Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 The Flu vaccine contains 25 mcg of mercury. The Flu mist is mercury free. The EPA limit for ingesting mercury is 6 mcg, I dont think its wise to get injected with mercury. Especially if you are pregnant! Bayer made Rhogam that contained 35 mcg of mercury, Bayer in 2003 Petitioned OEHHA to take thimerosal/mercury off the list of reproductive toxins, Here is OEHHA reply to Bayer. OEHHA (Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assesment) reports; " The scientific evidence that PMA and Thimerosal cause reproductive toxcitity is CLEAR and VOLUMINOUS. The evidence for its reproductive toxcitity includes severe mental retardation or malformations in human offspring who were poisoned when thier mothers were exposed to ethylmercury or thimerosal while pregnant. " http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/CRNR_notices/pdf_zip/hgbayer1.pdf Why is the CDC recommending the Flu vaccine to pregnant women? Its criminal! Donna On 5/11/05, Leone Booth <Suziebee wrote: > At the moment , winter, there are two immunisation programmes in progress. > The first meningococcal B, and secondly the flu vaccination. I am interested > in the general opinion of the group, especially on the flu vaccination, > which does not use a live vaccine. Leone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Leone, Well, generally speaking, I wouldn't get any vaccine. As far as the flu vaccine goes, there's a whole slew of different flu strains and only one strain is vaccinated against. Odds are that those who are vaccinated have a better chance of coming into contact with a form that is not being vaccinated against. In fact, as I write this, my sister is sitting at home in bed with the flu and she got the flu shot because she works at a hospital that apparently requires it. Lot a good that did. I am sorry that I am little short on time, or I would send a whole bunch of links regarding the other reasons not to get the flu shot, i.e. mercury, the dangers of it and more. In regards to the meninigococcal B that you mentioned, I really don't know anything at all about it. Perhaps some one else in the group who does will speak up though. Why do you ask in the first place? Are you trying to decide to get these or are you simply questioning the groups' feelings? Kelly At the moment , winter, there are two immunisation programmes in progress. The first meningococcal B, and secondly the flu vaccination. I am interested in the general opinion of the group, especially on the flu vaccination, which does not use a live vaccine. Leone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Mara, Excellent post! BTW, have you ever used colloidal silver/gold to prevent/treat cold and flu? Cheers, Phil =========================================== - Maracuja oleander soup Saturday, October 04, 2008 6:37 AM Re: Flu Vax info in Chinese?/Maracuja Hello Bonnie, Check out the Walgreens Vax Admin Record for flu & pneumococcal vaccines next time you're there - Section C absolves them of any responsibility if you should suffer "pain at the injection site, headache, fever, paralysis, muscle pain,, nerve pain, Guillain Barré Syndrome, encephalitis, or allergic reactions (including anaphylactic shock or death)" Its in small print of course. Section B asks questions such as: Do you have fever, diarrhea, or have you vomited today? Are you allergic to eggs or egg products, chicken proteins, phenol, formaldehyde,or formalin, gelatin, polyethylene glycol, thimerosal, or latex? Have you ever had a severe reaction to any vaccine? Have you ever had Guillain Barré Syndrome, a condition that causes paralysis? Have you ever had a pneumococcal or "pneuminia" shot? If yes, was the shot given to you before age 65? If yes,has it been at least 5 years since you were given the shot? Do you have any of the following chronic medical conditions listed below? Diabetes Cardiovascular disease (ex heart failure or cardiomyopathy) Pulmonary disease (ex COPD or emphysema) Cochlear implants Liver disease (ex cirrhosis, alcoholism) Cerebrospinal fluid leaks Asplenia (ex sickle cell anemia or splenectomy) Immunocompromised (ex HIV infection, leukemia, lymphoma, Hodgkin's disease, multiple myeloma, generalized malignancy, chronic renal failure, dialysis, nephrotic syndrome, on logterm corticosteroids, organ or bone marrow transplant recipient.) As for personal experience, DS had mercury vax DPT at age 6 mths.. For 16 days he was floppy and mewled apathetically like a wounded baby animal. For the following 4 days and nights he screamed - encephalitic screaming, absolutely frantic inconsolable screeching - I thought he would die of the effort. I carried him on my body for those 20 days & took him to the dr a dozen times. I was running on cortisol. The scream is unmistakeable & even the memory from over 30 yrs ago, raises the hair on my head. Dr's refer to it as high-pitched crying which barely does it justice. I was told that it was a 1:1,000,000 chance. Well we had a pop of about 3,500,000 