excessive talking

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The person may be nervous, or (as I've had in some cases) doesn't get a chance

to talk to people (lives by themselves or with others who don't listen), or that

could just be their nature. Talkative. <G>

 

One way to refocus the session (example - accupunture) is to ask them to FEEL

the energy, and see if they can sense the flow through their body. It helps

them to realize there is a flow of energy, and also to help them find it.

 

Hope this helps.

Judy Di Canio (who has several of this type of client)

http://wwww.frequencybalancing.com

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Chinese Traditional Medicine, " reiki_now " <reiki_now> wrote:

> I have a client who has problems with talking... he goes on and on

> and says it is very hard for him to stop. WHATS UP WITH ALL THIS

> WIND???

> ANY IDEAS?

> I DO NOT DO diagnosis it is outside my scope...somebody buddy hep me

 

Would you also like some help with laying the foundation for one day

being able to diagnose some? Very basic things. Observe all you can,

and list the symptoms and signs here. Pay attention to any color

tones in the complexion, in the tongue, etc. Is the voice strong or

weak? Are movements and speech quick or slow? Anything else that

caught your attention?

 

But only if you want to.

 

Victoria

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> " reiki_now " <reiki_now

> I have a client who has problems with talking... he goes on and on

> and says it is very hard for him to stop. WHATS UP WITH ALL THIS

> WIND???

> ANY IDEAS?

> I DO NOT DO diagnosis it is outside my scope...somebody buddy hep me

>

 

It most likely is a combination of heart anxiety expressing through the

bladder meridian.The restlessness comes from the heart. It would help to

stabilize and ground the stomach and gall bladder channels.

Ed

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I remember one of my first year instructors saying that excess talking

was Spleen related. I checked a few books and couldn't find

anything. Does anyone know of/recall a connection?

Kit

 

 

At 02:19 PM 11/8/02 +0000, you wrote:

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine, " reiki_now " <reiki_now> wrote:

> > I have a client  who has problems with talking... he goes on and on

> > and says it is very hard for him to stop. WHATS UP WITH ALL THIS

> > WIND???

> > ANY IDEAS?

> > I DO NOT DO diagnosis it is outside my scope...somebody buddy hep me

>

> Would you also like some help with laying the foundation for one day

> being able to diagnose some? Very basic things.  Observe all you can,

> and list the symptoms and signs here. Pay attention to any color

> tones in the complexion, in the tongue, etc.  Is the voice strong or

> weak? Are movements and speech quick or slow? Anything else that

> caught your attention?

>

> But only if you want to.

>

> Victoria

>

>

>

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I'd look at the heart first too, as Brian mentioned earlier.

 

Also, this person may be expressing a deficiency of sorts. Some people

can really grab a lot of qi from you in the form of your attention.

 

Here's an article that kind of describes that:

http://dir.salon.com/health/feature/2000/10/30/vampires/index.html

 

Kit wrote:

>

> I remember one of my first year instructors saying that excess talking

> was Spleen related. I checked a few books and couldn't find

> anything. Does anyone know of/recall a connection?

> Kit

>

> At 02:19 PM 11/8/02 +0000, you wrote:

> >

> > Chinese Traditional Medicine, " reiki_now " <reiki_now> wrote:

> > > I have a client  who has problems with talking... he goes on and on

> > > and says it is very hard for him to stop. WHATS UP WITH ALL THIS

> > > WIND???

> > > ANY IDEAS?

> > > I DO NOT DO diagnosis it is outside my scope...somebody buddy hep me

> >

> > Would you also like some help with laying the foundation for one day

> > being able to diagnose some? Very basic things.  Observe all you can,

> > and list the symptoms and signs here. Pay attention to any color

> > tones in the complexion, in the tongue, etc.  Is the voice strong or

> > weak? Are movements and speech quick or slow? Anything else that

> > caught your attention?

> >

> > But only if you want to.

> >

> > Victoria

> >

> >

> >

>

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It most likely is a combination of heart anxiety

expressing through the<BR>

bladder meridian.The restlessness comes from the

heart. It would help to<BR>

stabilize and ground the stomach and gall bladder

channels.<BR>

 

He Ed, I was wondering if you could please explain how

you came to you diagnosis and treatment plan for me

Thankyou :-)

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> angie LeDan <chamique1

> --- Ed Lambert <moonlava wrote:

> It most likely is a combination of heart anxiety

> expressing through the<BR>

> bladder meridian.The restlessness comes from the

> heart. It would help to<BR>

> stabilize and ground the stomach and gall bladder

> channels.<BR>

>

> He Ed, I was wondering if you could please explain how

> you came to you diagnosis and treatment plan for me

> Thankyou :-)

> chamique1

 

Stomach and gall bladder contain heart restlessness. Theyhelp the restless

rising of Yang type Qi to descend into

the lower Yin part of the body. They grab restless heart

Qi and carry it below.

