Fwd: Blue Poppy Press - Gu Parasites & Yin Fire Theory

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This is a very rich article that readers may want to print out and study

over time.

 

A central idea in this article is that yes, there really are complex cases

( " knotty problems " ) in which there are both Deficiency and Excess, Cold and

Hot, Dampness and Dryness, etc. These cases are NOT the TCM equivalent of

hypochrondia. Neither the patient nor the healer are imagining things.

There really are cases this complicated and complex, and thus, the treatment

will be complex. One will have to treat the Hot at the same time the Cold

is treated, treat the Dampness and Dryness at the same time, supplement the

Deficiency and drain the the Excess at the same time, and " support and

attack " at the same time. And don't be surprised if if in addition to Spleen

Deficiency, Liver Qi Stagnation, and Deficiency or Damp Heat is found, one

also finds " Blood, Yin, and/or Fluid Deficiency, Heat disturbing the Lungs "

and/or Heart, and " possible Kidney Yang Deficiency. "

 

The article gives the broad outline of how to go about treating these

complex, multiple, " knotty " problems. It gives the basic herbal strategy

with some examples of herbs, and it makes it very plain that herbs and

acupuncture/acupressure are not going to be enough in these cases. The diet

is going to need to be changed. Yes, I know that dietary recommendations

frequently are given for a variety of simpler, more straightforward TCM

problems, and that changes in diet are necessary before simpler problems

clear up completely. It's a matter of degree. The client with simpler, more

straightforward problems may be able to gain a great deal of improvement

just from the herbs and acupuncture. The person with Yin Fire and Gu

Parasite problems that have gone on for some time will not be able to obtain

great improvement just from herbs and acupuncture/ acupressure (and vitamin

and mineral supplements, and prescription drug treatment) without the

changes in diet. Just look at various longterm candidiasis problems and

various other fungal and yeast problems as an examples. Yes, the first

flareup may respond to prescription drug treatment and the person may

experience significant improvement to where the candidiasis or other fungal

or yeast problems don't interfere with the daily functioning. But then the

next major flare-up occurs, and this time the prescription drugs and other

measures aren't as effective as the first time. The time after this, the

drugs are even less effective. Eventually a state is reached in which the

person is tired/ exhausted all the time, has mutiple problems, and the drugs

at best give only temporary, very partial relief. The underlying Roots that

give rise to the fungal and yeast infections have never been addressed.

(Note: It may be a good idea for people who are susceptible to fungal and

yeast infections - people on antibiotic therapy, people who require

long-term IV treatments, people facing and who undergone heart surgery,

people on corticosteroids, people requiring catheters, people with

hematologic malignancies, people who are immunosuppressed, and

post-operative patients - to follow an anti-yeast, anti-fungal diet as a

preventative measure. Don't hang out the welcome sign for candidiasis.

Don't allow the conditions in the body to be highly hospitable for

candidiasis. Make it harder for candidiasis to invade and get a foothold or

to multiply if it's already present by by using diet as a preventative

measure.)

 

One of the interesting things about diet for some conditions is that both

Western doctors and TCM literature recommend the same base - rice. If

you're familiar with the nutritional concoctions used in the West to treat

Leaky Gut Syndrome and various other long-term, debilitating digestive

system problems, the base often is rice. Western healers and Eastern

healers arrived at the same conclusion through very different systems of

healing and for different reasons. In the West, rice is recognized as one

of the foods that is less likely to trigger allergic reactions and is

somewhat easy to digest. In the East it is recognized that unlike wheat,

rice is not Damp-engendering. (Dampness often is a component of what is

called allergies in the West. Dampness and allergies are NOT equivalent. A

person can have Dampness problems without having allergies. But a person

who has allergies frequently will have Dampness problems.

 

I would add Qi Gong exercises to the herb, acupuncture/ acupressure, and

diet recommendations for Gu and Yin Fire problems. Note: In some cases of

CFIDS, the person may need to be brought up to a certain level via herbs,

acupuncture/ acupressure, and diet before the person can do Qi Gong. The

person may be too debilitated before this level is reached for even Qi Gong.

After the level is reached where Qi Gong is possible, the addition of Qi

Gong will result in more improvement and more rapid improvement. The herbs

and acupunture/ acupressure may work even better thanks to the addition of

the Qi Gong exercises.

 

Gu is a special type of parasite. People with Gu problems frequently have

problems with Ginseng. Rx Codonopsitis Pilosulae can be substituted for

Ginseng.

 

For more information on Gu problems, see the work of Heiner Fruehauf.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Judy Fitzgerald wrote:

> I would add Qi Gong exercises to the herb, acupuncture/ acupressure, and

> diet recommendations for Gu and Yin Fire problems. Note: In some cases of

> CFIDS, the person may need to be brought up to a certain level via herbs,

> acupuncture/ acupressure, and diet before the person can do Qi Gong. The

> person may be too debilitated before this level is reached for even Qi Gong.

 

I think you might have mentioned this about QiGong before as well.

Are you referring to specific types of QiGong? What is your reasoning?

I ask because the type of QiGong I do can be done by anyone, requires

no movements, can be done in any position, (so, for example, if someone

is too weak to sit up, they can remain laying down).

