RE:snoring :my experience and assumed translation error

[Guest guest]

> " Snoring is usually due to Phlegm affecting the Stomach channel and

to

> rebellious Qi in the three Yang channels of the leg.

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....is the description of 'stuffed nose-,deep nose-syndrom'

From my personal experience snoring is due to loose tissue because of

spleen-deficiency (liver and kidney origin/involvement and

antibiotics usage in history should be checked).

 

 

> " Those who suffer from rebellious Qi cannot sleep well and have

noisy

> breathing (snoring), this is due to rebellious Qi in the Bright

Yang

> channels. When the Qi of the three Yang channels of the leg cannot

flow

> down and rebels upwards it causes insomnia and snoring. "

>

> Giovanni Maciocia, The Practice of , p. 285.)

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I assume Maciocia misunderstood 'noisy breathing' (as it accompanies

a sinusitis) with snoring.

Bladder (Greater Yang), Gall

Bladder (Lesser Yang), and Stomach (Bright Yang) meridians describe

the places which western medicine associates with sinus.

 

I took notice of this translation 'error' when I read the patent

medicine recommending:

pe min kan wan

Magnolia Flower, Xanthium Fruit, Patchouli herb, Mint, Angelica Bai

Zhi root, Honeysuckle flower, Chrysanthemum flower

These clear above channels from wind, heat, phlegm, open orifices.

This is a *pure* symptomatic remedy, which wont cure the underlying

disease mechanisms.

Noisy breathing (and the snoring that accompanies it sometimes) and

rebellious(whatever that means)Qi will be cured but above herbs use

body fluids to work, and might have a drying side-effect.

 

I wouldnt use above recipe for a person with only snoring without

wind/heat/phlegm affection.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like my husband. What points do you suggest?

 

Susan Arnold

 

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tayfx

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:45 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] RE:snoring :my experience and assumed translation error

> "Snoring is usually due to Phlegm affecting the Stomach channel and to > rebellious Qi in the three Yang channels of the leg.-----------------------...is the description of 'stuffed nose-,deep nose-syndrom'From my personal experience snoring is due to loose tissue because of spleen-deficiency (liver and kidney origin/involvement and antibiotics usage in history should be checked). > "Those who suffer from rebellious Qi cannot sleep well and have noisy > breathing (snoring), this is due to rebellious Qi in the Bright Yang > channels. When the Qi of the three Yang channels of the leg cannot flow > down and rebels upwards it causes insomnia and snoring."> > Giovanni Maciocia, The Practice of , p. 285.)------------------------------I assume Maciocia misunderstood 'noisy breathing' (as it accompanies a sinusitis) with snoring.Bladder (Greater Yang), Gall Bladder (Lesser Yang), and Stomach (Bright Yang) meridians describe the places which western medicine associates with sinus.I took notice of this translation 'error' when I read the patent medicine recommending: pe min kan wanMagnolia Flower, Xanthium Fruit, Patchouli herb, Mint, Angelica Bai Zhi root, Honeysuckle flower, Chrysanthemum flowerThese clear above channels from wind, heat, phlegm, open orifices.This is a *pure* symptomatic remedy, which wont cure the underlying disease mechanisms.Noisy breathing (and the snoring that accompanies it sometimes) and rebellious(whatever that means)Qi will be cured but above herbs use body fluids to work, and might have a drying side-effect.I wouldnt use above recipe for a person with only snoring without wind/heat/phlegm affection. Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine