Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Dear Victoria, It is just amazing to me how you got better by finding the correct acupoint to press and heat when the demerol shot didn't help. WOW! It seems that my worst areas are the liver meridian. I don't really have any books on the meridians - _I'll order some. Are there any particular liver meridian points that may help me like what helped you in the kidney meridian? Should I just do a trial and error? I know heat helps me on my neck and head muscles - I can't stand cold and wind on my neck and head. Strange, but now I can't stand heat on other areas - probably worse from menopause. I remember always being cold growing up but also having many heat related problems. It's hard with a mixture of symptoms. I've been trying to eat more cooling foods for that problems and I'm having more stomach aches (or maybe it's from all the acid food I've eaten???) I read even rice and grains are acidic???? Take Care - Sharon Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:43:58 -0000 "victoria_dragon" <victoria_dragonRe: Digest Number 635> I'm so glad to hear that you are much better following the TCM path. Maybe there is hope for some of the rest of us. I have had my neck pain, headaches, etc.for about 21 years.I had headaches so bad a shot of demerol in the emergency room wouldn't stop them, only blunt them enough so I could sleep through the worst of the headache. They started when I was a teenager and got worse and worse over the years. I go into detail about them in some posts in the message base. It got to the point where I either had a headache developing or a full-blown one most of the time.When one got bad enough to go to ER, the ride was agony. By that time extreme nausea also had set in. My head hurt even more if I moved it any. I was overjoyed and amazed when I discovered acupoints that could knock one of these headaches out in seconds. A shot of demerol couldn't knock it out, but pressing on some points and applying heat to them could! And in seconds.I didn't figure out all the points overnight. The first two I discovered were by accident. I had slapped a heating pad over my lower back because I had been out working in the garden and didn't want my muscles to stiffen up. By that time I already had figured out that heat helped, but I had been putting the heating pad over my neck. That had helped a lot, and had cut down on the recovery time from the headaches (to a day or so from a few days). But putting it over my lower back did even more. (My headaches were due to Wind Cold in the Bladder and Small Intestine meridians. I gradually figured out other points to use, including Small Intestine 3. The acupressure and heat to selected points not only could knock the headaches out in a hurry, a regular program of acupressure reduced my tendency to have the headaches.The reason I recommend to the students on the list that they learn 5 Element Theory is that I was figuring out points to use based on 5 Element Theory.>Since the Doc doesn't really know what else to do, the next thing they want to do is for me to go to a pain clinic. I have already tried so much, even been to Mayo Clinic. - can't find anything. Hopefully the TCM will help.BTW, I also had bursitis in the hips. I had a reaction to the pills for it. The next step was cortisone shots in the joints. In answer to my questions about the shots I was told, "Yes, they hurt," and "They are not always successful." This is not TCM, but I tried castor oil packs. They worked better than the pills and without the side effects. At some point you may want to try a castor oil pack over the neck area. They reduce inflammation and infection and help lymph flow.> Do you have a website besides this mailing list?No.Victoria New DSL Internet Access from SBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 I want to thank everyone who responded to my question on soy products. It was very informative. Erik aponte -------------------------~-> > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: > Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > ------ > > There are 22 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Soy and milk > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 2. Re: Digest Number 634 > Larry Stockwell > <stockwells4 > 3. Hernia Treatments > " vgodar " <vgodar > 4. Re: Digest Number 635 > Larry Stockwell > <stockwells4 > 5. Re: Soy and milk > " walmart_hurts " > <jcc > 6. Re: Hernia Treatments > " Blaise T. Ryan " > <blaiseryan > 7. Re: Digest Number 634 > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 8. Re: Very sick please help > Hugo Ramiro <subincor > 9. Re: Re: Hello > Hugo Ramiro <subincor > 10. Re: Digest Number 635 > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 11. Re: Soy and milk > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 12. Re: Hello > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 13. Message base > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 14. Re: Re: sleep > Hugo Ramiro <subincor > 15. Re Hernia What is Qigong? > " vgodar " <vgodar > 16. Re: Re Hernia What is Qigong? > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 17. Re: Re: Re Hernia What is Qigong? > KarateStan > 18. Re Thanks for the information > " vgodar " <vgodar > 19. Re: Digest Number 620 > " Junya Ho " <junya.ho > 20. Re: Re: Soy and milk > Kit <kitcurtin > 21. Re: Re: Re Hernia What is Qigong? > " kurvenal " <kurvenal > 22. Re: Re Hernia What is Qigong? > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 > " victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > Re: Soy and milk > > Chinese Traditional Medicine, erik aponte > <thurneisser> wrote: > > I was wondering about the potential benefits and > what > > problems their may be in drinking soy on a daily > > basis. Can anyone recommend good soy products? > > I have also heard that milk is not really a > necessity > > for an adult. > > You may want to check Dr. Mercola's website for > articles about soy. > There are some serious concerns about soy products. > > Milk is good for some adults, not good for others. > Some adults can > handle cheese and especially yogurt ok, but not > milk. Some adults > can handle goat milk products but not cow milk > products. It depends > on the individual. > > From a TCM standpoint, dairy is contraindicated if > there are Dampness > problems and/or a weak Spleen. Dairy is one of the > most Damp- > engendering foods there is. (Wheat also is > Damp-engendering, but not > as bad as dairy.) Some milk and wheat " allergies " > are not actual > allergies at all but the result of the Spleen being > weak and Dampness > having accumulated. (One of the things the Spleen > Qi does is to > transport and transform Fluids in the body. If it's > weak, it can't > perform this function adequately, and Dampness > accumulates. One of > the primary indicators of Dampness problems is that > the arms and legs > will feel heavy - like weights are attached to them. > There usually > is edema somewhere in the body (though not > necessarily uniform > throughout the body). The thinking may be " foggy " . > The tongue > coating is sticky. The tongue may be swollen. The > pulse is slippery. > > It's a good idea to forego dairy when one has a cold > or flu. There > already is too much mucus. > > Victoria > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:52:23 -0700 (PDT) > Larry Stockwell <stockwells4 > Re: Digest Number 634 > > > Dear Victoria, > Thank you SO MUCH for all the articles you sent > regarding magnesium. I have read this and the next > 2 daily mailing lists I get but need to reread. It > seems like there is so much to grasp - kind of > overwhelming. I order some coral caIcium and that > came a few weeks ago. Since it has calcium and mag > in it I've started taking that until I get oyster > shell. I have to get my house cleaned up by > Thursday as an appraiser is coming and with my bad > health it is hard. I had my family helping this > weedend. Anyways, after that I am going to be able > to spend more time on these posts. They are > amazing. You have so much information! I know a > little - and understand concepts of hot, cold, > yin/yang, of foods and some things from Henry Lu's > book. He has a book, Chinese System of Foods for > Health and Healing where you go thru the symptoms > and add up the highest scores and it says what you > have - my worst was 9.7 Internal Liver Wind > Blowing, however most of the liver ones were almost > as bad. They involve headaches, vertigo, fainting, > stiff neck. > Take Care - Sharon > > > > > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:59:29 -0000 > " vgodar " <vgodar > Hernia Treatments > > I have a close friend who has a small hernia on the > right groin side. > What are the chinese alternitaves to surgry. Thx > Victor > === message truncated === New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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