Oleander and MMS

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Here's some sarcasm. Hey, everyone, thanks all the confusing and inconsistent feedback about whether to take oleander and the DMSO/MMS protocol together. Truthfully, I appreciate and enjoy honest controversy, and even confusion, more than a 'party line' or authoritarian approach.

 

The new transdermal OCC protocol warns us to NOT take antioxidants or IMMUNE BUILDERS during the one week protocol. Vladimir pointed out that in the melanoma protocol, it specifically states to take both oleander and OCC continuously.

I immediately emailed Webster Keir, but have had no reply as yet. The transdermal OCC protocol is very experimental. Webster only knows of 15 people who have done it, and does not know their outcome. Unless we are part of strict double-blind studies, it is impossible to know precisely the cause of cancer reversal. For instance, I am or have been doing several strong programs that I believe are compatible, such as Budwig, oleander, LDN, zeolite, Cell Forte, minerals and mushrooms, in addition to diet and detox. Also I just finished having dental crowns replaced last week..

If I stop most, but not all, for ten days during this OCC protocol, and my cancer shows reversal after a month, who can say for sure that the reversal didn't begun just before I started the OCC? In my opinion, if my blood tumor markers show a very dramatic drop, it is most likely to be due to the new transdermal OCC protocol, but not definitively. And I'm not willing to do only one protocol for months to find out for sure. I'd rather be free to choose what seems best for me than be part of scientific experiment! Rhoda

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Hello Rhoda; my experience may give you some more insight into the oxidant/antioxidant "thing" I have hcv, and it is acute/chronic. I have lots of symptoms like irritated eyes, digestive issues, fatigue, insomnia, brain fog, depression, nearly zero appetiite; liver pain-Ipallid complexion- I could go on but you probably get the picture. All this goes away- depending on my efforts, using several protocols. I've done ozone in every way you can imagine, including IV; it has helped, but is most inconveient. I've done millions of mgs IV vitamin c; helped, but the synthetic is eventually toxic tom the liver. I've done accupuncture, veg juice, tai chi, castor oil packs- you probably can't name something I haven't done. MMS is the one thing that has solved my problem consistently

and extremely inexpensive. It oxidizes viruses, and heavy metals, etc The main challenge has been- what amount get the best results, with less problem? The correct amount oxidizes the bugs, etc,and too much begins to cause oxidative stress (you could think of it as an internal sunburn) So imho, the mms should be taken - lets say in the morning, wait an hour or 2- let the mms do its thing of killing and oxidizing heavy metals, and then beginning to eat fruits, and vegs, then oleander, and other antioxidants to counter any "over" oxidation. After dinner, another dose of mms. This is another bit of evidence that the mms/dmso is penetrating and working. If I stop mms for a couple days- (I have not completely solved my problem yet) I will begin to get symptoms. As soon as I take my dose, they go

away. This past weekend, I began to use the OCC. I have stopped the oral dose. The mms/dmso has so far, stopped symptoms from returning. I used the 80 drop -one dose method yesterday. I find that to be a little irritating on the skin. Today, I used 40 drops mms, -1/2 teaspoon. 160 drops lemon juice - 2 teaspoons 160 drops dmso - 2 teaspoons Coated my legs, and arms, waited 30 minutes (the solution is said to soak in in 10 minutes., take a shower. One hour later, I ate my fruit and oleander. Seems to be working. If I feel that this isn't quite enough, I will do the oral in addition. I'm going to do this

morning and night. I find that oxidative stress can gives me negative symptoms as well as hcv. I'm not seeing either with this method. --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote:

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 Oleander and MMSoleander soup Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 10:53 AM

 

 

 

Here's some sarcasm. Hey, everyone, thanks all the confusing and inconsistent feedback about whether to take oleander and the DMSO/MMS protocol together. Truthfully, I appreciate and enjoy honest controversy, and even confusion, more than a 'party line' or authoritarian approach. The new transdermal OCC protocol warns us to NOT take antioxidants or IMMUNE BUILDERS during the one week protocol. Vladimir pointed out that in the melanoma protocol, it specifically states to take both oleander and OCC continuously. I immediately emailed Webster Keir, but have had no reply as yet. The transdermal OCC protocol is very experimental. Webster only knows of 15 people who have done it, and does not know their outcome. Unless we are part of strict double-blind studies, it is impossible to know precisely the cause of cancer reversal. For instance, I am or have

been doing several strong programs that I believe are compatible, such as Budwig, oleander, LDN, zeolite, Cell Forte, minerals and mushrooms, in addition to diet and detox. Also I just finished having dental crowns replaced last week.. If I stop most, but not all, for ten days during this OCC protocol, and my cancer shows reversal after a month, who can say for sure that the reversal didn't begun just before I started the OCC? In my opinion, if my blood tumor markers show a very dramatic drop, it is most likely to be due to the new transdermal OCC protocol, but not definitively. And I'm not willing to do only one protocol for months to find out for sure. I'd rather be free to choose what seems best for me than be part of scientific experiment! Rhoda