I'd be interested in the reasons that you feel that QiGong should not

be done, and which QiGongs you feel are contraindicated.

Thanks.

 

Jeri kurvenal

http://www.ameritech.net/users/kurvenal/kurvenal2.html

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>I think you might have mentioned this about QiGong before as well.

>Are you referring to specific types of QiGong?

 

No specific types.

 

>What is your reasoning?

>I ask because the type of QiGong I do can be done by anyone, requires

>no movements, can be done in any position, (so, for example, if someone

>is too weak to sit up, they can remain laying down).

 

Please give more details on this as I'm unfamiliar with it, and this may be

something that some of the sicker PWCs can do.

 

>I'd be interested in the reasons that you feel that QiGong should not

>be done, and which QiGongs you feel are contraindicated.

 

Regular Qi Gong can be done by PWCs, but only after they've reached a

certain level.

 

Not only is just about any exercising contraindicated before a certain level

is reached, it's impossible for many PWCs. I've known PWCs who did not have

the energy both to eat breakfast and brush their teeth. For that matter,

I've known PWCs who were too fatigued to chew their food and eat. CFIDS

fatigue can go way, way beyond any normal experience of fatigue. One doctor

who has CFIDS tries to explain it to other doctors by asking them to think

back to how tired they were when they were overworked residents. He then

tells them that the most tired they were then doesn't begin to approximate

the fatigue that can result from CFIDS. If the PWC is very sick, it's like

there are no reserves of energy left.

 

One of the hallmarks of CFIDS is that overdoing physically will make it

worse. Some strange things happen to PWCs when they overdo physically. In

a person without CFIDS, body temperature goes up and blood flow to the brain

increases when they exercise. In PWCs, the body temperature will go down

and blood flow to the brain decreases. It may take several days for blood

flow to the brain to return to normal.

 

Three weeks after starting on the TCM herbs that the herbalist gave me, one

day I had and knew I had what was needed to begin a very modest consistent

program of exercising. Prior to this I had improved via other means to the

point where I could have exercised. I just couldn't have done it

consistently. If I had tried it, it would have taken several days to

recover. At that point I was taking several days to recover from occasional

trips to see the doctor. It's like energy reserves are shot, and it takes

days for what little energy there can be to build back up. One of the big

turning points for me in all this was when I started being able to recoup

some energy after resting for just a few hours - provided I hadn't overdone

too much. This was recouping from some very basic things - like spending

time on the computer, fixing a meal, etc. Even today, as much improvement

as there has been, if I overdo too much, I sometimes have to spend the next

day resting. Today overdoing is spending too much time gardening or on

construction projects around the house. Before, overdoing was a trip into

town. During the worst time, overdoing was sitting up too long.

 

I'm very interested in the Qi Gong that could be done without the person

having to sit up. A majority of PWCs also have FMS, and stretching is very

important in treating FMS. I remember when I was still very sick but had

improved some thanks to the supplements. This was years before I discovered

TCM. At that time I didn't even know I had CFIDS and FMS. As I was waking

up of a morning I would start stretching while still half asleep and in bed.

No one told me to do this; it was spontaneous. And it helped. Sometimes

the body knows what to do.

 

Unfortunately, there's a lot of erroneous information about CFIDS thanks to

insurance companies and governments that don't want to pay the disability

benefits and to a British psychiatrist in particular that governments and

companies hire whenever they want a " study " saying something is all in

people's heads. What the British psychiatrist did was to dump the CDC

(Centers for Disease Control) criteria for CFS (even though Great Britain

and other UK countries signed an international agreement to use the CDC

criteria), substituted his own very broad criteria (which just about anyone

who has ever been fatigued for any reason would fit), called his criteria

CFS criteria (even though it's not), and came up with a " treatment " which

relies heavily on forced exercise. Unfortunately, if a person really does

have CFIDS, this treatment makes the person a lot sicker.

 

BTW, some consider CFIDS a wastebasket diagnosis. If one rules out

everything else, then the person is given a diagnosis of CFS/ CFIDS. This

is a part of the erroneous ideas about CFIDS. In truth, doctors who treat a

lot of PWCs say that CFIDS has its own distinct profile. There are

typical things the patient will say and typical lab results. Other things

still have to be ruled out because CFIDS can mimic so many different things

- lupus, MS, leukemia, autoimmune disorders, etc.

 

Another erroneous idea is that it's untreatable. It can be treated, and

treated very successfully in most cases, especially if it's caught early and

proper treatment is started early. But lifestyle changes have to be a part

of the treatment. I had it for 19 years before I was diagnosed. I had it

well over 20 years before I started on TCM treatment, and I've made great

progress. Through the years before I knew what I had, I and my doctors were

stumbling on things that helped so I was able to gain partial remissions.

What finally put me into partial remission after the second major flare-up

was my doctor realizing I was hypoglycemic and me going on a diet that

eliminated sugar. There were some other things that helped as well, but it

took changing my diet before I got any significant progress. This is part

of why I find the artile on Gu parasites so interesting. Even then, I

couldn't regain all of what I had lost with the 2nd major flare-up. Or the

3rd. Or the 4th. It was progressive. But after I started on the TCM

treatment I did start to regain things that I had thought were lost forever.

 

Victoria

 

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