Which Yin organ does the Triple Burner correspond to?

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I have looked into this, and opinions seem to differ. Some say that

the Triple Burner corresponds to the Pericardium. Others say that it

corresponds to the right kidney, or Ming Men. Are either of these

correct??

 

Mbanu

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It is related to the PC as a fellow " fire " element organ but according

to the Zang Fu theory, the fire derives not from the fire element, but

from the kidneys (either the right kidney or the ming men fire between

the kdineys).

 

-al.

 

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> the Triple Burner corresponds to the Pericardium. Others say that it

> corresponds to the right kidney, or Ming Men. Are either of these

> correct??

>

> Mbanu

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> Al Stone <alstone

>

> It is related to the PC as a fellow " fire " element organ but according

> to the Zang Fu theory, the fire derives not from the fire element, but

> from the kidneys (either the right kidney or the ming men fire between

> the kdineys).

 

The 6 element theory makes this more clear. Yes, SJ is related to Pc. They form

the 6th element, Primordial Sea. Their 'fire' comes from Kidney-Water. But it is

not the fire that we would recognize in a campfire. (In Jin Shin Jyutsu, the 6th

element is known as 'primal fire')

Before life was born, there was water. But the water was lifeless. At a certain

point, the water came to perfect temperature and contained all the right

ingredients in the right amounts. It was at that point that life appeared. The

6th element describes this state within water where a homeostatically perfect

environment supports life.

So the fire that is associated with SJ/Pc that is born from Kidney-water is more

a 'power' that results from having a balanced environment.

The homeostatic balance of the primordial sea 'ignited' life to appear. The

ignition took place as synergy built up. When perfect balance within the water

was reached, the synergy in a sense exploded very quietly and calmly. Life

appeared.

The element after Primordial Sea is Wood. So it is from the synergy of balance

that life flourishes and grows with the element Wood. Clinically, assisting

clients to reach a state of balance in their lives offers them healing power.

Maintaining this homeostatic balance can be tricky in this modern world.

That is the 6 element theory perspective.

Ed Lambert

Traditional Chinese Medical College of Hawaii

http://www.ilhawaii.net/~chinese/

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Hi Ed,

 

Where does this info come from? Is this a tradition that I'm unfamiliar

with, or is this a theory of your own?

 

Six channels I know about, but six elements?

 

-al.

 

Ed Lambert wrote:

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> > Al Stone <alstone

> >

> > It is related to the PC as a fellow " fire " element organ but according

> > to the Zang Fu theory, the fire derives not from the fire element, but

> > from the kidneys (either the right kidney or the ming men fire between

> > the kdineys).

>

> The 6 element theory makes this more clear. Yes, SJ is related to Pc. They

form the 6th element, Primordial Sea. Their 'fire' comes from Kidney-Water. But

it is not the fire that we would recognize in a campfire. (In Jin Shin Jyutsu,

the 6th element is known as 'primal fire')

> Before life was born, there was water. But the water was lifeless. At a

certain point, the water came to perfect temperature and contained all the right

ingredients in the right amounts. It was at that point that life appeared. The

6th element describes this state within water where a homeostatically perfect

environment supports life.

> So the fire that is associated with SJ/Pc that is born from Kidney-water is

more a 'power' that results from having a balanced environment.

> The homeostatic balance of the primordial sea 'ignited' life to appear. The

ignition took place as synergy built up. When perfect balance within the water

was reached, the synergy in a sense exploded very quietly and calmly. Life

appeared.

> The element after Primordial Sea is Wood. So it is from the synergy of balance

that life flourishes and grows with the element Wood. Clinically, assisting

clients to reach a state of balance in their lives offers them healing power.

Maintaining this homeostatic balance can be tricky in this modern world.

> That is the 6 element theory perspective.

> Ed Lambert

> Traditional Chinese Medical College of Hawaii

> http://www.ilhawaii.net/~chinese/

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ed,

 

 

The 6 element theory is interesting. Where does it come from. Is it

written about in any classics? What is the pinyin for " Primordial Sea " ?

" Yuan Hai " maybe?

 

 

Blaise

 

 

 

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>Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Which Yin organ does the Triple Burner

>correspond to?

>Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:55:02 -1000

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> > Al Stone <alstone

> >

> > It is related to the PC as a fellow " fire " element organ but according

> > to the Zang Fu theory, the fire derives not from the fire element, but

> > from the kidneys (either the right kidney or the ming men fire between

> > the kdineys).

>

>The 6 element theory makes this more clear. Yes, SJ is related to Pc. They

>form the 6th element, Primordial Sea. Their 'fire' comes from Kidney-Water.

>But it is not the fire that we would recognize in a campfire. (In Jin Shin

>Jyutsu, the 6th element is known as 'primal fire')

>Before life was born, there was water. But the water was lifeless. At a

>certain point, the water came to perfect temperature and contained all the

>right ingredients in the right amounts. It was at that point that life

>appeared. The 6th element describes this state within water where a

>homeostatically perfect environment supports life.

>So the fire that is associated with SJ/Pc that is born from Kidney-water is

>more a 'power' that results from having a balanced environment.

>The homeostatic balance of the primordial sea 'ignited' life to appear. The

>ignition took place as synergy built up. When perfect balance within the

>water was reached, the synergy in a sense exploded very quietly and calmly.

>Life appeared.

>The element after Primordial Sea is Wood. So it is from the synergy of

>balance that life flourishes and grows with the element Wood. Clinically,

>assisting clients to reach a state of balance in their lives offers them

>healing power. Maintaining this homeostatic balance can be tricky in this

>modern world.

>That is the 6 element theory perspective.

>Ed Lambert

>Traditional Chinese Medical College of Hawaii

>http://www.ilhawaii.net/~chinese/

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Al Stone <alstone

>

> Where does this info come from? Is this a tradition that I'm unfamiliar

> with, or is this a theory of your own?

> Six channels I know about, but six elements?

 

Hi Al, Along with what Mbanu wrote, my study of 6 elements came from Jin Shin

Jyutsu. This was the life's work of Jiro Murai in the 1900's. He devoted his

life to the study of the ancient archives in Japan. He read the ancient texts

and practiced them. He would meditate with his body energies everyday for his

whole life. The knowledge of

the 6 elements came from his research into the ancient records.

Which ones he read, and where they are found now in Japan? I don't know, but

many of the texts did come from China that he read. The name 'Jin Shin' is the

japanese name for the chinese 'Jing-Shen'. Jin Shin Do is an offshoot of Jin

Shin Jyutsu from the 1970's by a student of Mary Burmeister, one of the 5 or six

original students of Jiro

Murai. The student brodi away from Mary Burmeister and wanted the information to

be more public. The only thing though is that she didn't take the 6 element

theory with her.

6 element theory is not well developed in Jin Shin Jyutsu. Because of that, it's

taken me over 15 years to start understanding it. It is the basis of my work and

research.

But as Mbanu pointed out, 6 elements has a history that looks to predate the

rise of 5 element theory. - Ed