Gall bladder deficiency can show as low self-confidence.

Stomach deficiency can show as desperation and

falling apart. These signs bring up the restlessness in

the heart to try to do something about it.

It can come through as not-talking and talking a lot.

You would probably find that the person has moments

in their life when they shut out the world and don't want

to talk to anyone.

Ed

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Chinese Traditional Medicine, " reiki_now " <reiki_now> wrote:

> I have a client who has problems with talking... he goes on and on

> and says it is very hard for him to stop. WHATS UP WITH ALL THIS

> WIND???

> ANY IDEAS?

> I DO NOT DO diagnosis it is outside my scope...somebody buddy hep me

 

ok.

What's up? Its not that easy to explain. Could be too much energy in

Heart (yin Fire) but since diagnosis is outside your scope of

practice, what difference would it make to have this sort of

information?

 

Do your Reiki where scanning tells you to and keep in mind that all

Meridians connect at some point.

What you are doing might not by TCM theory be the most efficient use

of energy but so what.

 

Since you've mentioned the talking, I have a gut feeling that whatever

is causing the chatter could be influencing your own energy during the

session.

There are Reiki ways to protect yourself from this.

I imagine there are Reiki lists to get an official reiki answer.

 

For a beginning shiatsu student who knows next to nothing about

diagnosis (while they still focus on getting their own body to

respond to the craft) there are arbitrary ways (short of using a sock

and some duck tape) to deal with a client's nonstop talking during a

shiatsu session.

 

1. Ask the receiver to please be quiet so you can concentrate.

 

Since you've already let them experience talking during a session,

tell them you are going to take THIS session to a higher level and

really need them to be verbally quiet.

 

or

2. Ask the receiver to lie supine and put a flax seed eye pillow over

their eyes.

 

eyes; Wood.

Wood feeds Fire. (Fire = Heart)

 

3. Ask the receiver to lie supine, put a piece of cloth like a

handkerchief over their face and put a flax seed eye pillow over their

eyes.

 

and all the while, ask the receiver to focus on their breath all the

way down to their abdomen, prolonging the exhale longer than their

inhale (kicking in their parasympathetic nervous system).

They could either put their own hands on their abdomen to " watch " how

their breath fills the area or put a buckwheat hull pillow on their

abdomen so they feel a resistance to aim the breath into.

 

Breath loudly with them (not only to synchronize with them but to

help them feel less like an idiot following the suggestion).

 

4. Ask the receiver to lie prone (face down into the cradle of your

table).

 

Its harder for them to talk with their face in a face cradle.

Its easier to not hear what they are verbally saying if they a

talking to the floor.

 

Some hatha yoga traditions use a pillow of rice at the abdomen while

lying in prone to get the practitioner to focus on hara while

breathing.

 

If touching the receiver's body isn't beyond Reiki scope of practice.

5. before you scan, hold the receiver's feet.

6. before you scan, hold the receiver's feet with your thumbs touching

at Kidney # 1.

 

6+. Go in deeply at Kidney #1 then back off until you feel the buzz in

your own hara

and then just hang out.

 

Oops! shiatsu.

 

sorry,

Penel

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Thankyou for explaining that to me Ed.:-)

 

 

 

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& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; angie LeDan

& lt;chamique1 & gt;<BR>

& gt; & nbsp; --- Ed Lambert

& lt;moonlava & gt; wrote:<BR>

& gt; It most likely is a combination of heart

anxiety<BR>

& gt; expressing through the & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

& gt; bladder meridian.The restlessness comes from

the<BR>

& gt; heart. It would help to & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

& gt; stabilize and ground the stomach and gall

bladder<BR>

& gt; channels. & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt; He Ed, I was wondering if you could please

explain how<BR>

& gt; you came to you diagnosis and treatment plan for

me<BR>

& gt; Thankyou :-)<BR>

& gt; chamique1<BR>

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Stomach and gall bladder contain heart restlessness.

Theyhelp the restless rising of Yang type Qi to

descend into<BR>

the lower Yin part of the body. They grab restless

heart<BR>

Qi and carry it below.<BR>

Gall bladder deficiency can show as low

self-confidence.<BR>

Stomach deficiency can show as desperation and<BR>

falling apart. These signs bring up the restlessness

in<BR>

the heart to try to do something about it.<BR>

It can come through as not-talking and talking a

lot.<BR>

You would probably find that the person has

moments<BR>

in their life when they shut out the world and don't

want<BR>

to talk to anyone.<BR>

Ed<BR>

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