Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Roger, I recommend that your girlfriends daughter not do the biopsy. It had caused the spread of my breast cancer. I didn't know at the time, I wish I new then, what I know now. Have her do tons of research before she sucumbs to the mainstream docs. Thank god I wised up and decided against the chemo before it was completely too late. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:03 PM Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Hi Roger,In the event there is actual cancer, no we by no means recommend abiopsy. It only serves to spread the cancer. However, I do understandhow frustrating it is to deal with people whose trust is in mainstreammedicine.I would definitely encourage her to start on the Sutherlandia OPC. Should she have cancer and opt for chemo this will help her to getthrough it with minimal side effects, or maybe none at all. And mygoodness, I truly hope that they don't talk her into a mastectomy.Even if the lump is not cancer, I would still encourage her to take theSutherlandia OPC, as it works on "irregular cells." And yes,following Tony's anti-cancer protocol is ideal and will only serve tostrengthen the immune system. Inositol/IP6 is another very powerfulsupplement that will help to reduce, if not eliminate the tumor.As for Iodine, I have very little knowledge of its effects on cancer andhow to use it in this regard.I wish you all the best and do hope that your girlfriend and herdaughter do listen to you. Please keep us posted.Warm regards,oleander soup , Roger Dilworth <rogerdilwrote:>> Hello all. My girlfriend's daughter, who is only 34, has a lump inher breast and is going for a biopsy this Monday. Not sure if such aprocedure is recommended by members of this group, but I don't think I'dbe able to talk her out of doing it since she and her mother follow thedefault brainwashing of conventional medicine. Anyway, I'd appreciateany advice about the whole deal from breast cancer survivors. (Forexample, if they do detect cancer, how soon do they ram theradiation/chemo/surgery stuff down your throat? etc.) I've given hersome iodine (Iosol) and the rest of the bottle of Sutherlandia OPC I had- I doubt she's taken any yet - plus I've forwarded her Tony'santi-cancer protocol and some info on iodine and breast cancer. Whichleads to another question: can one use iodine externally for breastcancer or just internally?>> Thanks,> Roger> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Roger My biopsy gave a path for the troat tumor to escape the capsul and grow rapidly out to the skin serface. It was 2 or 3 times larger in four months. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas http://DukeStone.Biz --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Tammatha <tammatha wrote: Tammatha <tammatha Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soup Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 11:21 PM Roger, I recommend that your girlfriends daughter not do the biopsy. It had caused the spread of my breast cancer. I didn't know at the time, I wish I new then, what I know now. Have her do tons of research before she sucumbs to the mainstream docs. Thank god I wised up and decided against the chemo before it was completely too late. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:03 PM Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Hi Roger,In the event there is actual cancer, no we by no means recommend abiopsy. It only serves to spread the cancer. However, I do understandhow frustrating it is to deal with people whose trust is in mainstreammedicine.I would definitely encourage her to start on the Sutherlandia OPC. Should she have cancer and opt for chemo this will help her to getthrough it with minimal side effects, or maybe none at all. And mygoodness, I truly hope that they don't talk her into a mastectomy.Even if the lump is not cancer, I would still encourage her to take theSutherlandia OPC, as it works on "irregular cells." And yes,following Tony's anti-cancer protocol is ideal and will only serve tostrengthen the immune system. Inositol/IP6 is another very powerfulsupplement that will help to reduce, if not eliminate the tumor.As for Iodine, I have very little knowledge of its effects on cancer andhow to use it in this regard.I wish you all the best and do hope that your girlfriend and herdaughter do listen to you. Please keep us posted.Warm regards,oleander soup, Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@.. .>wrote:>> Hello all. My girlfriend's daughter, who is only 34, has a lump inher breast and is going for a biopsy this Monday. Not sure if such aprocedure is recommended by members of this group, but I don't think I'dbe able to talk her out of doing it since she and her mother follow thedefault brainwashing of conventional medicine. Anyway, I'd appreciateany advice about the whole deal from breast cancer survivors. (Forexample, if they do detect cancer, how soon do they ram theradiation/chemo/ surgery stuff down your throat? etc.) I've given hersome iodine (Iosol) and the rest of the bottle of Sutherlandia OPC I had- I doubt she's taken any yet - plus I've forwarded her Tony'santi-cancer protocol and some info on iodine and breast cancer. Whichleads to another question: can one use iodine externally for breastcancer or just internally?