Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 " Clinical manifestations " Feeling of distension, distending pain that moves from place to place, abdominal masses that appear and disappear, mental depression, irritability, gloomy feeling, frequent mood swings, frequent sighing, Wiry or Tight pulse, slightly Purple tongue. " These are only the general but essential and distinctive symptoms of Qi stagnation. The feeling of distension, which can affect the hypochondrium " (the sides of the abdomen), " epigastrium " (upper, middle abdomen), throat, abdomen and hypogastrium " (lower, middle abdomen), " is the most characteristic and important of the symptoms of Qi stagnation. " Emotional symptoms are also very characteristic and frequent in stagnation of Qi, particularly of Liver-Qi. " Other symptoms and which part of the body is mostly affected depend on which organ is involved. The Liver is the organ that is most affected by stagnation of Qi, and these symptoms are described under the Pattern Identification according to the Internal Organs (see page 215.) " (The Foundations of , Giovanni Maciocia, p.192.) A sign is something that the healer can observe for her/himself. Like the tongue color and coating, the pulse, the complexion, etc. A symptom is something that the client reports but the healer cannot observe - like feelings of distention. " Distension " is a pressing outward kind of diffuse pain or discomfort. Like gas pains. Sometimes it is easier to understand the pain or discomfort that comes from Qi Stagnation when it is compared to that of Blood Stasis. In Blood Stasis (Blood not moving properly), the pain is constant and stays in one place. The pain of Qi Stagnation waxes and wanes, and moves around. Think gas pains (though Qi Stagnation is not limited to gas pains). The pain of Blood Stasis is sharp and differentiated. One can point to exactly where it hurts - the same place it hurt yesterday and where it's going to hurt tomorrow. Qi Stagnation pain is more diffuse. It is impossible to draw a boundary around it. It's more spread-out. It waxes and wanes in intensity and moves around. There is disagreement about the tongue color in Qi Stagnation. Some say that Qi Stagnation results in a light purple tone to the tongue, and Blood Stasis results in a dark purple discoloration. Others say that if the tongue is purple at all, Blood Stasis is present. The latter describe the tongue in Qi Stagnation as being " dusty " looking. It's like an artist mixing in a little black pigment with the color red or pink. It's still red or pink, but it's no longer a vibrant red or pink. It looks a little dirty or dusty. Part of the disagreement about tongue color in Qi Stagnation may come from the relationship between Qi and Blood. Qi " commands " Blood, moves it. If there is Qi Stagnation, sooner or later there will be Blood Stasis. (Note to students: This is something which probably will come up on an exam. Qi moves Blood. The actual quote is " Qi is the commander of Blood, and Blood is the mother of Qi. " The second part of the quote means that Blood provides the physical matrix and nourishment for the creation and sustaining of Qi.) Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 I'd like to add some 6 element perspectives on this just for others to look at. It may be of interest. In 6 element perspective, there are 6 elements to the body; Fire, Earth, Metal (air), Water, Qi and Blood. Qi relates to the element of Primordial Sea (original qi). Blood relates to Wood. (Gall Bladder is considered the primary root of Blood. Spleen then makes it, Heart moves it, and Liver stores and provides it to the whole body. Stomach is nourished by it.) In the cycle of 6 elements, Primordial Sea (Qi) comes before Wood (Blood) in the Sheng cycle. This corresponds to what Victoria wrote about " Qi commanding Blood " . Qi is the foundation of Blood. And like Victoria wrote, " Blood provides the physical matrix for Qi " . When it is said below that " The Liver is the organ that is most affected by stagnation of Qi " , this refers to how stagnation in the element of SJ/Pc affects Wood(GB/Lv). Pericardium is a very sensitive channel and is used to clear emotional stress. Like is said below, " Emotional symptoms are also very characteristic and frequent in stagnation of Qi " . Like Victoria says below, " If there is Qi Stagnation, sooner or later there will be Blood Stasis. " This is the relationship of the sheng cycle from Primordial Sea (Qi) to Wood (Blood). When there is stagnation in the Qi of primordial sea, there will eventually be stagnation in the Blood of Wood. This close relationship between Blood and Qi really comes together when we look at the Shaoyang-Jueyin circuit. This circuit refers to the continuous flow from Liver channel to Pericardium which turns into San Jiao which flows to Gall Bladder which flows back to Liver channel. These four channels make up one circuit. This complete circuit is the foundation of Qi and Blood within the body. The other 2 circuits nourish, develop and activate Qi and Blood in their own ways. This is just a 6 element perspective that I wanted to pass along. - Ed > " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon > " Emotional symptoms are also very characteristic and frequent in > stagnation of Qi, particularly of Liver-Qi. > > " Other symptoms and which part of the body is mostly affected depend > on which organ is involved. The Liver is the organ that is most > affected by stagnation of Qi, and these symptoms are described under > the Pattern Identification according to the Internal Organs (see page > 215.) " (The Foundations of , Giovanni Maciocia, > p.192.) > > Part of the disagreement about tongue color in Qi Stagnation may come > from the relationship between Qi and Blood. Qi " commands " Blood, > moves it. If there is Qi Stagnation, sooner or later there will be > Blood Stasis. (Note to students: This is something which probably > will come up on an exam. Qi moves Blood. The actual quote is " Qi is > the commander of Blood, and Blood is the mother of Qi. " The second > part of the quote means that Blood provides the physical matrix and > nourishment for the creation and sustaining of Qi.) > Victoria > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Seems I should state more on the connection of Qi and Blood to Primal Sea and Wood. If you have Maciocia, foundations, on page 8-9 you will see descriptions of Yin-Yang perspectives. The Shaoyang-Jueyin circuit relates Qi and Blood, page 8. I talked about this one already. The Shaoyin-Taiyang circuit relates to Fire and Water, page 9. This is pretty obvious with the connection to Heart and Kidney. As the book says, " the balance between fire and water is fundamental to all physiological processes of the body. " The relationship between fire and water in the body is as fundamental as Qi and Blood. The Taiyin-Yangming circuit relates to Defensive Qi and Nutritive Qi, page 9. The connection between defensive Qi and Lung is written about on pages 44-45. Nutritive Qi is closely related to Spleen. So each of the 3 circuits shows a fundamental balance within the body. In 6 element theory, the cycle of elements is; Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, Water then Primal Sea. There are two triangles that merge to form this complete cycle. One triangle is Yang in nature; Primal Sea - Qi - Yang Fire - Fire - Yang Metal - Defensive Qi - Yang The other triangle is Yin in nature; Water - Water - Yin Wood - Blood - Yin Earth - nutritive Qi - Yin The Yin or Yang nature of all these are stated in Maciocia, page 8-9. And they coincide with the cycle of 6 elements. There, that should make more sense to see the whole picture. And using info from Maciocia should help too. I realize this is a new perspective for everyone so I just want to show it for others to look at. - Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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