Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Well Thank You Mike,I very much appreciated your answer and I will certainly keep it to heart. Please could you tell me what the exact copper to Zinc ratio a healthy body should have. Also please could you tell me what role zinc plays in the body and why copper is bad for someone deficient in Zinc.Thanks again.Love in Jesus.Ian--- On Fri, 17/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: To Mikeoleander soup Date: Friday, 17 October, 2008, 10:51 PM Although copper is an essential trace mineral it needs to be in balance with zinc. Most Americans, it can be argued, are zinc deficient already. To add supplemental copper to the mix would precipitate an exacerbation of the zinc deficiency. It's generally prudent to avoid copper exposure, particularly from inorganic sources. In cancer it is not only prudent, but essential (to avoid it). Most problems, with the exception of some aneurysms, related to copper are not deficiencies, but they are problems of copper excess. Wilson's Disease is the classic, full blown outcome.This contraindication is not just for advanced cases. Copper stimulates new blood vessel growth which is an essential part of metastasis.There are much better ways to deal with hypothetical parasites.MikeIan Watson <iw140265 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>oleander soupFriday, October 17, 2008 9:01:29 AM To Mike Hi MikeYes you are right copper does do this. However I must point out two things here:1. Copper is an essential mineral our body needs.2. The patristic cleanse was short term only to give long term benefits.The only reason not do a parasitic cleanse this way I think would be because:1. The person has a very advanced stage of cancer.2. The person has a very aggressive form of cancer.Yes Mike it is good to express caution here, so it must be carefully weighed in the person's mind whether or not to do a parasitic cleanse in this way.Love in JesusIan--- On Thu, 16/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: RE To Rhoda and Janetoleander soupThursday, 16 October, 2008, 11:04 PM A word of caution: Copper stimulates angeogenesis in tumors. In other words, copper will increase the growth rate of cancer.Mikeyahsway <Yahsway (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, October 16, 2008 9:21:14 PMRE To Rhoda and Janet Where do you get water soluble copper mineral water?  oleander soup [ oleander soup ] On Behalf Of Ian Watson Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:00 PM oleander soup [sPAM]oleander soup To Rhoda and Janet  Dear Rhoda and Janet I have been looking into why your conditions have not been getting any better. The following information may or may not help you but it maybe worth looking into. We know how important nutrition is to the body. Many people have a parasite problem, some are microscopic while others can grow many feet in length. Parasites can lower the immune system by stealing the nutrition the body needs. Would it be at all possible that you both may suffer from this problem as this may explain why your conditions are not getting better. A great way to deal with the problem of parasites is to drink some water soluble copper mineral water. If it turns out that you have this problem the Water soluble copper mineral water will kill the parasites and worms so this will then make it possible for your bodies to get the full nutriton that they need and should result in a better functioning Immune system. This information is a shot in the dark but it may help you both. In the Love of the God of Israel . Ian  Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 http://www.drkaslow.com/html/zinc-copper_imbalances.html Copper/Zinc Imbalance The human body has an elaborate system for managing and regulating the amount of key trace metals such as zinc, copper, iron, manganese, chromium, etc. circulating in blood and stored in cells. Nutrient metals from our diet are (1) incorporated into blood if blood levels are depleted, (2) transported into cells if cellular levels are inadequate, or (3) excreted if blood and cell levels are sufficient or overloaded. When this system fails to function properly, abnormal levels of trace metals can develop in the brain and other parts of the body. One of the most common trace-metal imbalances is elevated copper and depressed zinc (the optimal plasma or serum ratio is 0.70 - 1.00). The ratio of copper to zinc is clinically more important than the concentration of either of these trace metals. Ian Watson <iw140265oleander soup Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:47:54 PM Thank You Mike Well Thank You Mike, I very much appreciated your answer and I will certainly keep it to heart. Please could you tell me what the exact copper to Zinc ratio a healthy body should have. Also please could you tell me what role zinc plays in the body and why copper is bad for someone deficient in Zinc. Thanks again. Love in Jesus. Ian--- On Fri, 17/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: To Mikeoleander soupFriday, 17 October, 2008, 10:51 PM Although copper is an essential trace mineral it needs to be in balance with zinc. Most Americans, it can be argued, are zinc deficient already. To add supplemental copper to the mix would precipitate an exacerbation of the zinc deficiency. It's generally prudent to avoid copper exposure, particularly from inorganic sources. In cancer it is not only prudent, but essential (to avoid it). Most problems, with the exception of some aneurysms, related to copper are not deficiencies, but they are problems of copper excess. Wilson's Disease is the classic, full blown outcome.This contraindication is not just for advanced cases. Copper stimulates new blood vessel growth which is an essential part of metastasis.There are much better ways to deal with hypothetical parasites.Mike Ian Watson <iw140265 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>oleander soupFriday, October 17, 2008 9:01:29 AM To Mike Hi MikeYes you are right copper does do this. However I must point out two things here:1. Copper is an essential mineral our body needs.2. The patristic cleanse was short term only to give long term benefits.The only reason not do a parasitic cleanse this way I think would be because:1. The person has a very advanced stage of cancer.2. The person has a very aggressive form of cancer.Yes Mike it is good to express caution here, so it must be carefully weighed in the person's mind whether or not to do a parasitic