it doesn't preclude you from >doing in in the TCM way. The Mai Jing underscores the importance of >the pulses as a system of diagnosis, and underscores the importance >of tracking a disorder even before overt signs and symptoms arise. >The Mai Jing, in the chapter on death pulses, gives extreme examples >of 5-Phase interactions particular to the pulses. Most importantly in >that chapter it says that when the pulse is diseased but the person >is not diseased, "it presages death." And, when the person is >diseased but the pulse is not diseased, "this is life" (or, more >accurately, they are getting better). > >Jim Ramholz > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 8 > Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:26:33 +0800 (CST) > Jeansu >Re: LYME DISEASE-RFI > >Hi, acugirl, > >Your information is not quite enough.It had better >provide as a case report.The more information you >provide,the more advice will come. > >Please type whole diagnosis of the disease. >Thank you very much. > >Jean > >===== > > >-- >< ºô ¸ô ¥Í ¬¡¡EºÉ ¦b ©_¼¯ > http://www.kimo.com.tw > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 9 > Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:24:44 -0500 > "Mark Reese" >Re: LYME DISEASE-RFI > >The Institute for Traditional Medicine produced a report on Lyme Disease >about 6 months ago, or so. If you don't to their quarterly >reports, you are truly missing out on a terrific source of info. > >www.itmonline.org > >Mark Reese >- > > >Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:22 PM > LYME DISEASE-RFI > > > > Hello All! > > > > Was hoping someone had information on acupuncture and herbs and Lyme >disease. Have a patient in his 6th month of AB, with MDs still thinking >there's lyme in his body. Suffers from panic attacks (onset 3 mos), >depression, terrible neck stiffness and upper back stiffness/sensitivity, >and night sweats. > > > > If anyone has links or books that might have information, that'd be >wonderful. > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare >practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing >in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, >including board approved online continuing education. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 The average client has no idea of what any of these therapies are and would be too bored to listen if you explained, and the average client knows more about them than his congressman or mayor!!!! The Associations make it up as they go along... jin shin do is an asian therapy per aobta but its parent jin shin jitsu and sister reiki are not " tcm enough " to be considered as asian therapies even if they are asian and the are therapies .... might we not all get together to GET clients rather than getting together to say who ought not to have clients , who is educated enough, who is not.... I was offered a life long membership in aobta for several hundred dollars but am not considered tcm enough to go beyond a student membership in aobta...and am not allowed to stay a student member...I have been in practice longer than many members.... and this is or was my only option... Do these guys have any business helping to make laws???? In a country that has awful murder rate,people starving,and mental patients wandering around untreated in the streets do we really need to run out and protect the public from the horrors of bad shiatsu?? Please!!!! --- Chinese Traditional Medicine wrote: > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: > Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > ------ > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. regulation [was Re: Digest Number 729] > " Penel Eynde LeGrand > <penel " <penel > 2. Re: Digest Number 732 > florickflo > 3. Re: Digest Number 732 > KarateStan > 4. Re: Digest Number 732 > SacredQi888 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:24:19 -0000 > " Penel Eynde LeGrand <penel " > <penel > regulation [was Re: Digest Number 729] > > <snip> > > Regulation is a good way to provide jobs to the > > children and friends of present bureaucrats.. no > one > > is forcing anyone to use any alternative > treatments- > > as far as I know- and I am sure that far more > people > > using western medicine in the Americas die each > year > > than those who are use acupuncture. > > Regulation is a hot topic with body workers. > > Illinois is in the process of getting a new massage > therapy law and I > was quite concerned that the qualifications of my > occupation, shiatsu > therapy, were going to be dictated by a bunch of > Western massage > therapists. > Of course it would be tax greedy politicians who > would have control > over the bill but it was the AMTA that was doing the > loudest lobbying > for what would be in it. > > What ultimately happened was all the organizations > representing all > the other approaches to touch therapy woke up, > joined forces and got > us " other " therapies excluded from the law. > As the new law will stand, as long as a practitioner > can be recognized > as qualified by an organization representing that > particular touch > therapy as listed in the bill, we would not be > judged by massage > therapy standards but by what ever kind of therapy > we were recognized > at. > <whew!