>> Thanks,> Roger> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Thanks, Tammatha! Could I ask what you would do differently now if you could have done it over again? Would you have gone straight to natural methods (anti-cancer diet) or do you think you would have tried some alternative to biopsy for breast cancer detection?--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tammatha <tammatha wrote: Tammatha <tammatha Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soup Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 12:21 AM Roger, I recommend that your girlfriends daughter not do the biopsy. It had caused the spread of my breast cancer. I didn't know at the time, I wish I new then, what I know now. Have her do tons of research before she sucumbs to the mainstream docs. Thank god I wised up and decided against the chemo before it was completely too late. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:03 PM Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Hi Roger,In the event there is actual cancer, no we by no means recommend abiopsy. It only serves to spread the cancer. However, I do understandhow frustrating it is to deal with people whose trust is in mainstreammedicine.I would definitely encourage her to start on the Sutherlandia OPC. Should she have cancer and opt for chemo this will help her to getthrough it with minimal side effects, or maybe none at all. And mygoodness, I truly hope that they don't talk her into a mastectomy.Even if the lump is not cancer, I would still encourage her to take theSutherlandia OPC, as it works on "irregular cells." And yes,following Tony's anti-cancer protocol is ideal and will only serve tostrengthen the immune system. Inositol/IP6 is another very powerfulsupplement that will help to reduce, if not eliminate the tumor.As for Iodine, I have very little knowledge of its effects on cancer andhow to use it in this regard.I wish you all the best and do hope that your girlfriend and herdaughter do listen to you. Please keep us posted.Warm regards,oleander soup, Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@.. .>wrote:>> Hello all. My girlfriend's daughter, who is only 34, has a lump inher breast and is going for a biopsy this Monday. Not sure if such aprocedure is recommended by members of this group, but I don't think I'dbe able to talk her out of doing it since she and her mother follow thedefault brainwashing of conventional medicine. Anyway, I'd appreciateany advice about the whole deal from breast cancer survivors. (Forexample, if they do detect cancer, how soon do they ram theradiation/chemo/ surgery stuff down your throat? etc.) I've given hersome iodine (Iosol) and the rest of the bottle of Sutherlandia OPC I had- I doubt she's taken any yet - plus I've forwarded her Tony'santi-cancer protocol and some info on iodine and breast cancer. Whichleads to another question: can one use iodine externally for breastcancer or just internally?>> Thanks,> Roger> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Thanks, Duke. I appreciate the warning.--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote: Duke Stone <dukesdealsRe: Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soup Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 5:49 AM Roger My biopsy gave a path for the troat tumor to escape the capsul and grow rapidly out to the skin serface. It was 2 or 3 times larger in four months. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas http://DukeStone. Biz --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote: Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soupThursday, September 25, 2008, 11:21 PM Roger, I recommend that your girlfriends daughter not do the biopsy. It had caused the spread of my breast cancer. I didn't know at the time, I wish I new then, what I know now. Have her do tons of research before she sucumbs to the mainstream docs. Thank god I wised up and decided against the chemo before it was completely too late. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:03 PM Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Hi Roger,In the event there is actual cancer, no we by no means recommend abiopsy. It only serves to spread the cancer. However, I do understandhow frustrating it is to deal with people whose trust is in mainstreammedicine.I would definitely encourage her to start on the Sutherlandia OPC. Should she have cancer and opt for chemo this will help her to getthrough it with minimal side effects, or maybe none at all. And mygoodness, I truly hope that they don't talk her into a mastectomy.Even if the lump is not cancer, I would still encourage her to take theSutherlandia OPC, as it works on "irregular cells." And yes,following Tony's anti-cancer protocol is ideal and will only serve tostrengthen the immune system. Inositol/IP6 is another very powerfulsupplement that will help to reduce, if not eliminate the tumor.As for Iodine, I have very little knowledge of its effects on cancer andhow to use it in this regard.I wish you all the best and do hope that your girlfriend and herdaughter do listen to you. Please keep us posted.Warm regards,oleander soup, Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@.. .