Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 >Because TCM says just " damp " , not ALL carbs, BTW: I apologize for not saying the above in response to your first post, Hugo, maybe that would have made it clearer. I've gone ahead and changed the subject heading since it is no longer about CFS and Gluten sensitivity. Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 --- Kit <kitcurtin wrote: > >Because TCM says just " damp " , not ALL carbs, > > BTW: I apologize for not saying the above in > response > to your first post, Hugo, maybe that would have made > it > clearer. I see, I'm clearer on what you're saying now. Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 --- Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > --- Kit <kitcurtin wrote: > >Because > TCM says just " damp " , not ALL carbs, Ok, I read your other post, and I still don't get how " all carbs " would not or could not fall under " damp " . Bye Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 It may be happening now esp. with western TCM practitioners but per theory I've never seen it said don't eat rice and congee is high on the recommended list. Is this horse dead, yet?! ;-) ;-DKit At 01:42 AM 11/3/02 +0000, you wrote: > > --- Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > --- > Kit <kitcurtin wrote: > >Because > > TCM says just " damp " , not ALL carbs, > > Ok, I read your other post, and I still don't get how > " all carbs " would not or could not fall under " damp " . > > Bye > Hugo > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > <http://uk.my.>http://uk.my. > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > </community/Chinese Traditional Medicine>/co > mmunity/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 In a message dated 11/4/02 7:58:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, subincor writes: White rice is dampness engendering. Brown rice is as well, just not as much as white. All carbohydrates, because they are sweet, engender dampness. Grains, furthermore, because they _must_ be cooked prior to consumption, are also suspect re their digestibility. Hugo, One comment, I was not aware of the above, but do know that Yi Yi Ren is a grain but, leaches out dampness. I was not following the whole thread so maybe I missed something. Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 --- Kit <kitcurtin wrote: > It may be happening now esp. with western TCM > practitioners > but per theory I've never seen it said don't eat > rice and congee > is high on the recommended list. > Is this horse dead, yet?! ;-) ;-DKit Ok, Kit, I don't know what the winks mean, but I am _trying_ to understand your point of view and you seem to be snide about the topic. White rice is dampness engendering. Brown rice is as well, just not as much as white. All carbohydrates, because they are sweet, engender dampness. Grains, furthermore, because they _must_ be cooked prior to consumption, are also suspect re their digestibility. CM theory backs up my statements clearly. I am asking you to back up yours. See you, Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 --- KarateStan wrote: > > White rice is dampness engendering. Brown rice is > as > > well, just not as much as white. All > carbohydrates, > > because they are sweet, engender dampness. Grains, > > furthermore, because they _must_ be cooked prior > to > > consumption, are also suspect re their > digestibility. > Hugo, > One comment, I was not aware of the above, but do > know that Yi Yi Ren is a > grain but, leaches out dampness. Sure, I'm not saying that grains are not good for digestion or don't have many beneficial fucntions; they do. However, in extreme cases of weakness, we should b very careful of what we eat. Grains are inherently hard to digest - if you're interested in the modern science viewpoint, a search on " lectins " may bring up relevant information on one portion of the problem. Again, anything sweet engenders dampness / generates fluids. Highly sweet things engender dampness strongly. Mildly sweet things engender it mildly. Sometimes something is sweet and also promotes diuresis - remember that sweetness also tonifies the spleen and therefore its ability to regulate water, although the prime way that sweetness tonifies the spleen is via the function of providing nutrition to the muscles/flesh rather than by drying the spleen or increasing the digestive fire. So, for your example, yiyiren is bland (equals very mildly sweet) and _cool_ in energy. Therefore it is not indicated for anyone with a weak Sp, eg chronic fatigue etc, even though they may need to have dampness leeched out. One more point - the continuum of an organs' function (i.e. hyper all the way to hypo) is not smooth. this means that at either extreme, the malfunctioning organ shows signs of " seizing up " or " locking " - stuff that we could characterise as " reversions " of yin into yang, or yang into yin. Therefore people who have a very weak spleen and dampness accumulation, when given a bland (mildly sweet) food or herb, will have a serious reaction, rather than experience a mild weakening, which we might think would be more proportional to the flavour and energy of the food. Does that make sense? Bye for now, Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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