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Greetings, fellow TCM members.

 

After coming off of a bad few months in college, where I got into

binge eating to handle stress, I find it hard now to stop. I don't

have the same stress anymore, especially after getting into

doing a lot of Nei Kung, but still, about 3 times a week, I get this

huge craving for sweet, fatty, and salty unhealthy food that seems

totally unrelated to hunger. I still very much enjoy simple foods

like brown rice with nothing but a little sesame oil and raw

veg/fruit, but less so when the craving hits.

 

For some reason also, I don't feel hungry much anymore for

more than a few minutes. When I try to satisfy the craving for the

unhealthy foods, (I feel a total repulsion to healthy stuff when it

hits) I never seem to feel full. In fact, I can't remember the last

time I really felt " full. " I don't know . I often get the feeling of

distension and nausea after eating too much, but for some

reason I feel like I could always choke down a significant amount

more.

 

Another thing--I'm very thin and don't seem to be gaining any

weight from this. I also am not fatigued (sleep only about 5.5 -

6.5 hrs./night---Nei Kung is terrific), seem to urine quite

frequently even without need of much water, and often have cold

limbs and extremeties even in summer. Does this sound like a

certain symptom of something? I'm willing to provide more

information if necessary.

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How long have you been away from college?

lr4444lr <lr4444lr wrote: Greetings, fellow TCM members.After coming off of a bad few months in college, where I got into binge eating to handle stress, I find it hard now to stop. I don't have the same stress anymore, especially after getting into doing a lot of Nei Kung, but still, about 3 times a week, I get this huge craving for sweet, fatty, and salty unhealthy food that seems totally unrelated to hunger. I still very much enjoy simple foods like brown rice with nothing but a little sesame oil and raw veg/fruit, but less so when the craving hits.For some reason also, I don't feel hungry much anymore for more than a few minutes. When I try to satisfy the craving for the unhealthy foods, (I feel a total repulsion to healthy stuff when it hits) I never seem to feel full. In fact, I can't remember the last time I really felt "full." I don't know . I often get the feeling of distension and nausea after eating too much, but for some reason I feel like I could always choke down a significant amount more. Another thing--I'm very thin and don't seem to be gaining any weight from this. I also am not fatigued (sleep only about 5.5 - 6.5 hrs./night---Nei Kung is terrific), seem to urine quite frequently even without need of much water, and often have cold limbs and extremeties even in summer. Does this sound like a certain symptom of something? I'm willing to provide more information if necessary. Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine

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Chinese Traditional Medicine, " lr4444lr " <lr4444lr> wrote:

> Greetings, fellow TCM members.

>

> After coming off of a bad few months in college, where I got into

> binge eating to handle stress, I find it hard now to stop.

 

College can be extremely hard on the body. The stress of deadlines,

the late hours, the eating on the run and eating out of vending

machines, etc.

 

Binge eating sometimes can be a way of desperately trying to get

something the person needs. For example, I have been guilty of

substituting food for rest. I reach for something to keep me going

longer when what I really need is rest. Needless to say I'm Qi

Deficient. That's my way of temporarily boosting Qi enough to keep

going. It's a bad habit.

 

Unfortunately, the foods that are available and are reached for often

are at best poor substitutes for the food (herb, rest, etc.) the

person really needs. Hence, the person rarely feels full and

satisfied.

 

So why are sugarly, salty, and fatty foods so often the ones craved

when there are imbalances? Part of the reason is that different

tastes have an affinity for different Organ systems. The sweet taste

has an affinity for the Spleen (which plays a major role in Qi

production). The salty taste has an affinity for the Kidneys. Some

TCM kidney formulas will direct the person to take the formula with

some salt as the salt will " guide " the formula's effects to where it

is most needed - the Kidneys.

 

> I don't

> have the same stress anymore, especially after getting into

> doing a lot of Nei Kung, but still, about 3 times a week, I get

this

> huge craving for sweet, fatty, and salty unhealthy food that seems

> totally unrelated to hunger.

 

You may not have the stress any more, but the imbalance has been

triggered and never corrected. Think of a row of dominos going down.

The hand that pushed the first one down is no longer there, but the

cascade has started.

 

I still very much enjoy simple foods

> like brown rice with nothing but a little sesame oil and raw

> veg/fruit, but less so when the craving hits.

>

> For some reason also, I don't feel hungry much anymore for

> more than a few minutes. When I try to satisfy the craving for the

> unhealthy foods, (I feel a total repulsion to healthy stuff when it

> hits) I never seem to feel full. In fact, I can't remember the last

> time I really felt " full. "

 

Some people do better on frequent small meals throughout the day -

what some people call " grazing " - than on 3 big meals.