at the time, yet I found out that 44 victims families were paid out in 5 years! Many more were refused compensation. Many more files were "lost", including my son's. After 96 hours he seized - back arched so that heels almost touched head, turned blue. If he had not been in my arms at the time, he would have died. He was not expected to live, but did. Not expected to walk, talk, or become continent, but did. Is now 34 yrs old. The headache is unbelievable according to an adult friend who had it. He threatened to kill the hospital gardener if he didn't turn the lawnmower off. He was on morphine. He found the energy to leap out of bed and threaten the nursing staff. Anther 3 friends got Guillain Barré Syndrome. One died, one is paralysed and one recovered by NOT using allopathy. Still has "tingly feet". Mercury is a known neurotoxin. That's the thimerosal mentioned above. They say they have taken it out of the vaccines now, but that is NOT true. Now they are offering flu jabs to babies & pregnant women. Since the beginning of time, humanity has been aware that mercury is toxic to brains! Except the last few centuries when allopaths thought it would make good medicine. WTH????? http://www.healingsearch.com/_ReportPages/flu_shots_increase_chances_of_al.htm The CDC states that 90% of deaths from influenza occur among the elderly. Considering that nearly 65% of all deaths (from any cause) occur in this age group, it is nearly impossible to prove that flu shots significantly increase life expectancy in this group. The truth is that most people-young and old-will weather a bout of the flu without hospitalization or complications. A serious concern: Alzheimer's Disesase Hugh Fudenberg, MD, an immunogeneticist and biologist with nearly 850 papers published in peer review journals, has reported that if an individual had five consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied), his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had zero, one, or two shots.[vii] Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair of the Department of Chemistry at the University of Kentucky, Lexington has done extensive research in the area of mercury toxicity and the brain. Haley's research has established a likely connection between mercury toxicity and Alzheimer's disease. [viii] In a paper published in collaboration with researchers at University of Calgary, Haley stated that "seven of the characteristic markers that we look for to distinguish Alzheimer's disease can be produced in normal brain tissues, or cultures of neurons, by the addition of extremely low levels of mercury."[ix] Does this prove that the mercury contained in the influenza shot can be directly linked to Alzheimer's? No, absolutely not. But further research in this area is critically needed because the absence of proof is not the "proof of absence."[x] Some vaccines contain aluminum and that is a neurotoxin linked with Alzheimers. There are 6 flu vaccines listed here, with the ingredients. One includes hydrocortisone! Some have antibiotics. How would you know if your baby is allergic to antibiotics? http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf There are other vaccines that contain the 2 cell lines (lung cells) from babies aborted in the 1960's. You can buy those cells today for about $75! I wonder if those poor mothers know that the drug co's make money off their tragedies and that their babies are immortalised in vaccines used worldwide, nearly 50 years later. I got my first flu within a week of the first jab at age 17. Never had a flu before. Required hospitalisation. Had 3 flus over the next 5 years, none half as bad as that first one. Never had another jab. Haven't had a flu in over 30 yrs now! Got amalgams removed, and did heavy metal detox specifically for mercury. No one in my family gets the flu jab any more. If they get the flu they "fast" on veg juices for a week. Everyone recovers faster than anyone else we know. 2nd DS got a flu once in his life. DH never had jab or flu. Hope this info helps. All the best, Maracuja --- On Sat, 10/4/08, evian793 <evian793 wrote: evian793 <evian793Re: Flu Vax info in Chinese?/Maracujaoleander soup Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:42 AM Well I have been getting flu shots off and on for a few years now but I am never getting another again and esp. since taking transfer factor plus has helped build my immunity also. Can I ask how do you know that flu shots have so many problems including the dreaded alzheimer's? Many thanks, Bonnie & ACody .