stomach cancer

[Guest guest]

Is the patient's physician in favor of you treating his cancer? Most states

have a major issue and have legislation against others from performing

treatment of cancer. Now I know that we can treat the nausea/vomitting of

chemo and help the patient improve symptoms. Best of luck. Later

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

> " Benjamin Hawes " <ben_laura

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

> Stomach Cancer

>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:14:22 -0700

>

>Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

>herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

>exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

>Thanks.

>

>-Ben

>

>Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

>Director

>

>CORTEZ FAMILY ACUPUNCTURE

>1430 E. Main Street, Suite #4

>Cortez, CO 81321

>(970) 565-0230

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you treating his cancer?

>>>

" treating cancer " is the fastest way to loose you license. Never say you treat

the cancer it self

alon

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Ben, & All,

 

Benjamin Hawes wrote:

> Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese

> anti-toxin herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic.

> Patient doesn't know exact type or stage, but will provide that

> next week for his evaluation. Thanks. Ben

 

As Mike Bowser said, it is illegal in many countries to claim that

one cen treat cancer. I see that as no problem, because cancer is

only a symptom (branch) and TCM aims to treat the PATIENT /

ROOT as its main benefit.

 

Therefore, I would not hesitate to try to help people who happen to

have cancer, but I would avoid saying that I was treating cancer.

 

Circa 18 months after prostate surgery, followed by hormonal

castration, a friend of mine had radical gastrectomy (circa 90% ST

removal) for an independent and malignant ST cancer.

 

After discharge from hospital, I visited him 1-2 times/month until his

death (some 8 years later, aged >80). I recommended the following

programme:

 

(a) High-dose Vit E + Bioplexed selenium;

(b) 4g pure Korean Red Ginseng root/d; 1 week on, 1 week off;

© Prayer + visualisation therapy, daily;

(d) daily recitation/meditation on " St Patrick's Breastplate " (a most

powerful prayer of protection; see WWW);

(e) Acupuncture whenever I visited him.

 

I used mainly the immune-stimulating points (LI04, ST36, LI11) + 1-

2 needles for symptomatic priorities on the day. For example:

 

GB34 for a discharging thoracic fistula near SP21 after removal of a

thoracic drain on discharge from hospital. GB34 worked like a

dream; the fistula closed within days and never reopened.

 

CV03 + SP06 or KI07 for prostate-urinary incontinence (AP did not

help that much; he remained dribbly and had to get up a few times

at night);

 

BL60 -> KI03 for ankle oedema [that helped a lot].

 

My friend did very well for circa 8 years. He had been a big, strong

man in his prime, circa 105kg; on discharge from hospital after the

gastrectomy, he was circa 73kg, a loss of circa 32kg. Until his

accident, c 8 years later, his weight held steady, somewhere

between 70-76kg.

 

Then, driving to the funeral, my friend hit an oncoming car. He was

bruised badly, lacerated and shocked. He was hospitalised for

about a week, and required many sutures and blood transfusion.

 

Within days, he gave up, mentally, spiritually and physically,and

fell into black depression. I could not cheer him up anymore.

Within weeks, he was admitted into a secure ward of a psychiatric

hospital. There, he contracted acute pneumonia, from which he

died after a few days.

 

I believe that the shock of the car-crash (he had driven for almost

60 years without crashing before) overwhelmed his bodily & mental

defences, and led directly to his death within weeks.

 

At that time, I was not familiar with Are Thoresen's Ko Cycle

method. Using the KO Cycle, Are claims remarkable clinical

results in hundreds of cancer patients, human and animal. He may

like to add to the following:

 

Are's theory is that CANCER = LOSS of CONTROL of cell division

and apotosis (programmed cell death). He aims to restore control

by stimulating ONE Command Point on the Grandmother

(CONTROLLING) Channel.

 

For example, for cancer that originates in ST, or along ST Channel

(mammary cancer, sarcoid under the eye at ST01 or ST02), Are

would stimulate LV Channel with ONE needle, because LV (Wood)

Controls ST (Earth) via the KO Cycle. He told us that LV03 has

been very successful in these cases; he treats 1-2 times/month for

1 year.