 

> I don't know . I often get the feeling of

> distension and nausea after eating too much, but for some

> reason I feel like I could always choke down a significant amount

> more.

 

Distension and nausea can be symptoms of Spleen Deficiency. The

distension also can be Qi Stagnation. It's interesting that you used

the phase " choke down " . This also indicates possible Qi Stagnation

problems as well as possible Rebellious Qi problems (Stomach Qi

rising when it should be descending).

 

> Another thing--I'm very thin and don't seem to be gaining any

> weight from this. I also am not fatigued (sleep only about 5.5 -

> 6.5 hrs./night---Nei Kung is terrific),

 

Do you waken frequently during the night or every 2 or 3 hours? Do

your have problems falling asleep?

 

Is the energy you have a nervous energy? Any feelings of agitation?

 

> seem to urine quite

> frequently even without need of much water,

 

The frequent urination often is a symptom of Kidney Yang Deficiency,

but fatigue is present in those cases. Do you rarely feel thirsty and

prefer hot soups when you do consume liquids?

 

The bad thing about cases where the person isn't feeling thirsty when

s/he should and is not consuming enough liquids is that it can lead

to Fluid Deficiency and then to Blood Deficiency.

 

> and often have cold

> limbs and extremeties even in summer.

 

This too can be Yang Deficiency

 

One exercise to try is to get relaxed and ask your body what it

really needs. Sometimes the person will just know, sometimes images

may appear in the mind, or dreams may point to what the person needs.

 

I'm hoping others will reply to this message too and give their input.

 

Victoria

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Being in TCM school all we ever joke about

(and not-joke about) is how much damage

we are doing to our Spleens.

Overthinking and worrying are the 'negative'

emotions affecting the Spleen.

And, like Victoria said the other major signs

point to Yang Xu. I also like to suggest to

people that have been stressed to learn

about their adrenals and endocrine system. Kit

http://www.myvits.com/bodymech/bodymech-adrenals.htm

 

 

 

 

At 03:42 PM 6/18/02 -0700, you wrote:

 

How long have you been away from college?

 

 

 

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I get this

> huge craving for sweet, fatty, and salty unhealthy

> food that seems

> totally unrelated to hunger. I still very much enjoy

> simple foods

 

one of the reasons I like the most chinese medicine is

because wealways are in condition to feel whwt we

needs the same for our patients all what we need to

taste is what need in general terms in this case sweet

and salt express deficiency in kidney and spleen.

In my opinion eating healthy is to be honest

oneselfwith our necesity i use to say that main

problem is what we eat but our imposibility to stop

eating when foodis what we like the most.

nevertheless so often in modern times we force our

body to eat healthy by eating

 

> like brown rice with nothing but a little sesame oil

> and raw

> veg/fruit,

 

even when

 

> For some reason also, I don't feel hungry much

> anymore for

> more than a few minutes.

 

or

 

When I try to satisfy the

> craving for the

> unhealthy foods, (I feel a total repulsion to

> healthy stuff when it

> hits)

 

instead of that

 

I never seem to feel full. In fact, I can't

> remember the last

> time I really felt " full. " I don'know .

 

because satisfaction is produced whever we eat

anything we need those things unnecesary we try to

avoid them even when they are healthy, hence in my

opinion we should fight for getting control of our

self being free insteas of victims of our desires

 

I often

> get the feeling of

> distension and nausea after eating too much, but for

> some

> reason I feel like I could always choke down a

> significant amount

> more.

 

This express spleen qi is unable for transport and

transformation that is why

 

I'm very thin and don't seem to be

> gaining any

> weight from this.

in other tems when it says

I also am not fatigued (sleep only

> about 5.5 -

> 6.5 hrs./night---Nei Kung is terrific)

this suggestt to things

there is deficient of Xue in charde of supporting

Shen or there is bad distribution of Xue because of

Qi deficientcy .

 

, seem to

> urine quite

> frequently even without need of much water, and

> often have cold

> limbs and extremeties even in summer.

 

that means that Kitney qi is unable to control liquids

and sending back to liquids metabolism at the same

time is unable to control urination.

 

Therefore in this case there is deficiency of Qi for

warming the body that is why it feels cold everytime

 

 

Does this

> sound like a

> certain symptom of something? I'm willing to provide

> more

> information if necessary.

>

>

 

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Holistica(Acupuntura,Masaje,Dieta,Herbologia chinas) Domicilio:Telef

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