Hello!....I'm a new member.

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Warmest greetings to the Group!

 

My name is Skip.

I am a new member from Missouri.

 

I have just recently began my path down the road of Traditional

.

 

For the past three years, I have suffered terribly from exhaustion.

 

Sleep Apnea...Hypothyroid...General malaise and draining fatigue.

 

The Western doctors I go to don't really know what is wrong with me,

and sell me expensive and useless drugs to cover up my symptoms.

 

Perhaps I have what they call Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

 

Whatever it is, I suffer poor memory and slow cognitive speed as

opposed to my former normal state.

 

Now that I have learned a little about Chinese medicine, I believe my

Jing is depleted, and I need some good Jing tonics, so I ordered a

couple of bottles of Shou Wu tonic, and started on that yesterday,

along with a big fat Reishi mushroom I bought, and am making a daily

tea out of.(Plus daily Ginseng)

 

Please tell me....am I on the right track to regaining my strength

and energy?

 

 

By the way Victoria....I have been researching the Archives of this

group, and I often see you write about how it's important to get

angry and act it out from time to time.

 

I can be a bit of a hot-head, and I try (and succeed) to be mellow

and calm most of the time.

I sometimes think that by suppressing my anger, it makes me sicker.

 

How can I burn off this extra Yang energy without losing friends and

going to,jail?

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

--Skip

[Guest guest]

I highly recommend John Lee's book " Facing the Fire: Experiencing and

Appropriately Expressing Your Anger " .

 

I've had an axe in my car for nearly ten years now, it goes everywhere with

me.

I use it for chopping wood to work out the anger.

And I've used it so much that now just having it around acts like a

lightning rod, draining off the charge, before it becomes dangerous.

 

Bryon

 

 

skipgoforth [sMTP:skipgoforth]

Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:56 PM

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[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Hello!....I'm a new member.

 

Warmest greetings to the Group!

My name is Skip.

I am a new member from Missouri.

 

I have just recently began my path down the road of Traditional Chinese

Medicine.

For the past three years, I have suffered terribly from exhaustion.

Sleep Apnea...Hypothyroid...General malaise and draining fatigue.

The Western doctors I go to don't really know what is wrong with me, and

sell me expensive and useless drugs to cover up my symptoms.

Perhaps I have what they call Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

Whatever it is, I suffer poor memory and slow cognitive speed as opposed to

my former normal state.

Now that I have learned a little about Chinese medicine, I believe my Jing

is depleted, and I need some good Jing tonics, so I ordered a couple of

bottles of Shou Wu tonic, and started on that yesterday, along with a big

fat Reishi mushroom I bought, and am making a daily tea out of.(Plus daily

Ginseng)

Please tell me....am I on the right track to regaining my strength and

energy?

 

By the way Victoria....I have been researching the Archives of this group,

and I often see you write about how it's important to get angry and act it

out from time to time.

I can be a bit of a hot-head, and I try (and succeed) to be mellow and calm

most of the time.

I sometimes think that by suppressing my anger, it makes me sicker.

How can I burn off this extra Yang energy without losing friends and going

to,jail?

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

--Skip

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Skip,

 

> For the past three years, I have suffered terribly from exhaustion.

 

Fatigue can have one or more of several Roots. Thse include Qi

Deficiency, Kidney Yin Deficiency, Yang Deficiency, Blood Deficiency

and/or Fluid Deficiency, and Dampness accumulation as well as Jing

Deficiency.

 

Qi Deficiency also is characterized by spontaneous sweating, a shiny

pale complexion and a soft voice with little desire to speak.

 

Kidney Yin Deficiency can result in exhaustion and agitation at the

same time. This may be a person who can't sit still even though s/he

is tired. The person also is too hot. This is Deficiency Heat.

There is not enough Yin to cool the body correctly.

 

Blood Deficiency is characterized by a dull pale complexion. The skin

may be dry and itchy. There may be muscle weakness and trembling in

the legs and arms. The skin may be wrinkled from lack of Blood.

 

Dampness is characterized by feelings of heaviness in the limbs.

 

Yang Deficiency can give the most severe fatigue of all. In

addition, the person feels cold most of the time and has trouble

warming up. This is Deficiency Cold as there is not enough Yang to

warm the body correctly. (These are just very basic symptoms and

signs. Posts in the message base go into some of these imbalances in

more detail.)