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Wasn't that most fortunate? A friend in IN sent me the Walgreens Vax Admin Record, just in time for Bonnie's question! I haven't used silver as a flu preventative as it's been 13 years since DS#2 got his one & only flu. That was after his coach told him AB's would be a good idea for a sinus infection. we don't seem to get colds, although DS#2 gets a sinus infection after eating store bought ice cream - self-inflicted, AND I've given him a recipe for raw milk ice cream! There is something awful (perhaps several somethings) in the store bought stuff that leaves one open to ill-health. Non vaxing extended family don't get flu either! We use colloidal silver - the silver puppy equivalent from Australia - The Silver Well I think it's called. My major problem is severe eczema from being sprayed with Foray48B. Used homoeopathic Btk but of course, it didn't include all the garbage carrier & wetting and sticking agents of the poison that was sprayed during over 70 fixed-wing aircraft flights & untold low helicopter flights over about 4 years. We were 200m from the spray zone and managed to escape most flights, but sometimes they started at 5:30 am unannounced. Our home-grown veg was unusable - covered in a crunchy coating. So much for the silly "clean, green image" the press likes to characterise NZ as being. Colloidal silver certainly helps with infection! I spray it on & let it dry on my skin. Have spent thousands looking for alternatives to prednisone which I refuse to use. Seems like de-fatting more than anything, Tonight the immunologist rang from her home & wanted me in hospital for IV AB's. Not ever likely! Use fish & flax oil, Vit A, Vit B with extra PABA & biotin, 10gms Vit C per day, Astazan, chlorella, probiotics, enzymes etc etc. Fast fairly regularly and lost 15kgs in 6 mths of the steroid weight - which was 33kgs up in 10 mths! Gluten & dairy free diet at the moment. No good skin to do RAST test. Prick tests from years ago results - oysters, beef, grass pollen, household dust & animal dander. I think they may have all been false positives. LOL! Never used colloidal gold - yet. Gotta do some serious saving. The next outlay is for a renowned Chinese herbalist who has had much success with skin allergies, also want to do hair analysis. Bet you're sorry you asked! All the best, Maracuja --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Phillip wrote: Mara, Excellent post! BTW, have you ever used colloidal silver/gold to prevent/treat cold and flu? Cheers, Phil ============ ========= ========= ========= ==== .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Mara, Not at all sorry I asked! Lots of good info in your response. Keep up the good fight........ Cheers, Phil ============================================= - Maracuja oleander soup Monday, October 06, 2008 1:14 AM Re: Flu vaccination Wasn't that most fortunate? A friend in IN sent me the Walgreens Vax Admin Record, just in time for Bonnie's question! I haven't used silver as a flu preventative as it's been 13 years since DS#2 got his one & only flu. That was after his coach told him AB's would be a good idea for a sinus infection. we don't seem to get colds, although DS#2 gets a sinus infection after eating store bought ice cream - self-inflicted, AND I've given him a recipe for raw milk ice cream! There is something awful (perhaps several somethings) in the store bought stuff that leaves one open to ill-health. Non vaxing extended family don't get flu either! We use colloidal silver - the silver puppy equivalent from Australia - The Silver Well I think it's called. My major problem is severe eczema from being sprayed with Foray48B. Used homoeopathic Btk but of course, it didn't include all the garbage carrier & wetting and sticking agents of the poison that was sprayed during over 70 fixed-wing aircraft flights & untold low helicopter flights over about 4 years. We were 200m from the spray zone and managed to escape most flights, but sometimes they started at 5:30 am unannounced. Our home-grown veg was unusable - covered in a crunchy coating. So much for the silly "clean, green image" the press likes to characterise NZ as being. Colloidal silver certainly helps with infection! I spray it on & let it dry on my skin. Have spent thousands looking for alternatives to prednisone which I refuse to use. Seems like de-fatting more than anything, Tonight the immunologist rang from her home & wanted me in hospital for IV AB's. Not ever likely! Use fish & flax oil, Vit A, Vit B with extra PABA & biotin, 10gms Vit C per day, Astazan, chlorella, probiotics, enzymes etc etc. Fast fairly regularly and lost 15kgs in 6 mths of the steroid weight - which was 33kgs up in 10 mths! Gluten & dairy free diet at the moment. No good skin to do RAST test. Prick tests from years ago results - oysters, beef, grass pollen, household dust & animal dander. I think they may have all been false positives. LOL! Never used colloidal gold - yet. Gotta do some serious saving. The next outlay is for a renowned Chinese herbalist who has had much success with skin allergies, also want to do hair analysis. Bet you're sorry you asked! All the best, Maracuja --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Phillip wrote: Mara, Excellent post! BTW, have you ever used colloidal silver/gold to prevent/treat cold and flu? Cheers, Phil ============ ========= ========= ========= ==== .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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