>wrote:>> Hello all. My girlfriend's daughter, who is only 34, has a lump inher breast and is going for a biopsy this Monday. Not sure if such aprocedure is recommended by members of this group, but I don't think I'dbe able to talk her out of doing it since she and her mother follow thedefault brainwashing of conventional medicine. Anyway, I'd appreciateany advice about the whole deal from breast cancer survivors. (Forexample, if they do detect cancer, how soon do they ram theradiation/chemo/ surgery stuff down your throat? etc.) I've given hersome iodine (Iosol) and the rest of the bottle of Sutherlandia OPC I had- I doubt she's taken any yet - plus I've forwarded her Tony'santi-cancer protocol and some info on iodine and breast cancer. Whichleads to another question: can one use iodine externally for breastcancer or just internally?>> Thanks,> Roger> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Hi Roger, Yes, I posted about two weeks ago my yucky journey with Kaiser and my diagnosis, is there anyway you can go back? A rather long story. We had quite a long conversation a few of us here about mammograms, breast cancer, etc. I was rushed into decisions without being able to take the time to decide on what to do for myself. I did have a mastectomy due to being shoved quickly through the system and now regret it, I didn't need to do it. This is the only thing I would have changed. I did right after the surgery begin my self education and went completely vegan, mostly raw (alot of green smoothies a Vita-Mix is a must have) detox foot baths, colon hydrotherapy for detoxing(very transforming in and out), detox, detox, detoxing is so important! Many supplements (including S/OPC(oleander), IP6, CS (colloidal silver) removing amalgam fillings, heart pumping exercises (to draw a sweat), yoga, infrared sauna, progesterone cream (my cancer was estrogen driven) very balancing. Please let me know if you can't go back to old conversations on the site. Hopefully you can help your girlfriends daughter and that she has an independent mind. Tammatha - Roger Dilworth oleander soup Friday, September 26, 2008 12:40 PM Re: Say No, No, No to Chemo.... Thanks, Tammatha! Could I ask what you would do differently now if you could have done it over again? Would you have gone straight to natural methods (anti-cancer diet) or do you think you would have tried some alternative to biopsy for breast cancer detection?--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote: Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soup Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 12:21 AM Roger, I recommend that your girlfriends daughter not do the biopsy. It had caused the spread of my breast cancer. I didn't know at the time, I wish I new then, what I know now. Have her do tons of research before she sucumbs to the mainstream docs. Thank god I wised up and decided against the chemo before it was completely too late. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:03 PM Re: Biopsy - breast cancer questions Hi Roger,In the event there is actual cancer, no we by no means recommend abiopsy. It only serves to spread the cancer. However, I do understandhow frustrating it is to deal with people whose trust is in mainstreammedicine.I would definitely encourage her to start on the Sutherlandia OPC. Should she have cancer and opt for chemo this will help her to getthrough it with minimal side effects, or maybe none at all. And mygoodness, I truly hope that they don't talk her into a mastectomy.Even if the lump is not cancer, I would still encourage her to take theSutherlandia OPC, as it works on "irregular cells." And yes,following Tony's anti-cancer protocol is ideal and will only serve tostrengthen the immune system. Inositol/IP6 is another very powerfulsupplement that will help to reduce, if not eliminate the tumor.As for Iodine, I have very little knowledge of its effects on cancer andhow to use it in this regard.I wish you all the best and do hope that your girlfriend and herdaughter do listen to you. Please keep us posted.Warm regards,oleander soup, Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@.. .>wrote:>> Hello all. My girlfriend's daughter, who is only 34, has a lump inher breast and is going for a biopsy this Monday. Not sure if such aprocedure is recommended by members of this group, but I don't think I'dbe able to talk her out of doing it since she and her mother follow thedefault brainwashing of conventional medicine. Anyway, I'd appreciateany advice about the whole deal from breast cancer survivors. (Forexample, if they do detect cancer, how soon do they ram theradiation/chemo/ surgery stuff down your throat? etc.) I've given hersome iodine (Iosol) and the rest of the bottle of Sutherlandia OPC I had- I doubt she's taken any yet - plus I've forwarded her Tony'santi-cancer protocol and some info on iodine and breast cancer. Whichleads to another question: can one use iodine externally for breastcancer or just internally?