 

> Sleep Apnea...Hypothyroid...General malaise and draining fatigue.

 

TCM may or may not be able to help sleep apnea. It depends on the

cause. Has your doctor x-rayed you to see if there is any structural

deformities?

 

There are a number of posts on here about hypothyroidism. Does your

doctor have you on thyroid replacement therapy? You may also want to

search some of the regular medical literature about hypothyroidism.

Doctors are discovering that thyroid replacement therapy doesn't

always eliminate all the symptoms of hypothyroidism even though the

blood level of the hormones may be normal.

 

> Perhaps I have what they call Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

 

Do a search on here for CFIDS, aka Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. You may

also want to check out the website of the CFIDS Association of

America.

 

> Whatever it is, I suffer poor memory and slow cognitive speed as

> opposed to my former normal state.

 

Slowness can be a symptom of Cold.

 

> Now that I have learned a little about Chinese medicine, I believe

my

> Jing is depleted, and I need some good Jing tonics, so I ordered a

> couple of bottles of Shou Wu tonic, and started on that yesterday,

> along with a big fat Reishi mushroom I bought, and am making a

daily

> tea out of.(Plus daily Ginseng)

 

Is this Siberian Ginseng or Panax Ginseng? PWCs (People With CFIDS)

generally do better on another Qi tonic herb besides Panax Ginseng.

Codonopsis often is substituted for Panax Ginseng in formulas for

PWCs.

 

> Please tell me....am I on the right track to regaining my strength

> and energy?

 

The ideal situation is to see a TCM healer in person where you live.

No one can diagnose via email. A great deal of TCM analysis involves

careful observation. Also, there is no way to do a pulse diagnosis

over the computer. All we can do on here is raise possibilities for

people to research further.

 

> I can be a bit of a hot-head, and I try (and succeed) to be mellow

> and calm most of the time.

> I sometimes think that by suppressing my anger, it makes me sicker.

 

Anger is associated primarily with the Liver. There may or may not

be Liver Yang Rising. Or, it could be another imbalance.

 

> How can I burn off this extra Yang energy without losing friends

and

> going to,jail?

 

There may or may not be excess Yang. Liver Yang can rise even though

it is Deficient.

 

I find that acknowledging to myself that I am angry (or afraid or

feeling vulnerable or whatever) helps. Acknowledging does not mean

acting out.

 

It is counterproductive to tell oneself that there is no reason to

feel anger or whatever. The inner self doesn't understand. All this

does is to increase the feelings of anger or whatever. I find simply

accepting that I feel a certain way plus asking myself why to be

helpful. Someone else may have some other ideas.

 

I also find it helps to joke about how angry I am. I also warn

people around me that I'm not angry at them, I'm angry at whatever or

whoever. (Yes, I have some Liver imbalance.)

 

Sometimes a person will choose to feel angry as a protection against

feeling an emotion that is more threatening to the individual than

anger is - like fear, feelings of vulnerability, feelings of

dependence, etc.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bryon and Victoria ,for your input concerning my problem.

 

I have one last question about my constant fatigue....

 

Every evening between 7-9PM, I fall fast asleep, no matter where I am.

 

I mean I sut off like a light switch...I cannot keep from falling

asleep when this heppens.

 

After 9pm, my energy climbs to its highest for the day, which is late

night until about sunrise.

 

I work at night, so I am usually up at these late hours.

 

Could this falling asleep between 7-9PM thing be related to the

Horary Cycle?

 

I wonder what it indicates?

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

--Skip

[Guest guest]

skipgoforth wrote:

 

> I work at night, so I am usually up at these late hours.

>

> Could this falling asleep between 7-9PM thing be related to the

> Horary Cycle?

>

> I wonder what it indicates?

 

Might have something to do with your work hours. Man is not a nocturnal

creature by nature, working at night kind of messes with ya.

 

--

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Brandt, Bryon " <bebrandt@u...> wrote:

 

> I've had an axe in my car for nearly ten years now, it goes

everywhere with me.

> I use it for chopping wood to work out the anger.

 

I just caught this.... Anger is the emotion associated with the wood

element. How very appropriate... <G>.

 

sue