Thyroid vs TCM/Kinesiology

[Guest guest]

Hi.

I've come across a person with thyroid/metabolism problems (diagnosed

goitre/struma). Does anyone know how TCM or Applied kinesiology or else

can be used here?

 

As far as I know these kind of problems come from high stress and is a

seen on many burnt out people - which we see more and more of today. I'm

really interested if anyone has experience on this issue. Articles and

such also welcome of course.

 

Janne

[Guest guest]

Janne,

There are some things on thyroid, hypo and I believe hyper, in the

archive if you search on it. I was looking at them myself because I

am hypothyroid, but have not had a chance to try any of the ideas out

yet.

 

" Healing with Whole Foods " by Paul Pritchford is a really good book

that was just discussed on the list. It gives symptoms of imbalances

and recommendations for correcting it through diet as it relates to

the chinese system.

 

Good luck. I think that my problem may be related to a kidney

imbalance. I have been hypothyroid since 6th grade and without

medicine I would be in serious shape, but medicine does not always

correct everything about it, as I hear from many on the bulletin

boards that discussion thyroid dysfunction.

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Jan-Erik Spetz " <jan-erik.spetz@c...>

wrote:

> Hi.

> I've come across a person with thyroid/metabolism problems

(diagnosed

> goitre/struma). Does anyone know how TCM or Applied kinesiology or

else

> can be used here?

>

> As far as I know these kind of problems come from high stress and

is a

> seen on many burnt out people - which we see more and more of

today. I'm

> really interested if anyone has experience on this issue. Articles

and

> such also welcome of course.

>

> Janne

[Guest guest]

Janne,

If you go into www.google.com and search on +TCM +hypothyroid

there is a lot of information and ideas for people with the

condition, or hyperthyroid if that is what you are interested in.

 

Thanks for promping that idea, lots of stuff there and I didn't

know that peaches could interfere with my medicine absorption. So

much to know...

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Jan-Erik Spetz " <jan-erik.spetz@c...>

wrote:

> Hi.

> I've come across a person with thyroid/metabolism problems

(diagnosed

> goitre/struma). Does anyone know how TCM or Applied kinesiology or

else

> can be used here?

>

> As far as I know these kind of problems come from high stress and

is a

> seen on many burnt out people - which we see more and more of

today. I'm

> really interested if anyone has experience on this issue. Articles

and

> such also welcome of course.

>

> Janne

[Guest guest]

I,ve had a couple of clients with hypothyroid and hyper. All of

them had an issue of chronic frustration and repressed anger in

their lives(Gall Bladder/Liver), AND not being able to voice

their emotions/opinions and so forth on account of a very

domineering mother, or husband or other members of family.

Marcos

 

: " turtledragonscove " <turtledragonscove Janne,

There are some things on thyroid, hypo and I believe hyper, in

the

archive if you search on it. I was looking at them myself

because I

am hypothyroid, but have not had a chance to try any of the ideas

out

yet.

 

" Healing with Whole Foods " by Paul Pritchford is a really good

book

that was just discussed on the list. It gives symptoms of

imbalances

and recommendations for correcting it through diet as it relates

to

the chinese system.

 

Good luck. I think that my problem may be related to a kidney

imbalance. I have been hypothyroid since 6th grade and without

medicine I would be in serious shape, but medicine does not

always

correct everything about it, as I hear from many on the bulletin

boards that discussion thyroid dysfunction.

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Jan-Erik Spetz "

<jan-erik.spetz@c...>

wrote:

> Hi.

> I've come across a person with thyroid/metabolism problems

(diagnosed

> goitre/struma). Does anyone know how TCM or Applied kinesiology

or

else

> can be used here?

>

> As far as I know these kind of problems come from high stress

and

is a

> seen on many burnt out people - which we see more and more of

today. I'm

> really interested if anyone has experience on this issue.

Articles

and

> such also welcome of course.

>

> Janne

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> As far as I know these kind of problems come from high stress and

is a

> seen on many burnt out people - which we see more and more of

today. I'm

> really interested if anyone has experience on this issue. Articles

and

> such also welcome of course.

 

Some cases of hypothyroidism have an infection component. The person

briefly may be hyperthyroid and then become and stay hypo as the body

becomes more exhausted and depleted.