> > (Its been a long day. I hope I said that all > clearly.) > > An added plus in this is, a massage therapist who > takes a 14 hour > weekend class in shiatsu will have to jump through > the same hoops I > (with my 500+ hours in nothing but Asian bodywork > studies) to be > recognized by the AOBTA (who represent shiatsu). > For those who have not attended an AOBTA recognized > school part of > this is done by taking the NCCAOM exam for Asian > Body Work Therapies. > > The NCE (National Certification Exam) they judge > massage therapists by > might have been a breeze for me, but I can guarantee > the 6 hour long > exam set up by the NCCAOM will keep the uneducated > from claiming they > have an education in Asian bodywork. > > When the law goes into practice in Illinois the only > people who can > list an Asian bodywork therapy on their > advertisement/card will be > people who can back the statement up with > credentials. > > A massage therapist might use Asian theories or > techniques in their > practice but they will not be able to advertise > themselves as a > practitioner of those therapies without proving > their knowledge to the > organization setting the standards of those > therapies. > > Penel > wondering how many ways she needs to say something > to have it make > sense after a very long day > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:44:13 EST > florickflo > Re: Digest Number 732 > > In a message dated 1/12/2003 11:33:01 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > Chinese Traditional Medicine writes: > > > the future that > > has anyone heard anything aboout the herb > " jiaogulan? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:20:12 EST > KarateStan > Re: Digest Number 732 > > In a message dated 1/12/03 8:45:41 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > florickflo writes: > > > has anyone heard anything aboout the herb > " jiaogulan? > > > > JIAOGULAN > (Gynostemma pentaphyllum) > > > Jiaogulan - China's " Immortality Herb " - is > traditionally used to: > > regulate blood pressure > support a healthy cholesterol balance > > support cardiovascular function > > support the body's natural adrenal process > > support the body's healthy immune system > > > Stan Swihart A.P., DOM > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:44:05 EST > SacredQi888 > Re: Digest Number 732 > > In a message dated 1/12/03 8:45:48 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > florickflo writes: > > === message truncated === ===== Knowing others is wisdom, knowing your self is Enlightenment. - Lao-Tzu Mail Plus - Powerful. 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Hello Everyone, My name is Yolanda and I'm new to the group. I am just learning about making soaps and other toiletries. I would like to add to my knowledge of herbs and oils. I do have one question : Is the rose petal jam edible? wrote:How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To Un send a blank e-mail to: - ------ There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. MY LAVENDER FARM trendsjody 2. Re: MY LAVENDER FARM " WLinda/www.lillizard.com " ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:52:48 EST trendsjody MY LAVENDER FARM is in Ohio, Streetsboro to be exact. It's between Kent and Cleveland. We won't be having visitors until next year since we're doing The Big Planting this spring ... 1,000 lavender plants!! Not to mention the dried flowers seeding. It's easy to talk about it in Winter when the work is several months away but I know it will be killer when we really do it. We're inviting/pleading with all our green thumb relatives to come help .... sort of a family plant! Jody ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:15:56 -0800 " WLinda/www.lillizard.com " Re: MY LAVENDER FARM And have the Aspirin, ice packs and hot packs ready. I remember the aches and pains from long days planting Linda http://www.lillizard.com/Supplies.html Check out the great deals! - trendsjody Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:52 AM MY LAVENDER FARM is in Ohio, Streetsboro to be exact. It's between Kent and Cleveland. We won't be having visitors until next year since we're doing The Big Planting this spring ... 1,000 lavender plants!! Not to mention the dried flowers seeding. It's easy to talk about it in Winter when the work is several months away but I know it will be killer when we really do it. We're inviting/pleading with all our green thumb relatives to come help .... sort of a family plant! Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Hi all and Hi Antillio I am Hong Mei from China. One friend and I want to start a newspaper in English, and It will contain mainly articles from chinese ancient and modern books and from famous doctors in China. I will in charge of the edit of chinese articles and translation. Acupuncture: case study and basic theory and clinical experiences of some good doctors. massage; still no idea, internal medicine: same to acupuncture, basic theory phylosophy and diagnostics: I am good at pulse literature and the basic techniques, and other diagnostic theory and skills, so I will try to tell how to make a syndrome differentiation. history of pulse feeling , how can make it better, and other details of how to feel pulse better. ear auricular diagnosis, and others. ancient books: to invite some good experts or translate some good articles from the most basic ancient chinese medical books and other books. especially related to clinical practise or have significant implication to the clinical practise. and also ancient case studies with good explanation. some articles about qi gong, diet therapy and so on. Give me some suggestions, what do you want. The first few volumes will be free. and hope you will support my work. yours sincerely Hong Mei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Hi Hong Mei, > > The first few volumes will be free. and hope you will support my work. > > yours sincerely Hong Mei I and my colleagues are most interested in classical tuina and qigong practices in China. I am very much looking forward to reading your newsletter and I hope to be one of your first rs. Best of luck with this new endeavor. Regards, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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