Fear of poisoning myself - Rhoda and Marcia

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Rhoda -

 

Yes, I remember well what a fraidy cat you were! LOL. But I well

realize how crazy and scary it may sound to tell someone to take a

highly poisonous plant and make an extract to take orally.

 

I think that technically you may be at least partially right - the

boiling process does not eliminate all of the toxins so much as it

extracts a tiny bit of the cardiac glycosides and a great many other

cancer fighting compounds while leaving those toxins it does not

render non-toxic behind in the remaining plant material that you

filter out. On the other hand, boiling may have some effect because

Dr. Ozel noted that his early preparations of what later came to be

known as Anvirzel were not at the safe stage until the water turned

brownish.

 

When it comes to extra filtration, I don't think that you are actually

filtering any toxins out once you have all of the plant material

removed. What you are filtering out are some large chain organic

compounds that can cause stomach distress and some of the other side

effects. That is why those people who make their own oleander extract

and use an extra filtration step of several unbleached coffee filters

(or else use filters they obtain from a medical supply company and/or

off the internet) report little or no side effects, the same as

happens with the patented medicine version Anvirzel, which the home

remedy was patterned after.

 

 

oleander soup , " Rhoda Mead " <hummingbird541

wrote:

>

> *Dear Marcia, No one could be more afraid making a oleander

poisonous brew

> than I was! I don't think it's the cooking that eliminates the

toxins; it's

> my understanding that it's the filtration process.* So *I filtered

the soup

> several more times than the directions call for; until the liquid

ran freely

> through the paper towels and then unbleached coffee filters.

> Then I started with just a drop, then two, etc. I kidded about

doing this

> in the hospital parking lot!

> Cautious! Let us know how you do!

> Even with all the filtering, the oleander soup can still make me

> nauseous, sometimes vomiting. I have no trouble with the pills, so

do four

> pills a day plus one spoonful of concentrated homemade OS. Rhoda

> *

>