 

From a TCM standpoint, consider and rule in or rule out Latent Heat,

Cold-Induced Evil (particularly the later stages), or Virulent Heat

Evil in these cases in addition to the usual TCM imbalances that may

be seen in cases of hypothyroidism (Qi Deficiency, Kidney Deficiency,

Yang Deficiency, Yin Deficiency, Liver imbalance, etc.).

 

I have a history of off-again, on-again thyroid problems dating back

to when I was a young child. In every single case the thyroid

problems were occuring in conjunction with bouts of mononucleosis

(glandular fever) or mono-like illnesses. They also were occuring in

conjunction with my being exhausted and burnt out.

 

In these cases it's not enough to treat just the underlying TCM

Deficiency or imbalance or Western deficiency. The Latent Heat or

Cold-Induced or Virulent Heat issues also have to be addressed.

Everything has to be addressed. This can be tricky, but it can be

done. These are cases where the person has to be monitored and

treatment changed frequently until balance is restored.

 

In cases where there is a viral component to the hypothyroidism, the

person often will report a history of infection (that was not easy to

get over) prior to the hypothyroidism or a problem with being prone

to infection.

 

Victoria

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Chinese Traditional Medicine, marcos lacerda <ishk18> wrote:

> I,ve had a couple of clients with hypothyroid and hyper. All of

> them had an issue of chronic frustration and repressed anger in

> their lives(Gall Bladder/Liver), AND not being able to voice

> their emotions/opinions and so forth on account of a very

> domineering mother, or husband or other members of family.

 

Thanks.

 

There are people who make other people sick. Often they go beyond

merely being domineering or overly controlling to being suppressive,

oppressive, underminding, and constantly belittling. These are people

who will brook no " opposition " - including not allowing others to

speak up and voice honest emotions and even the mildest of

disagreement.

 

Sometimes the only solution is to get away from the oppresive

individual. The oppresive individual is incapable of change and

doesn't want to change and could care less about others.

 

The victim also may need counseling to help him/her overcome the

negative conditioning and learn to be able to speak up, or s/he will

continue to automatically react to all people in a constrained

manner. Often it's a lot easier to take a person out of an abusive

situation than to take the conditioning out of the person.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine, marcos lacerda <ishk18> wrote:

> I,ve had a couple of clients with hypothyroid and hyper. All of

> them had an issue of chronic frustration and repressed anger in

> their lives(Gall Bladder/Liver), AND not being able to voice

> their emotions/opinions and so forth on account of a very

> domineering mother, or husband or other members of family.

 

A little bit more on this for the readers new to TCM:

 

TCM takes a very holistic view of things, understanding that nothing

occurs in isolation. No where is this more apparent than in 5 Element

Theory.

 

There are some basic 5 Element concepts. One of these is the " Mother-

Son " rule. Briefly, whatever one does to the " Mother " will produce a

like change in the " Son " . The Mother and Son refers to Elements and

by extension to meridians and Organs. For example, Water is

the " Mother " of " Wood " . Tonify the " Mother " to tonify the " Son " . For

exmple, when Liver (Wood) Yin is Deficient, often the best approach

is to tonify the Kidneys (Water). The tonified Kidneys are then

capable of supplying the Liver with Yin. They have it to supply.

 

Sometimes, something goes wrong in the " Mother-Son " relationship, and

one has a situation called " Son Robbing Mother " . Situations in which

repressed anger is leading to a person being more vulnerable to

infection or to other problems involving the immune system and

resistence to stress can be cases of the Son (Liver) robbing the

Mother (Kidneys). (In TCM, many of the functions assigned to the

adrenals in Western medicine are considered part of the Kidney in

TCM.)

 

Another relationship in 5 Element Theory is the Victor-Vanguished

relationship. This is an inverse relationship. Whatever is happening

or done to the " Victor " will have the opposite effect on

the " Vanguished " . For example, Wood (Liver, Gall Bladder) exists in a

Victor-Vanquished relationship to Earth (Spleen, Stomach). If the

Liver is in Excess, it can suppress the Spleen and Stomach. In other

words, the Liver can be the Root various digestive system problems.

Subdue Wood (Liver) in order to strenghten Earth (Spleen and Stomach).

 

Digestive system problems often need to be a priority in healing. If

the digestion is poor, this can trigger a host of other problems from

both a TCM and Western standpoint. The most obvious TCM problem is

eventual Qi Deficiency because the Spleen plays such a key role in Qi

accumulation in the body. From a Western standpoint, the person is

not able to obtain the vitamins and minerals and other things needed

not only for repair but for keeping the body running smoothly.

 

Victoria