Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 > > I have a few patients with Spleen Qi deficiency with or without a > Liver > > involvement. I can stop the diarrhea, I can regulate the Liver and > > Spleen without too much problem, but there is one symtpom I've had > > trouble really getting at... > > > > With intestinal dampness there can arrive a sort of greasy exudate > that > > comes from the rectum. It can stain the underwear or just be > generally uncomfortable. > > > > I've tried drying dampness with a few different approaches, but none > > have successfully gotten through to this one symptom. My first > thought > > is to use aromatics such as cang zhu, sha ren, huo xiang, chen pi > and > > hou po. But they didn't work. > > > > I tried tonifying the kidneys too, though it is possible that one > month > > wasn't quite enough to tell. > > > > Anyway there are herbs that addres specific dampness issues in > > particular parts of the body but I have yet to find anything > specific to > > this leaky butt syndrome. > > > > Any ideas? Hi Al Stone, what you described reminded me of a dripping nose. Analyse the action of ShenLingBaiZhuSan-formula, how jie-geng is used to activate the lung, and yiyiren,baibiandou,lianzi to remove dampness. Mung-beans and little red beans (ludou, chixiaodou) also remove dampness. Analyse RenShenBaiDuSan-formula, it also works via lungs to remove diarrhea. My teacher gave me his variation to study: renshen, fangfeng, zhike, chaihu, bohe,fuling (char -until black- fangfeng, zhike,fuling to direct their action to the bowels). Forget for a moment what your book says about this formula and analyse it without prejudice. I just wanted to put a little stress on the lung functions (which doesnt mean that it will be the cure for your patients). And we tend to diagnose 'dampness' too fast/easily. As you might now there is the kidney-yang deficiency (5'o'clock-) diarrhea treated using SiShenWan-formula with obvious yang-def. symptoms. For severe conditions (cant hold it, like water) add hezi, yinsuke, shiliupi. Channels: Jing-luo is translated in a single word as 'channels'.But Liver-channel is a jing, penis is luo-tissue. Corresponding skin- regions and muscle-channels are still missing in many books. I said to my teacher: According to these books this herb is neutral and acts there and here. He said, " that book is wrong, it is not neutral,it is warm and also acts there and there. " I assume translators want to save time by omitting classic books side notes. Even the simplest actions from BenCaoGangMu are yet to be translated. like LongYanRou actions: 'leads into spleen and improves mental skills' 'nourishes blood calms mind, increases knowledge holds back sweat, improves appetite nourishes spleen' is an excerpt of what untranslated classics say about it, compare it with what your book says...the secrets of mind-improving herbals, yummy Who I am? I studied chinese, went to peking a couple of times (you get addicted to bicycling on hiway-broad roads), I firmly stayed away from OM-schools/-universities and healers associated with them (though I appreciate their existance a lot). So I got to know 'by chance' some old teachers who said 'hey, thats the ancient way, the old spirit of studying, please let me be the first to teach you and introduce you to my friends, recommend you books, take lessons from my other pupils.' quote: " with this instruction book you can heal 80%, with that one 98% " , thats when I started thinking about all the books that are around, most of them insufficient translations+compilations. I recommend the book 'a qin bowei anthology' (paradigm'97) to get an idea what advanced lessons one gets from a master. It has a lame title but is a unique teaching book. back to who I am...I am a handsome, cheerful, multi-gifted guy speaking german, turkish, chinese, english. I prescribe 0.5-2g/day from each herb, usually 10-15 herbs. I don't do acupuncture. Greetings, Tay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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