cleanse in this way.Love in JesusIan--- On Thu, 16/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: RE To Rhoda and Janetoleander soupThursday, 16 October, 2008, 11:04 PM A word of caution: Copper stimulates angeogenesis in tumors. In other words, copper will increase the growth rate of cancer.Mike yahsway <Yahsway (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, October 16, 2008 9:21:14 PMRE To Rhoda and Janet Where do you get water soluble copper mineral water? oleander soup [ oleander soup ] On Behalf Of Ian WatsonThursday, October 16, 2008 9:00 PMoleander soup[sPAM]oleander soup To Rhoda and Janet Dear Rhoda and JanetI have been looking into why your conditions have not been getting any better.The following information may or may not help you but it maybe worth looking into. We know how important nutrition is to the body.Many people have a parasite problem, some are microscopic while others can grow many feet in length. Parasites can lower the immune system by stealing the nutrition the body needs.Would it be at all possible that you both may suffer from this problem as this may explain why your conditions are not getting better.A great way to deal with the problem of parasites is to drink some water soluble copper mineral water.If it turns out that you have this problem the Water soluble copper mineral waterwill kill the parasites and worms so this will then make it possible for your bodies to get the full nutriton that they need and should result in a better functioning Immune system.This information is a shot in the dark but it may help you both.In the Love of the God of Israel .Ian Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Thank You for the Info MikeLove in JesusIan--- On Mon, 20/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: Thank You Mikeoleander soup Date: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 1:59 PM http://www.drkaslow .com/html/ zinc-copper_ imbalances. html   Copper/Zinc Imbalance The human body has an elaborate system for managing and regulating the amount of key trace metals such as zinc, copper, iron, manganese, chromium, etc. circulating in blood and stored in cells. Nutrient metals from our diet are (1) incorporated into blood if blood levels are depleted, (2) transported into cells if cellular levels are inadequate, or (3) excreted if blood and cell levels are sufficient or overloaded. When this system fails to function properly, abnormal levels of trace metals can develop in the brain and other parts of the body. One of the most common trace-metal imbalances is elevated copper and depressed zinc (the optimal plasma or serum ratio is 0.70 - 1.00). The ratio of copper to zinc is clinically more important than the concentration of either of these trace metals. Ian Watson <iw140265 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>oleander soupSunday, October 19, 2008 8:47:54 PM Thank You Mike Well Thank You Mike, I very much appreciated your answer and I will certainly keep it to heart. Please could you tell me what the exact copper to Zinc ratio a healthy body should have. Also please could you tell me what role zinc plays in the body and why copper is bad for someone deficient in Zinc. Thanks again. Love in Jesus. Ian--- On Fri, 17/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: To Mikeoleander soupFriday, 17 October, 2008, 10:51 PM Although copper is an essential trace mineral it needs to be in balance with zinc. Most Americans, it can be argued, are zinc deficient already. To add supplemental copper to the mix would precipitate an exacerbation of the zinc deficiency. It's generally prudent to avoid copper exposure, particularly from inorganic sources. In cancer it is not only prudent, but essential (to avoid it). Most problems, with the exception of some aneurysms, related to copper are not deficiencies, but they are problems of copper excess. Wilson's Disease is the classic, full blown outcome.This contraindication is not just for advanced cases. Copper stimulates new blood vessel growth which is an essential part of metastasis.There are much better ways to deal with hypothetical parasites.Mike Ian Watson <iw140265 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>oleander soupFriday, October 17, 2008 9:01:29 AM To Mike Hi MikeYes you are right copper does do this. However I must point out two things here:1. Copper is an essential mineral our body needs.2. The patristic cleanse was short term only to give long term benefits.The only reason not do a parasitic cleanse this way I think would be because:1. The person has a very advanced stage of cancer.2. The person has a very aggressive form of cancer.Yes Mike it is good to express caution here, so it must be carefully weighed in the person's mind whether or not to do a parasitic cleanse in this way.Love in JesusIan--- On Thu, 16/10/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: RE To Rhoda and Janetoleander soupThursday, 16 October, 2008, 11:04 PM A word of caution: Copper stimulates angeogenesis in tumors. In other words, copper will increase the growth rate of cancer.Mike yahsway <Yahsway (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, October 16, 2008 9:21:14 PMRE To Rhoda and Janet Where do you get water soluble copper mineral water?  oleander soup [ oleander soup ] On Behalf Of Ian WatsonThursday, October 16, 2008 9:00 PMoleander soup[sPAM]oleander soup To Rhoda and Janet  Dear Rhoda and JanetI have been looking into why your conditions have not been getting any better.The following information may or may not help you but it maybe worth looking into. We know how important nutrition is to the body.Many people have a parasite problem, some are microscopic while others can grow many feet in length. Parasites can lower the immune system by stealing the nutrition the body needs.Would it be at all possible that you both may suffer from this problem as this may explain why your conditions are not getting better.A great way to deal with the problem of parasites is to drink some water soluble copper mineral water.If it turns out that you have this problem the Water soluble copper mineral waterwill kill the parasites and worms so this will then make it possible for your bodies to get the full nutriton that they need and should result in a better functioning Immune system.This information is a shot in the dark but it may help you both.In the Love of the God of Israel .Ian  Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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