 

For cancer of BL, or along BL Channel (for example sarcoid at

BL01 or BL02 at the medial canthus of the eye), he would

stimulate SP Channel with ONE needle, because SP (Earth)

Controls BL/KI (Water) via the KO Cycle. SP01, SP03 or SP09

(Water Pt) would help.

 

Are advises his students NOT to needle the affected Channel (for

example ST Channel in ST cancer)

 

Anything to add, Are? Am I beginning to understand your method

at last?

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Email: <

 

WORK : Teagasc, c/o 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

 

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Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing

it "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your story Phil and informative point prescriptions. In

cases of shock from physical trauma I have used what JR Worsley calls

the External Dragons treatment - GV20, BL 11, BL23, and BL 61. Insert

all needles even, right to left, top to bottom, then turn

counterclockwise to release energy.

 

Phil, it sound like you did a lot of good for your friend not to mention

giving him a lot of time and care. I believe people are ready to go at

some point and no matter what we do, it's their time. It appears that

you made his life a lot more peaceful while he was here.

 

Anne

 

wrote:

 

> Hi Ben, & All,

>

> Benjamin Hawes wrote:

> > Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese

> > anti-toxin herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic.

> > Patient doesn't know exact type or stage, but will provide that

> > next week for his evaluation. Thanks. Ben

>

> As Mike Bowser said, it is illegal in many countries to claim that

> one cen treat cancer. I see that as no problem, because cancer is

> only a symptom (branch) and TCM aims to treat the PATIENT /

> ROOT as its main benefit.

>

> Therefore, I would not hesitate to try to help people who happen to

> have cancer, but I would avoid saying that I was treating cancer.

>

> Circa 18 months after prostate surgery, followed by hormonal

> castration, a friend of mine had radical gastrectomy (circa 90% ST

> removal) for an independent and malignant ST cancer.

>

> After discharge from hospital, I visited him 1-2 times/month until his

> death (some 8 years later, aged >80). I recommended the following

> programme:

>

> (a) High-dose Vit E + Bioplexed selenium;

> (b) 4g pure Korean Red Ginseng root/d; 1 week on, 1 week off;

> © Prayer + visualisation therapy, daily;

> (d) daily recitation/meditation on " St Patrick's Breastplate " (a most

> powerful prayer of protection; see WWW);

> (e) Acupuncture whenever I visited him.

>

> I used mainly the immune-stimulating points (LI04, ST36, LI11) + 1-

> 2 needles for symptomatic priorities on the day. For example:

>

> GB34 for a discharging thoracic fistula near SP21 after removal of a

> thoracic drain on discharge from hospital. GB34 worked like a

> dream; the fistula closed within days and never reopened.

>

> CV03 + SP06 or KI07 for prostate-urinary incontinence (AP did not

> help that much; he remained dribbly and had to get up a few times

> at night);

>

> BL60 -> KI03 for ankle oedema [that helped a lot].

>

> My friend did very well for circa 8 years. He had been a big, strong

> man in his prime, circa 105kg; on discharge from hospital after the

> gastrectomy, he was circa 73kg, a loss of circa 32kg. Until his

> accident, c 8 years later, his weight held steady, somewhere

> between 70-76kg.

>

> Then, driving to the funeral, my friend hit an oncoming car. He was

> bruised badly, lacerated and shocked. He was hospitalised for

> about a week, and required many sutures and blood transfusion.

>

> Within days, he gave up, mentally, spiritually and physically,and

> fell into black depression. I could not cheer him up anymore.

> Within weeks, he was admitted into a secure ward of a psychiatric

> hospital. There, he contracted acute pneumonia, from which he

> died after a few days.

>

> I believe that the shock of the car-crash (he had driven for almost

> 60 years without crashing before) overwhelmed his bodily & mental

> defences, and led directly to his death within weeks.

