Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Hello, I'm new and would like to make my presence known. My inspiration to join this group is a result of my taking a course in Shiatsu (only 120hrs of it, however) at my school. I am obtaining a licensure for massage therapy in NYS. Although my class is over, I found it refreshing to be in a learning environment that agreed with my own sense of how to heal-- holistically-- as my own personal health ordeal and the process within that... to wellness... is what brought me to the profession of massage... the basic theories of Oriental Med., from what I have learned so far, inspires me to want to learn more... delve further. Thanks, Heidi Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 > Although my class is over, I found it refreshing to be > in a learning environment that agreed with my own > sense of how to heal-- holistically-- as my own > personal health ordeal and the process within that... > to wellness... is what brought me to the profession of > massage... the basic theories of Oriental Med., from > what I have learned so far, inspires me to want to > learn more... delve further. Hi Heidi, Welcome to Chinese Traditional Medicine. You may want to do a search in the message base for massage and acupressure. The earliest posts in the message group are the most basic and will walk those new to TCM through the basics. Some students use them for review. You might also want to check out the acupressure.com website and Michael Reed Gach's Acupressure's Potent Points. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 > The earliest posts in the message group are the most basic and will > walk those new to TCM through the basics. Some students use them for > review. > Victoria Great advise! These first messages are of great help. They are telling me things that I just started to learn. Thanks Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Victoria - I bought Gach's book, but he is a bit terse about prostate problems. His acupoints are also not the same as e.g. at http://med.stanford.edu/~ktboyd/acupressure/acupoints.html I know I should have a more holistic approach, but I want to solve this problem before I fully understand TCM (if ever,-). Regards Peter At 15:18 Uhr +0100 05.12.2002, victoria_dragon wrote: >You might also want to check out the acupressure.com website and >Michael Reed Gach's Acupressure's Potent Points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 > I bought Gach's book, but he is a bit terse about prostate problems. > His acupoints are also not the same as e.g. at > http://med.stanford.edu/~ktboyd/acupressure/acupoints.html There are different acupoints that can be used. His headache chapter didn't list the points that help me, but I already had stumbled onto one (didn't know it was an acupoint at the time - just discovered that the heating pad over that area relieved the headache even though it was right below my waist) and used 5 Element Theory to figure out the other main point that helps me. > > I know I should have a more holistic approach, but I want to solve > this problem before I fully understand TCM (if ever,-). Do you know your TCM diagnosis? That would help a lot. Western-defined medical conditions rarely correspond to TCM syndromes. For example, asthma can have one or more of several TCM Roots. What helps one asthmatic may do nothing for a second and may make a third asthmatic sicker becaues the Roots are different. One clue that can help is if a part of your body is sore. When there are problems, sometimes one or more acupoints will be sensitive. I didn't have to press on the one on my back right below the waist to know it was sore because it hurt without any pressure on it. Some sore points I've discovered in the course of massage. I can't tell they are sore until I press on them. Another clue can be if the course of a meridian is cold, hot, numb, discolored, etc. That's how I realized where to look for the other main acupoint that helped the headaches so much. The side of my hand (little finger side, top edge of hand) was cold. This is the Small Intestine meridian 5 Element Theory told me which point to try, and it worked. Victoria > > > > Regards > > Peter > > > At 15:18 Uhr +0100 05.12.2002, victoria_dragon wrote: > >You might also want to check out the acupressure.com website and > >Michael Reed Gach's Acupressure's Potent Points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 About Gach; <snip> > His acupoints are also not the same as e.g. at > http://med.stanford.edu/~ktboyd/acupressure/acupoints.html You'll also find variation's in where the points might be between various Chinese, Korean and Japanese systems. For me, yes it helps to know where the point should be by measurements of its relationship to bones and mucles (that's what you write on the exam), but I know if I have the point by what I feel at it. It works this way for me with Meridians also. Penel who does shiatsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Hello, I am also new to the group. I've been looking into TCM and trying to find a practioner in my area. Does anyone know if it is safe to take the Chinese herbs without an expert? I've been reading a little, but not sure how many to take and what kinds. thanks cindy Heidi <pvl_h wrote:Hello, I'm new and would like to make my presence known. My inspiration to join this group is a result of my taking a course in Shiatsu (only 120hrs of it, however) at my school. I am obtaining a licensure for massage therapy in NYS. Although my class is over, I found it refreshing to be in a learning environment that agreed with my own sense of how to heal-- holistically-- as my own personal health ordeal and the process within that... to wellness... is what brought me to the profession of massage... the basic theories of Oriental Med., from what I have learned so far, inspires me to want to learn more... delve further. Thanks, Heidi Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 cec pet wrote: > > Hello, I am also new to the group. > I've been looking into TCM and trying to find a practioner in my area. > Does anyone know if it is safe to take the Chinese herbs without an expert? > I've been reading a little, but not sure how many to take and what kinds. > thanks cindy Most are okay, some you need to be careful with. Do you have a particular formula in mind? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 >Most are okay, some you need to be careful with. Hi Al, Wow...that's not what they're teaching us these days. I'd say the above statement would be reversed....unless maybe with patents. ....that a person should be properly diagnosed and re-evaluated for a possible formula tweaking as might be indicated. Kit > > > I've been looking into TCM and trying to find a practioner in my area. > > Does anyone know if it is safe to take the Chinese herbs without an expert? > > I've been reading a little, but not sure how many to take and what kinds. > > thanks cindy > > Most are okay, some you need to be careful with. > > Do you have a particular formula in mind? > > -- > Al Stone L.Ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 I was responding the question of safety, not efficacy. I agree with you in regards of efficacy. : ) -al. Kit wrote: > > >Most are okay, some you need to be careful with. > > Hi Al, > Wow...that's not what they're teaching us these days. > I'd say the above statement would be reversed....unless > maybe with patents. > ...that a person should be properly diagnosed and re-evaluated > for a possible formula tweaking as might be indicated. Kit > > > > > > I've been looking into TCM and trying to find a practioner in my area. > > > Does anyone know if it is safe to take the Chinese herbs without an > expert? > > > I've been reading a little, but not sure how many to take and what kinds. > > > thanks cindy > > > > Most are okay, some you need to be careful with. > > > > Do you have a particular formula in mind? > > > > -- > > Al Stone L.Ac. > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 I, too, was speaking of safety.....hmmm, kit :-) At 10:09 AM 12/6/02 -0800, you wrote: > > I was responding the question of safety, not efficacy. > > I agree with you in regards of efficacy. : ) > > -al. > > Kit wrote: > > > > >Most are okay, some you need to be careful with. > > > > Hi Al, > > Wow...that's not what they're teaching us these days. > > I'd say the above statement would be reversed....unless > > maybe with patents. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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