Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Sharon, my answers 1. Yes. Personally and professionally I have done Janice's protocol for several years. I took her class and often visited her clinic and workshops (I live in Santa Cruz, CA). 2. Santa Cruz, CA. has a specific treatment clinic operated by pdrecovery.org 3. yes. note the pdrecovery protocol does not include herbs or initially even acupuncture. That was at least in the beginning. They have a new manual out which I have not completely gone through as yet. for herbal prescriptions and an excellent on-going case study of acupuncture, herbs and pdrecovery (and a patient who is not going through any western treatments) check out the files at CHA Chinese Herbal Medicine To visit your group on the web, go to: / Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:27:39 -0400 sharon weizenbaum <sweiz parkinson's treatment I am wondering if anyone has had successful experience treating parkinson's. I'll break this down into three questions: 1. Anyone have experience with the protocol at pdrecovery.org? 2. Anyone know of any in-depth or even residential treatment program? 3. Anyone have their own experience with acupuncture or Chinese herbs? Thanks so much Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Yes. Personally and professionally I have done Janice's protocol for several years. I took her class and often visited her clinic and workshops (I live in Santa Cruz, CA). >>>>>> Ed have you seen any PD cures? Oakland, CA 94609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 G, In the Philippines this is known as Adelfa. In the StuartXchange.com list of Philippine medicinal plants, they also list Chinese names (if known) and other names a plant is called. Here goes: Adelfa Nerium indicum Mill. SOUTH SEA ROSE Chia-chu-t'ao Other scientific names Common names Neroum oleander Blanco Adelfa (Span., Tag.) Nerium odorum Soland. Baladre (Tag.) a Ceylon Tree (Engl.) Dog bane (Engl.) Oleander (Engl.) Rose bay (Engl.) South sea rose (Engl.) Chia-chu-t'ao (Chin.) Not in Chinese characters though. Melly =================================================== --- On Tue, 9/30/08, oleander soup <oleander soup > wrote: oleander soup <oleander soup > Digest Number 1012 oleander soup Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:54 AM Oleander Soup Messages In This Digest (21 Messages) 1a. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? gerald.fiore 1b. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? 1c. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? gerald.fiore 1d. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? 1e. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? gerald.fiore 1f. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Gaiacita 2a. Re: (unknown) Phillip Zachary 2b. Re: (unknown) Duke Stone 2c. Re: (unknown) Gaiacita 3. (no subject) LL 4a. Re: Statins Harm Skeletal Muscles Ruth Harris 5a. [Oleandersoup_for_Pets] Re: Hot Spots - Drug Treatment and Suppressi jackdaw123 5b. Re: [Oleandersoup_for_Pets] Re: Hot Spots - Drug Treatment and Suppr bbanever 6. AIDS: Selenium + 3 Key Amino Acids Ian Watson 7. For Ian. Gaiacita 8.1. Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Tammatha 8.2. Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions May 8.3. Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Tammatha 8.4. Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions May 8.5. Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Nonie 9a. Re: Advice please. marmeyh View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Posted by: " gerald.fiore " Dukka88 gerald.fiore Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:52 pm (PDT) Thankyou guys, I was wondering if you can get the seeds somewhere and plant them yourself, that would be good too. Sorry guys, been lazy and didn't look through the group messages so will do now and look at the files section and links. G Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 1b. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Posted by: " Tony " Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:25 pm (PDT) You may have to do some looking around, but oleander plants are available in the UK and China. In the UK they are grown mostly as container plants due to the climate and moved indoors when it becomes too cold. In some parts of China oleander is used in folk remedies. Yes, it is a good idea to go back through the other messages. You ask if oleander has worked for anyone here - of course it has, and you will find plenty of success stories if you look both in the messages and the files, and new success stories appear regularly. One of our ongoing success stories is a member named Toya. She reported just yesterday that her markers are down once again (and are now around 29). I am sure there will be many more in the weeks and months to come. Though our group is five years old and has almost 1000 members, most of the members have joined within the past 6 months or so after word of oleander's success has grown. Welcome to the group. oleander soup, " gerald.fiore " <Dukka88 > wrote: > > Thankyou guys, > > I was wondering if you can get the seeds somewhere and plant them > yourself, that would be good too. > > Sorry guys, been lazy and didn't look through the group messages so > will do now and look at the files section and links. > > G > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 1c. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Posted by: " gerald.fiore " Dukka88 gerald.fiore Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:36 pm (PDT) Thankyou Tony, YOu wouldn't know what it is called in Chinese by any chance? Or maybe need the botanical name and then ask my wife who is chinese to look for it on Chinese internet and then locally in China. I was thinking about the nurseries if they use chemicals and so that's why one could buy the seeds or find the seeds and grow them in wild surroundings or environment I mean and no pesticide, so probably best to go with the online products to begin with. G Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 1d. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Posted by: " Tony " Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:42 pm (PDT) The best sources for a plant would be one grown by people you know who did not use pesticides or else one from an organic nursery. I am not sure about seed sources, but one of our members has offered to send seeds to anyone who wants them for only the price of postage once the plant has gone to seeds later in the year. The name of the plant is nerium oleander. There is another variety called thelvetica oleander, but it is not quite the same. The Chinese translation is in Chinese it is known as & #22841; & #31481; & #26691; (jia zhu tao) I agree that your best option would appear to be to begin with the commercial product. oleander soup, " gerald.fiore " <Dukka88 > wrote: > > Thankyou Tony, > > YOu wouldn't know what it is called in Chinese by any chance? Or maybe > need the botanical name and then ask my wife who is chinese to look for > it on Chinese internet and then locally in China. > > I was thinking about the nurseries if they use chemicals and so that's > why one could buy the seeds or find the seeds and grow them in wild > surroundings or environment I mean and no pesticide, so probably best > to go with the online products to begin with. > > G > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 1e. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Posted by: " gerald.fiore " Dukka88 gerald.fiore Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:24 pm (PDT) Wow that would be great to get the seeds, would it be possible to ask him/her or you could possibly give them my email? Thanks Tony, will check that name, let my wife check on mainland china websites, let you know what they say. G Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 1f. Re: Esophagus cancer - Oleander soup? Posted by: " Gaiacita " gaiacita reneevotta Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:21 pm (PDT) The seeds aren't quite ready yet, but if you send me a sase to Renee Votta 1145 S. Hwy 46 New Braunfels, TX 78130 I'll send you a bunch of seeds. It shouldn't be long now. Samala, Renee -- -- But one of our members has offered to send seeds to anyone who wants them for only the price of postage once the plant has gone to seeds later in the year. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 2a. Re: (unknown) Posted by: " Phillip Zachary " phil philzach Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:57 pm (PDT) duke, Thanks, that appears to be a very good article. I've printed it for a more thorough reading. I've read the 3rd edition of Jim Humble's book and it has some amazing information and stories. Also the cancertutor section on MMS and some other things. I don't know much about it but I'm inclined to believe there is substance to what he says. I'd be interested in your opinion. Phil ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= - Duke Stone oleander soup Monday, September 29, 2008 11:50 AM Re: (unknown) Plil It is at the bottom of this page. http://mms-article. com/ Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info (AT) DukeStone (DOT) Biz --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote: Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Re: (unknown) oleander soup Monday, September 29, 2008, 10:08 AM .. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 2b. Re: (unknown) Posted by: " Duke Stone " dukesdeals dukesdeals Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:23 pm (PDT) Phil: I have put most of what I know on this site already. All that is piecing this together is the use of the dark field microscope. and tit ability to actually give me a snap shot of the condition of my blood. This is an actual photo that I can take home from the DO's office. The MMS seem to impact the blood a lot and has caused me to be more aggressive with enzymes. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info (AT) DukeStone (DOT) Biz --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote: Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Re: (unknown) oleander soup Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:57 PM duke, Thanks, that appears to be a very good article. I've printed it for a more thorough reading. I've read the 3rd edition of Jim Humble's book and it has some amazing information and stories. Also the cancertutor section on MMS and some other things. I don't know much about it but I'm inclined to believe there is substance to what he says. I'd be interested in your opinion. Phil ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= - Duke Stone oleander soup Monday, September 29, 2008 11:50 AM Re: (unknown) Plil It is at the bottom of this page. http://mms-article. com/ Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info (AT) DukeStone (DOT) Biz --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote: Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Re: (unknown) oleander soup Monday, September 29, 2008, 10:08 AM .. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 2c. Re: (unknown) Posted by: " Gaiacita " gaiacita reneevotta Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:23 pm (PDT) Hi Phil. Is the third book much different from the second version? I have that, but was wondering if there's any new information that is very different from what is in the second version. Thanks Renee -- -- I've read the 3rd edition of Jim Humble's book and it has some amazing information and stories. Also the cancertutor section on MMS and some other things. I don't know much about it but I'm inclined to believe there is substance to what he says. I'd be interested in your opinion. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 3. (no subject) Posted by: " LL " hejdukova2 hejdukova2 Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:51 pm (PDT) http://www.perrinsk inblends. com/PerrinsProdu cts/Home. html This seems to be a good cream, even helps with skin cancer! I think for people with skin cancer or other skin problems it may be good thing to use, price is low too. Libuse Leman Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 4a. Re: Statins Harm Skeletal Muscles Posted by: " Ruth Harris " phoophh phoophh Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:45 pm (PDT) Duke, I saw a program on the History channel a few weeks back about potential terrorism targets. One of the sites they featured was the water purification plant for Washington DC which is very close to Capitol Hill. After 911 they decided that having tanks of chlorine near the center of our government was a bad idea so they switched to another method of water purification that involved two separate chemicals that were much safer and would only be mixed as they entered the water supply. I don't know if you are aware of this but the other option for water purification use in this country is chlorine dioxide - in other words, MMS. You might see if you can get some information from the DC water authority on their system http://www.dcwasa. com/default. cfm Tell them you saw something about them changing to a more terrorism proof system and you'd like to see that in your area, and can they give you some information you can present to the local authorities. There might even be some funds available through the Dept. of Homeland Security. Ruth oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote: > > Hasn't been that way for me. Every time I do it I feel better and then I usually get a form letter from a government slug with a word processor thanking me for my input. . It takes me about 3 seconds to add this list to my emails and I an finished. > > I also have a list of all of the elected Dallas city council member .. I rag them every day about the fluorine and chlorine in the water supple. That is as in everyday. No I never hear a word from them but when I start feeling better My plan is to start reading this kind of information into the city record once a month at he city council meeting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas > info > > > --- On Sun, 9/28/08, May <luellamay129@ ...> wrote: > > May <luellamay129@ ...> > Re: Statins Harm Skeletal Muscles > oleander soup > Sunday, September 28, 2008, 11:49 PM > > > > > . > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 5a. [Oleandersoup_for_Pets] Re: Hot Spots - Drug Treatment and Suppressi Posted by: " jackdaw123 " jackdaw123 jackdaw123 Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:41 pm (PDT) Steve Barrett is finally getting his due. A california court has ordered him to pay some fines for lawyers fees for somebody he helped bring a suit against. You can see the details at http://www.bolenrep ort.net/ Tim Bolen is a consultant in California whose specialty is finding good lawyers for alternative medicine people who are sued or arrested for practicing alternative medicine. One of his first clients was Dr. Hulda Clark. He also has another site at for one of his " favorite " people Dr Steven Barrett who he calls a quackpot. http://www.quackpot watch.org/ default.htm oleander soup, " May " <luellamay129@ ...> wrote: > > Steve Barrett? Yes, I'm familiar with quackwatch. His and many other > sites write misinformation with regard to natural healing. > Unfortunately, too many believe their false claims. > > Hugs, > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 5b. Re: [Oleandersoup_for_Pets] Re: Hot Spots - Drug Treatment and Suppr Posted by: " bbanever " bbanever californiabichonblue Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:38 pm (PDT) jackdaw, It's about time! Bob - " jackdaw123 " <jackdaw123 > <oleander soup> Monday, September 29, 2008 5:41 PM [Oleandersoup_ for_Pets] Re: Hot Spots - Drug Treatment and Suppression/ Lu... > Steve Barrett is finally getting his due. A california court has > ordered him to pay some fines for lawyers fees for somebody he helped > bring a suit against. You can see the details at > http://www.bolenrep ort.net/ > > Tim Bolen is a consultant in California whose specialty is finding > good lawyers for alternative medicine people who are sued or arrested > for practicing alternative medicine. One of his first clients was Dr. > Hulda Clark. He also has another site at for one of his " favorite " > people Dr Steven Barrett who he calls a quackpot. > > http://www.quackpot watch.org/ default.htm > > oleander soup, " May " <luellamay129@ ...> > wrote: >> >> Steve Barrett? Yes, I'm familiar with quackwatch. His and many other >> sites write misinformation with regard to natural healing. >> Unfortunately, too many believe their false claims. >> >> Hugs, >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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