Tingling is not a good sign! The likely cause is insecticide

September 4, 2008

Tingling, especially on the lips if you touch them to the extract is a

very likely sign of chemical contamination, most likely an insecticide

and most likely malathion - which is commonly used in nurseries as

well as by homeowners.

I would advise you to discard your soup and find a new plant source or

else order the OPC.

If it is malathion, the good news is that you have so far consumed

only a small amount and it does break down and get eliminated from the

body fairly quickly - however, it is not at all safe to continue to

consume. And it may be something more dangerous than malathion.

oleander soup , Oscar Herrera <oscar142142

wrote:

>

> I have made two oleander soup batches with organic oleander and when

I put it

> under my tongue it makes y mouth a little numb and tingling

including m finger tips and my

> hearth work a little faster it last a couple hours, after I feel

great. I have feel a lot of benefits

> since I started taking it two weeks ago I was diagnosed with

meniere's syndrome four years ago.

>

> Does any body had an experience similar to mine. any input greatly

appreciated.

> I live in the bay area in California. and thank you Tony and .

>

> Oscar Herrera

>

> Nomita Kohli <on1276

> oleander soup

> Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:41:57 AM

> Re: Loose stool after Oleander

>

> Reduced the dose to 2 capsules a day (from 4) since yesterday. There

was some blood in the stool yesterday although it wasn't loose

anymore. Today, there was no blood and it wasn't loose either.

>

> Will try 3 capsules from day after tomorrow, if you think that's

slow enough.

>

> Should I try the liver cleanse over the weekend?

>

> Thanks,

> Nomita

>

September 4, 2008

Though I'm sure that this might be caused by malathion, I've noticed that I experience numbness for a few minutes on the tip of my tongue when I hold the oleander soup in my mouth for a few minutes. It feels similar to one of those numbing mouthwashes/gargles my mother used to give me as a kid when I had a sore throat. (It was called Cepacol). I know the oleander is not contaminated, because it comes from my brother's wooded lot where he has lived for years. I thought at first that it was due to the vodka. When I tried it before adding the vodka it did the same thing. Herbal bitters alcohol free) held in the mouth do something similar to me, but nowhere near as intense. I get no other "side

effect" even with a tablespoonful.Mike GoldenTony oleander soup Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 2:38:06 PM Tingling is not a good sign! The likely cause is insecticide

Tingling, especially on the lips if you touch them to the extract is a

very likely sign of chemical contamination, most likely an insecticide

and most likely malathion - which is commonly used in nurseries as

well as by homeowners.

I .

September 4, 2008

Thank you for your quick response Tony, I will discard it and order one from South Africa and will keep you posted.

Oscar

Tony oleander soup Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 12:38:06 PM Tingling is not a good sign! The likely cause is insecticide

Tingling, especially on the lips if you touch them to the extract is avery likely sign of chemical contamination, most likely an insecticideand most likely malathion - which is commonly used in nurseries aswell as by homeowners.I would advise you to discard your soup and find a new plant source orelse order the OPC.If it is malathion, the good news is that you have so far consumedonly a small amount and it does break down and get eliminated from thebody fairly quickly - however, it is not at all safe to continue toconsume. And it may be something more dangerous than malathion.Tonyoleander soup, Oscar Herrera <oscar142142@ ...>wrote:>> I have made two oleander soup batches with organic oleander and whenI put it

> under my tongue it makes y mouth a little numb and tinglingincluding m finger tips and my> hearth work a little faster it last a couple hours, after I feelgreat. I have feel a lot of benefits> since I started taking it two weeks ago I was diagnosed withmeniere's syndrome four years ago.> > Does any body had an experience similar to mine. any input greatlyappreciated.> I live in the bay area in California. and thank you Tony and .> > Oscar Herrera> > > > > Nomita Kohli <on1276> oleander soup> Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:41:57 AM> Re: Loose stool after Oleander> > >

> > Reduced the dose to 2 capsules a day (from 4) since yesterday. Therewas some blood in the stool yesterday although it wasn't looseanymore. Today, there was no blood and it wasn't loose either.> > Will try 3 capsules from day after tomorrow, if you think that'sslow enough.> > Should I try the liver cleanse over the weekend?> > Thanks,> Nomita>

September 4, 2008

Just for the record, I get no numbing or tingling whatsoever. In your

case Mike, you are sure that it has not been sprayed by commercial

insecticides. But a good rule of thumb is that if you feel any numbing

or tingling, to discard the recipe. Our health is to precious to take a

chance with.

Warm regards,

oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86

wrote:

>

> Though I'm sure that this might be caused by malathion, I've noticed

that I experience numbness for a few minutes on the tip of my tongue

when I hold the oleander soup in my mouth for a few minutes. It feels

similar to one of those numbing mouthwashes/gargles my mother used to

give me as a kid when I had a sore throat. (It was called Cepacol). I

know the oleander is not contaminated, because it comes from my

brother's wooded lot where he has lived for years. I thought at first

that it was due to the vodka. When I tried it before adding the vodka

it did the same thing. Herbal bitters alcohol free) held in the mouth

do something similar to me, but nowhere near as intense. I get no other

" side effect " even with a tablespoonful.

>

> Mike Golden

>

> Tony

> oleander soup

> Thursday, September 4, 2008 2:38:06 PM

> Tingling is not a good sign! The likely cause

is insecticide

>

> Tingling, especially on the lips if you touch them to the extract is a

> very likely sign of chemical contamination, most likely an insecticide

> and most likely malathion - which is commonly used in nurseries as

> well as by homeowners.

>

> I

> ..

>

September 5, 2008

is anyone in this group from or near South Carolina? > > > Nomita Kohli <on1276> oleander soup > Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:41:57 AM> Re: Loose stool after Oleander> > > > > Reduced the dose to 2 capsules a day (from 4) since yesterday. Therewas some blood in the stool yesterday although it wasn't looseanymore. Today, there was no blood and it wasn't loose either.> > Will try 3 capsules from day after tomorrow, if you think that'sslow enough.> > Should I try the liver cleanse over the weekend?> > Thanks,>

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