>

> At that time, I was not familiar with Are Thoresen's Ko Cycle

> method. Using the KO Cycle, Are claims remarkable clinical

> results in hundreds of cancer patients, human and animal. He may

> like to add to the following:

>

> Are's theory is that CANCER = LOSS of CONTROL of cell division

> and apotosis (programmed cell death). He aims to restore control

> by stimulating ONE Command Point on the Grandmother

> (CONTROLLING) Channel.

>

> For example, for cancer that originates in ST, or along ST Channel

> (mammary cancer, sarcoid under the eye at ST01 or ST02), Are

> would stimulate LV Channel with ONE needle, because LV (Wood)

> Controls ST (Earth) via the KO Cycle. He told us that LV03 has

> been very successful in these cases; he treats 1-2 times/month for

> 1 year.

>

> For cancer of BL, or along BL Channel (for example sarcoid at

> BL01 or BL02 at the medial canthus of the eye), he would

> stimulate SP Channel with ONE needle, because SP (Earth)

> Controls BL/KI (Water) via the KO Cycle. SP01, SP03 or SP09

> (Water Pt) would help.

>

> Are advises his students NOT to needle the affected Channel (for

> example ST Channel in ST cancer)

>

> Anything to add, Are? Am I beginning to understand your method

> at last?

 

> Best regards,

>

> Email: <

[Guest guest]

Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want to know

this answer. I will give you the info if you email me directly. William A. Brown

Dr.Ac.,DCM

aqupoint

 

 

Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

Thanks.

 

-Ben

 

Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

[Guest guest]

I do...

 

Marco

 

>

>

> Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want to

know this answer. I will give you the info if you email me directly. William

A. Brown Dr.Ac.,DCM

> aqupoint

>

>

> Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

> Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

> herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

> exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

> Thanks.

>

> -Ben

>

> Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

> Director

[Guest guest]

Ehhhrr.... can you please share it on the list?

I for one want to know.

 

Thanks!

 

Mike L.

 

WILLIAM ACUPUNCT <aqupoint wrote:

 

Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want to know

this answer. I will give you the info if you email me directly. William A. Brown

Dr.Ac.,DCM

aqupoint

 

 

Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

Thanks.

 

-Ben

 

Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

[Guest guest]

So would I.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

07786198900

attiliodalberto

<http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

 

 

Mike Liaw [mikeliaw]

12 December 2004 04:37

Chinese Medicine

Re: Stomach Cancer

 

 

 

Ehhhrr.... can you please share it on the list?

I for one want to know.

 

Thanks!

 

Mike L.

 

WILLIAM ACUPUNCT <aqupoint wrote:

 

Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want to

know this answer. I will give you the info if you email me directly. William

A. Brown Dr.Ac.,DCM

aqupoint

 

 

Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

Thanks.

 

-Ben

 

Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Me too!

 

Regards

 

May

 

 

On 12/12/04 11:20 am, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto

wrote:

 

>

> So would I.

>

> Kind regards

>

> Attilio D'Alberto

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

> BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

> 07786198900

> attiliodalberto

> <http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

>

>

> Mike Liaw [mikeliaw]

> 12 December 2004 04:37

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Stomach Cancer

>

>

>

> Ehhhrr.... can you please share it on the list?

> I for one want to know.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Mike L.

>

> WILLIAM ACUPUNCT <aqupoint wrote:

>

> Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want to

> know this answer. I will give you the info if you email me directly. William

> A. Brown Dr.Ac.,DCM

> aqupoint

>

>

> Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

> Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

> herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

> exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

> Thanks.

>

> -Ben

>

> Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

> Director

[Guest guest]

I would be very interested to learn more on this subject.

 

Thanks.

 

Kim Blankenship, L.Ac.

 

 

 

 

Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote:

So would I.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

07786198900

attiliodalberto

<http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

 

 

Mike Liaw [mikeliaw]

12 December 2004 04:37

Chinese Medicine

Re: Stomach Cancer

 

 

 

Ehhhrr.... can you please share it on the list?

I for one want to know.

 

Thanks!

 

Mike L.

 

WILLIAM ACUPUNCT <aqupoint wrote:

 

Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want to

know this answer. I will give you the info if you email me directly. William

A. Brown Dr.Ac.,DCM

aqupoint

 

 

Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

Thanks.