>> Thanks,> Roger> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Thanks, I finally was able to read those messages (which is easier to do through than through Mail). The thing is her aunt had a mastectomy and is a survivor so that might color their perception. But I certainly do agree, and I'm sure anyone would agree, that the procedure should be avoided if possible. I'll definitely assimilate all the diet and supplement advice - sounds really good. I have S/OPC(oleander), IP6, CS (colloidal silver) I can give her (or gave her already). I forgot about progesterone cream - Elaine Hollingsworth (doctorsaredangerous.com) recommends it highly, thanks for reminding me.--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tammatha <tammatha wrote: Tammatha <tammathaRe: Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soup Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:06 PM Hi Roger, Yes, I posted about two weeks ago my yucky journey with Kaiser and my diagnosis, is there anyway you can go back? A rather long story. We had quite a long conversation a few of us here about mammograms, breast cancer, etc. I was rushed into decisions without being able to take the time to decide on what to do for myself. I did have a mastectomy due to being shoved quickly through the system and now regret it, I didn't need to do it. This is the only thing I would have changed. I did right after the surgery begin my self education and went completely vegan, mostly raw (alot of green smoothies a Vita-Mix is a must have) detox foot baths, colon hydrotherapy for detoxing(very transforming in and out), detox, detox, detoxing is so important! Many supplements (including S/OPC(oleander) , IP6, CS (colloidal silver) removing amalgam fillings, heart pumping exercises (to draw a sweat), yoga, infrared sauna, progesterone cream (my cancer was estrogen driven) very balancing. Please let me know if you can't go back to old conversations on the site. Hopefully you can help your girlfriends daughter and that she has an independent mind. Tammatha - Roger Dilworth oleander soup Friday, September 26, 2008 12:40 PM Re: Say No, No, No to Chemo.... Thanks, Tammatha! Could I ask what you would do differently now if you could have done it over again? Would you have gone straight to natural methods (anti-cancer diet) or do you think you would have tried some alternative to biopsy for breast cancer detection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Your welcome Roger, good luck to you and yours. Tammatha - Roger Dilworth oleander soup Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:12 AM Re: Say No, No, No to Chemo.... Thanks, I finally was able to read those messages (which is easier to do through than through Mail). The thing is her aunt had a mastectomy and is a survivor so that might color their perception. But I certainly do agree, and I'm sure anyone would agree, that the procedure should be avoided if possible. I'll definitely assimilate all the diet and supplement advice - sounds really good. I have S/OPC(oleander), IP6, CS (colloidal silver) I can give her (or gave her already). I forgot about progesterone cream - Elaine Hollingsworth (doctorsaredangerous.com) recommends it highly, thanks for reminding me.--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote: Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net>Re: Say No, No, No to Chemo....oleander soup Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:06 PM Hi Roger, Yes, I posted about two weeks ago my yucky journey with Kaiser and my diagnosis, is there anyway you can go back? A rather long story. We had quite a long conversation a few of us here about mammograms, breast cancer, etc. I was rushed into decisions without being able to take the time to decide on what to do for myself. I did have a mastectomy due to being shoved quickly through the system and now regret it, I didn't need to do it. This is the only thing I would have changed. I did right after the surgery begin my self education and went completely vegan, mostly raw (alot of green smoothies a Vita-Mix is a must have) detox foot baths, colon hydrotherapy for detoxing(very transforming in and out), detox, detox, detoxing is so important! Many supplements (including S/OPC(oleander) , IP6, CS (colloidal silver) removing amalgam fillings, heart pumping exercises (to draw a sweat), yoga, infrared sauna, progesterone cream (my cancer was estrogen driven) very balancing. Please let me know if you can't go back to old conversations on the site. Hopefully you can help your girlfriends daughter and that she has an independent mind. Tammatha - Roger Dilworth oleander soup Friday, September 26, 2008 12:40 PM Re: Say No, No, No to Chemo.... Thanks, Tammatha! Could I ask what you would do differently now if you could have done it over again? Would you have gone straight to natural methods (anti-cancer diet) or do you think you would have tried some alternative to biopsy for breast cancer detection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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