Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Hi all, what are your experiences and protocols for dealing with sunburn? I use watermelon frost plus a regular cream or aloe vera, it's a bit awkward but very effective, plus yinqiao (clear heat/heat toxin) or baihegujin (tonify lung yin) if indicated. Is anyone familiar with any TCM creams on the market? I can only find burn medications - chemical, fire or radiation. I suppose the sun falls under the category of radiation, but I was told not to use that cream for sunburn (ChinWanHung). Also, how about the use of Huang Qi while someone has a bad sunburn? Any problems with locking the heat in, or with the raising of clear yang etc ? Thanks for your information, thoughts. Bye, Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 not very chinese but try adding a few black tea bags to a cool bath. the tannic acids draw out the heat bob --- Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > Hi all, what are your experiences and protocols for > dealing with sunburn? I use watermelon frost plus a > regular cream or aloe vera, it's a bit awkward but > very effective, plus yinqiao (clear heat/heat toxin) > or baihegujin (tonify lung yin) if indicated. > Is anyone familiar with any TCM creams on the > market? > I can only find burn medications - chemical, fire or > radiation. > I suppose the sun falls under the category of > radiation, but I was told not to use that cream for > sunburn (ChinWanHung). > Also, how about the use of Huang Qi while someone > has > a bad sunburn? Any problems with locking the heat > in, > or with the raising of clear yang etc ? > > Thanks for your information, thoughts. > Bye, > Hugo > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 --- Bob Linde <bob_and_robin wrote: > not very chinese but try adding a few black tea bags > to a cool bath. the tannic acids draw out the heat > bob Hi Bob, I'll try that. Thanks, Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 In a message dated 7/30/02 11:27:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, subincor writes: not very chinese but try adding a few black tea bags to a cool bath. the tannic acids draw out the heat bob Bob, but if it was Chinese Black tea. Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 perhaps jasmine tea, isn't that zhi zi with chinese black tea.....just kidding but ya never know... b --- KarateStan wrote: > In a message dated 7/30/02 11:27:58 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > subincor writes: > > > > not very chinese but try adding a few black tea > bags to a cool bath. the > > tannic acids draw out the heat bob > > > > Bob, but if it was Chinese Black tea. > > Stan > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Hi Hugo, I can't say anything to your herb questions, but I know some good remdies for sunburns (the watermelon and aloe treatment is pretty good, too): Put on a good amount of plain yoghurt (any fat content, to prevent that question) on the burns, it cools, draws the heat out and gives the skin a lot of moisture and healing agents. Repeat until the heat subsides. Even better (but I think hard to get in the US) is what in German is called " Quark " , a sort of soft cottage cheese, not " grainy " . The main point is: use a " sour " milk product that's not too runny. They all work fine. Oh, and remember to take off the rest with a soft, moist cloth (don't *wash* it off) before putting on a shirt... (silk hurts least). Cucumber or tomato juice (singly or mixed with the yoghurt) works fine, too. Also, drink lots of green tea. Remember to use the tea leaves several times, especially in the evenings you don't want the upraising effects of the first steeping. Notice something? Aloe, watermelon, cucumber, tomato, sour milk products, green tea,... they all have cooling (and the fruits/veggies detoxifying) properties from a TCM point of view. Another often underestimated technique is to focus on sending " cool " yin energies to the affected areas. Combine it with breathing and give it a neat sounding name and you have a " new " Qi Gong excercise TCM-Cream: Never tried but heard of Ching Wan Hung cream (Angel herbs). Last hint, which is quite un-chinese but works a lot better than the chemical sunburn relievers even in second degree sunburns: " Combudoron " gel or spray by Weleda, which contains arnica and stinging nettle extract - I've seen a 2nd degree sunburn go away completely within 1 day, only (the guy didn't bother to apply any more gel when he the pain was gone): after 2 weeks the skin started to peel. I guess the lower skin layers were damaged, too, and didn't get repaired (because of the short application time). This isn't meant as an advertisement, rather as an information for those who never heard of the stuff. I'm not connected with Weleda in any other respect than being happy the stuff exists and can be used on kids who don't know better and on those who do but are too stupid to put on sunscreen and stay out of the mid-day sun. Best regards, Rebecca Chinese Traditional Medicine, Hugo Ramiro <subincor> wrote: > Hi all, what are your experiences and protocols for > dealing with sunburn? I use watermelon frost plus a > regular cream or aloe vera, it's a bit awkward but > very effective, plus yinqiao (clear heat/heat toxin) > or baihegujin (tonify lung yin) if indicated. > Is anyone familiar with any TCM creams on the market? > I can only find burn medications - chemical, fire or > radiation. > I suppose the sun falls under the category of > radiation, but I was told not to use that cream for > sunburn (ChinWanHung). > Also, how about the use of Huang Qi while someone has > a bad sunburn? Any problems with locking the heat in, > or with the raising of clear yang etc ? > > Thanks for your information, thoughts. > Bye, > Hugo > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Thanks Rebecca, I'll make copies of this to share. Next week I am going to a naturist gathering, where unfortunately I am sure a lot of people will over do it and get bad burns. Bryon rrrivka [sMTP:rrrivka] Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:39 AM Chinese Traditional Medicine [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Sunburn! Hi Hugo, I can't say anything to your herb questions, but I know some good remedies for sunburns (the watermelon and aloe treatment is pretty good, too): Put on a good amount of plain yoghurt (any fat content, to prevent that question) on the burns, it cools, draws the heat out and gives the skin a lot of moisture and healing agents. Repeat until the heat subsides. Even better (but I think hard to get in the US) is what in German is called " Quark " , a sort of soft cottage cheese, not " grainy " . The main point is: use a " sour " milk product that's not too runny. They all work fine. Oh, and remember to take off the rest with a soft, moist cloth (don't *wash* it off) before putting on a shirt... (silk hurts least). Cucumber or tomato juice (singly or mixed with the yoghurt) works fine, too. Also, drink lots of green tea. Remember to use the tea leaves several times, especially in the evenings you don't want the upraising effects of the first steeping. Notice something? Aloe, watermelon, cucumber, tomato, sour milk products, green tea,... they all have cooling (and the fruits/veggies detoxifying) properties from a TCM point of view. Another often underestimated technique is to focus on sending " cool " yin energies to the affected areas. Combine it with breathing and give it a neat sounding name and you have a " new " Qi Gong excercise TCM-Cream: Never tried but heard of Ching Wan Hung cream (Angel herbs). Last hint, which is quite un-chinese but works a lot better than the chemical sunburn relievers even in second degree sunburns: " Combudoron " gel or spray by Weleda, which contains arnica and stinging nettle extract - I've seen a 2nd degree sunburn go away completely within 1 day, only (the guy didn't bother to apply any more gel when he the pain was gone): after 2 weeks the skin started to peel. I guess the lower skin layers were damaged, too, and didn't get repaired (because of the short application time). This isn't meant as an advertisement, rather as an information for those who never heard of the stuff. I'm not connected with Weleda in any other respect than being happy the stuff exists and can be used on kids who don't know better and on those who do but are too stupid to put on sunscreen and stay out of the mid-day sun. Best regards, Rebecca Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine> , Hugo Ramiro <subincor <subincor> > wrote: > Hi all, what are your experiences and protocols for > dealing with sunburn? I use watermelon frost plus a > regular cream or aloe vera, it's a bit awkward but > very effective, plus yinqiao (clear heat/heat toxin) > or baihegujin (tonify lung yin) if indicated. > Is anyone familiar with any TCM creams on the market? > I can only find burn medications - chemical, fire or radiation. > I suppose the sun falls under the category of > radiation, but I was told not to use that cream for > sunburn (ChinWanHung). > Also, how about the use of Huang Qi while someone has > a bad sunburn? Any problems with locking the heat in, > or with the raising of clear yang etc ? > > Thanks for your information, thoughts. > Bye, > Hugo > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- <Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- <Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner <Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine </community/Chinese Traditional Medicine> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 --- rrrivka <rrrivka wrote: > Hi Hugo, > > I can't say anything to your herb questions, but I > know some good > remdies for sunburns (the watermelon and aloe > treatment is pretty > good, too): Thanks for all the info, it is safely in my files for sunburn. I did a bit of research on my own HuangQi/Astragali question, and it seems that HuangQi is not indicated in someone with a sunburn - depending on the severity of course. Huang Qi will raise yang through an already internally hot terrain, and it will also consolidate the skin (as we know) and lock the heat in. The sources are 2 TCM doctors whom i apprentice under. Thanks, Hugo Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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