 

-Ben

 

Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Me, too. JG

--- kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote:

 

>

> I would be very interested to learn more on this

> subject.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Kim Blankenship, L.Ac.

>

>

>

>

> Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto

> wrote:

> So would I.

>

> Kind regards

>

> Attilio D'Alberto

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

> BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

> 07786198900

> attiliodalberto

> <http://www.attiliodalberto.com/>

> www.attiliodalberto.com

>

>

> Mike Liaw [mikeliaw]

> 12 December 2004 04:37

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Stomach Cancer

>

>

>

> Ehhhrr.... can you please share it on the list?

> I for one want to know.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Mike L.

>

> WILLIAM ACUPUNCT <aqupoint wrote:

>

> Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The

> group here dosent want to

> know this answer. I will give you the info if you

> email me directly. William

> A. Brown Dr.Ac.,DCM

> aqupoint

>

>

> Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

> Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know

> what Chinese anti-toxin

> herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic.

> Patient doesn't know

> exact type or stage, but will provide that next week

> for his evaluation.

> Thanks.

>

> -Ben

>

> Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

> Director

>

>

>

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>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I do too. I went to a lecture series with Jeffrey Yuen on this. It was

really fascinating. I purchased his CD's from the Maryland Acupuncture

Society so I could synthesize the information - even while driving in

the car. I haven't treated people with cancer - only after recovery or

remission. Would like to get more of a comfort level with this. So,

yes I would be very interested in your response.

 

WILLIAM ACUPUNCT wrote:

 

>

> Hello Benjamin: Please contact me off list. The group here dosent want

> to know this answer. I will give you the info if you email me

> directly. William A. Brown Dr.Ac.,DCM

> aqupoint

>

>

> Benjamin Hawes <ben_laura wrote:

> Has anyone treated ST CA with herbs? Anyone know what Chinese anti-toxin

> herbs best target ST cancer? It is non-metatastic. Patient doesn't know

> exact type or stage, but will provide that next week for his evaluation.

> Thanks.

>

> -Ben

>

> Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

> Director

[Guest guest]

I would also like to see a TCM Differential Diagnosis go along with the term

<<stomach cancer>> as I am interested in this discussion as well.

 

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

Acupuncture is a jab well done

www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA.

[Guest guest]

What is your source for this?

 

 

On Dec 16, 2004, at 10:30 AM, yandy wrote:

 

>

> Hi Ed and all,

>

> Here is the differentiation syndrome for Stomach cancer :

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed and all,

 

Here is the differentiation syndrome for Stomach cancer :

1. Gan wei bu he (Liver stomach disharmony)

2. Yu du nei zu (internal static poison obstruction)

3. Pi xu tan shi (spleen vacuity and phlegm dampness)

4. Pi wei xu han (Spleen stomach vacuity cold)

5. Wei re shang yin (Stomach heat injuring Yin)

6. Qi xue liang xu (Dual vacuity of qi and blood)

 

Frequently used formula for post surgery of stomach cancer :

1. Wei ai shu hou tiao li pi wei fang (Post surgery of stomach cancer,

regulate spleen and stomach formula) :

huang qi 30 gr

dang shen 15 gr

chen pi 10 gr

zhi ke 12 gr

ban xia 10 gr

hou po 10 gr

shi hu 12 gr

sha ren 6 gr

ji nei jin 9 gr

jiao san xian 30 gr

gan cao 6 gr

 

Spontaneous sweating and deficiency sweat add fu xiao mai, wu wei zi, fang

feng

Yin deficiency add sha shen, mai dong, sheng di

Stomach distention add Lai fu zi, da fu pi, guang mu tong

Dry stools add huo ma ren

loose stool add bai shu, fu ling, huai shan yao

 

2. Wan ji wei ai shu huo fang (Post surgery formula for last stage of

stomach cancer)

Ren shen 6-10 gr

huang qi 15 gr

shan dou gen 12 gr

gan chan pi 10 gr

tian long 10 gr

bai hua she she cao 30 gr

bai ying 30 gr

ban zhi lian 30 gr

hai zao 20 gr

sheng mu li 30 gr

duan wa leng 30 gr

guang mu tong 12 gr

chen xiang 10gr

 

Best regards,

Yandy

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Yandy, much appreciated for the formulas and differential diagnosis

 

Ed kasper LAc Santa Cruz, CA

[Guest guest]

I quoted it from Ai zheng zhong yi bao jian (Cancer, Health

Preservation) by Wang Kun Gen. Publisher Ren min wei sheng chu ban she.

