Digest Number 568

[Guest guest]

Does anyone recognize an herb from this description? I told the patient

I'd get back to her.

 

TIA, JOE

 

> My father came back from a working trip in China a few years ago with a

> fairly miraculous remedy they had given him when he'd developed severe

> laryngitis during his tour. It is a dried fungus, looking rather like a

> nutmeg when dry, which you cover with boiling water, then drink the

tea.

> When it is soaked, it expands into a gelatinous-looking brown clump,

> about five centimeters across. You can add more water to each one and

> drink it several times over.

 

 

>>This sounds like Sterculia scaphigera, Sterculia boat seed. It's a fun

herb to entertain children with, since it changes so dramatically.

[Guest guest]

And:

Do you know if shan zhu yu is a tree dogwood or the groundcover cornus?

(In either event it should grow in Oregon. Get your price really down!)

 

No idea. There are plenty of dogwood trees around and I've never seen any

of

them produce fruits like what we get from China.

For that matter, I've never seen a forsythia produce fruit like Lian Qiao.

And as far as finding local herbs to save money on, I've been tempted, but

decided I'd feel a bit guilty if I deprived the city of its magnolia blooms

just so I could save money on Xin Yi Hua. However, one real boon is the

abundance of mimosas in my neighborhood, which drop carpets of He Huan Hua

that are a nuisance to most people, but a $20/pound savings to me.

 

I purchased a cornelian Cherry Fruit tree from a local nursery, Last

september just full of fruit, tasted just like a fresh version of shan zhu

yu. I'm going to dry them this year to see how they look taste after drying.

There is a tree at the UW Medicinal Herb Garden and the Bastyr University

Garden of the same species, sorry don't have the latin specifics off the top

of my head.

 

 

Matt Ferguson L.Ac.

4244 NE 125th ST

Seattle Wa 98125

206 364 5434

 

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[Guest guest]

Just a question Al:

 

If the morning is the time that the san jiao and the gallbladder will show

the most disturbance why is it that the major disturbance does not show up at

the principal time of day for these organs (san jiao, 9-11p.m., gallbladder,

11p.m.-1a.m.)? It seems as if there were any weakness it would show up at

the time of day the organ was most stressed, since it supposedly at these

times that organ system predominates. You do mention that the small

intestine and the bladder predominate at the mid afternoon, and this

correlates to the times I have learned for these organs (small intestine, 1-3

p.m., bladder, 3-5 p.m.). Then you state times for the stomach and large

intestine which again do not correlate to the time of day for these organs as

I have learned them (5-7 a.m, large intestine, 7-9 a.m, stomach). So I am a

bit confused about all this. Lungs is 3 a.m.-5 a.m. This was how I was

taught, so I am interested in this new way of looking at things as you

present them, but also I am not certain I understand what you are saying. Is

it just that some ancient physicians disagree about how to divide up the

times of day for the organs and functions? I expect this must be it, but I

have to say that in my own case I notice that I am having trouble staying

warm, but it is always during the time of the day for which I believe the san

jiao predominates which is 9-11 p.m. My practitioner also tells me I am in

Shao Yang.

 

Ah, well, it all is a bit confusing to this novice!

[Guest guest]

bonmotSarah wrote:

> Re: Digest Number 568

>

> Just a question Al:

>

> If the morning is the time that the san jiao and the

> gallbladder will show

> the most disturbance why is it that the major

> disturbance does not show up at

> the principal time of day for these organs (san

> jiao, 9-11p.m., gallbladder,

> 11p.m.-1a.m.)? It seems as if there were any

> weakness it would show up at

> the time of day the organ was most stressed, since

> it supposedly at these

> times that organ system predominates.

 

I believe those are the times when the organs are

strongest; they'd be weakest at opposite time of day.

 

You do

> mention that the small

> intestine and the bladder predominate at the mid

> afternoon, and this

> correlates to the times I have learned for these

> organs (small intestine, 1-3

> p.m., bladder, 3-5 p.m.). Then you state times for

> the stomach and large

> intestine which again do not correlate to the time

> of day for these organs as

> I have learned them (5-7 a.m, large intestine, 7-9

> a.m, stomach). So I am a

> bit confused about all this. Lungs is 3 a.m.-5 a.m.

> This was how I was

> taught, so I am interested in this new way of

> looking at things as you

> present them, but also I am not certain I understand

> what you are saying. Is

> it just that some ancient physicians disagree about

> how to divide up the

> times of day for the organs and functions? I expect

> this must be it, but I

> have to say that in my own case I notice that I am

> having trouble staying

> warm, but it is always during the time of the day

> for which I believe the san

> jiao predominates which is 9-11 p.m. My

> practitioner also tells me I am in Shao Yang.

>

> Ah, well, it all is a bit confusing to this novice!

 

The 24 hr clock doesn't make sense to me as far as

following 5 element theory. It's better a following

the physiological function of the body, in a sense. So

I guess there are different theories and they all got

included rather than just one being the accepted

standard.

 

sue

 

 

 

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