Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 Thanks to Dr. Jacobs and Colleen for permission to forward this over. I forwarded it over because it underscores the importance of knowing what you are working with and the importance of individualizing treatment. There are no one size fits all therapies. Victoria > " Thaddeus Jacobs " <drtjacobs >discusschineseherbs ><discusschineseherbs > >Re: [discusschineseherbs] very sick women >Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:49:34 -0700 > >Rita, I have a difficult time with your logic here. You say: " I don't >have >a complete assessment on her......She has had diabetes for a long >time, recently just had two heart attacks, damage was to the lower part of >the heart and just yesterday she was told there were >cancerous cells in her blood. The doctors are not sure if it is lung, >breast or ovarian cancer....I know how to treat this with oils, diet, >nutrition >and western herbs. " > >How can you possibly " know " how to treat this problem? Diet, nutrition, >the >use of oils and the use of herbs ALWAYS depends on the unique aspects of >each and every cancer patient. You absolutely need to aquire a " complete " >assessment first before you do any thing. My rationalle: >1. Diet & Nutrition- There are a number of reasons why you can't make >general dietary suggestions at this point other than telling your patient >to >eat balanced meals of wholesome foods. Food, in itself, is medicine. One >example (and I could state several) is that you don't necessarily want to >go >ahead and remove all meat from the diet and have the patient eat only >tofu/soy for a protein source. What if the cancer is ER+ (estrogen >receptor >positive)? Could be bad news. >2. Oils - Research show that nutritional oils such as flax oil and other >polyunsaturated essential fatty acid sources can actually increase the risk >of certain cancers and even stimulate the growth of certain cancers. >Bottom >line, you need to find out what you're dealing with. >3. Western herbs - You got me there. Maybe you know something I don't >know. I, however; don't know of any western or eastern herbs that can >effectively combat all cancers. Herbs are potent medicines. They have >distinct pharmacologic (and energetic) effect on the body. Sometimes the >effect is undesireable such as, for example again, the effect herbs with >estrogenic activity have on stimulating ER+ cancer cells. > From a herbal Chinese medicine perspective, there is a two-fold >approach >to treating cancer. One angle on the prescription (the modern one) employs >the use of herbs know to treat specific cancers and tumors based upon >research and anecdotal knowledge. The other angle incorporates the more >traditional method of using the most appropriate prescription based upon >the >patients complete intake information (which you say you don't have). >Overlaying these approaches has led to miraculous results in some cases, >significant improvement in many cases and failure in the rest of the cases. >Complexety of results unfortunately reflects the complicated nature of >these >diseases. > >In dealing with this patient in the future, I would suggest urging her to >get as much information regarding her condition as possible as this will >greatly enhance her chances of attaining successful results from your >treatments. Tell her that you'd rather not risk doing her harm by making >shots in the dark -so to speak. > >Thaddeus Jacobs, N.D., L.Ac. > > >- >Rita Hoover <rmrhoover ><discusschineseherbs > >Thursday, June 15, 2000 5:40 AM >[discusschineseherbs] very sick women > > > > female age 77, I don't have a complete assessment on her. However > > here is what she is experiencing. She has had diabetes for a long > > time, recently just had two heart attacks, damage was to the lower > > part of the heart and just yesterday she was told there were > > cancerous cells in her blood. The doctors are not sure if it is > > lung, breast or ovarian cancer. > > > > She will not go back for any more tests. She will not take any more > > medicine. > > > > I know it would be nice to know which cancer we are dealing with. > > She wants to try natural ways to heal her body. The doctors are > > pretty much done. > > > > Any suggestions? I know how to treat this with oils, diet, nutrition > > and western herbs, but am not sure how the chinese address cancer. > > Yes, it would be nice to know which organ, but I don't think we can > > get her back to the hospital for that. However before leaving, she > > did take some xrays, so I am hoping there will be some answers > > there. > > > > I will be doing a complete assessment for her Friday afternoon, but > > would like some suggestions before I go. > > > > Thanks Group!!! > > > > Rita > > > > > > ------ > > TRAVEL FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! 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