 

Best regards,

Yandy

[Guest guest]

Hi, two month ago my 55 year old mom was diagnosed w/ inoperable stomach cancer

that has spread to her liver.

We started to use oleander extract (arvinzel). Is there anyone out there who has

beat this disease w/ oleander?

 

Thanks

 

Afk

[Guest guest]

Afk,

 

How long has your mother been taking the oleander extract?

 

Bob

-

" af koc " <afkoc

<oleander soup >

Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:10 AM

stomach cancer

 

 

> Hi, two month ago my 55 year old mom was diagnosed w/ inoperable stomach

> cancer that has spread to her liver.

> We started to use oleander extract (arvinzel). Is there anyone out there

> who has beat this disease w/ oleander?

>

> Thanks

>

> Afk

>

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

for one months

 

oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote:

>

> Afk,

>

> How long has your mother been taking the oleander extract?

>

> Bob

> -

> " af koc " <afkoc

> <oleander soup >

> Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:10 AM

> stomach cancer

>

>

> > Hi, two month ago my 55 year old mom was diagnosed w/ inoperable

stomach

> > cancer that has spread to her liver.

> > We started to use oleander extract (arvinzel). Is there anyone

out there

> > who has beat this disease w/ oleander?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Afk

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

A great many people have beaten the same kind of cancer your mother

has and I would expect you to see good results within the next one to

two months.

 

Here is a case result you may wish to look at

 

Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO

http://www.drozel.org/eng/diagnosis_stomach_VO.htm

 

Of course there are many other good things your mother should do

besides just use oleander/OPC to have the very best odds of success.

 

/anticancer.htm

 

 

 

oleander soup , af koc <afkoc wrote:

>

> Hi, two month ago my 55 year old mom was diagnosed w/ inoperable

stomach cancer that has spread to her liver.

> We started to use oleander extract (arvinzel). Is there anyone out

there who has beat this disease w/ oleander?

>

> Thanks

>

> Afk

>

[Guest guest]

Afk,

 

Great... please tell her to keep it up and also report back to us with

your progress... good or bad.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob

-

" afkoc " <afkoc

<oleander soup >

Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:23 AM

Re: stomach cancer

 

 

> for one months

>

> oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote:

>>

>> Afk,

>>

>> How long has your mother been taking the oleander extract?

>>

>> Bob

>> -

>> " af koc " <afkoc

>> <oleander soup >

>> Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:10 AM

>> stomach cancer

>>

>>

>> > Hi, two month ago my 55 year old mom was diagnosed w/ inoperable

> stomach

>> > cancer that has spread to her liver.

>> > We started to use oleander extract (arvinzel). Is there anyone

> out there

>> > who has beat this disease w/ oleander?

>> >

>> > Thanks

>> >

>> > Afk

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ---

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your concern and assistance

 

Afk

 

oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote:

>

> Afk,

>

> Great... please tell her to keep it up and also report back to

us with

> your progress... good or bad.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Bob

> -

> " afkoc " <afkoc

> <oleander soup >

> Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:23 AM

> Re: stomach cancer

>

>

> > for one months

> >

> > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Afk,

> >>

> >> How long has your mother been taking the oleander extract?

> >>

> >> Bob

> >> -

> >> " af koc " <afkoc@>

> >> <oleander soup >

> >> Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:10 AM

> >> stomach cancer

> >>

> >>

> >> > Hi, two month ago my 55 year old mom was diagnosed w/

inoperable

> > stomach

> >> > cancer that has spread to her liver.

> >> > We started to use oleander extract (arvinzel). Is there anyone

> > out there

> >> > who has beat this disease w/ oleander?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks

> >> >

> >> > Afk

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ---

> >> >

> >> >