Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

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I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I take

the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused it. Then

I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried taking it

every other day and went days w/o taking it, experimented with it, and

then the day I took it, the diarrhea returned. (BAD!!) I endured it

for weeks and lost weight bc everything went straight through me

(didn't need or want to lose weight). As soon as I stopped taking it,

the diarrhea stopped and now things are back to normal.

 

I guess this is just a comment rather than a question bc I honestly

don't know what else to do. Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer bush, bc

I know I'm not allergic to oleander.

 

I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for me as far as the

oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this problem. Maybe some of us

just can't take it.

 

Thanks for all the previous suggestions. Marcia

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Marcia -

 

I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you can make your own oleander

extract and use it instead. Personally, I feel that just about all of

the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comes to cancer is from the

oleander - just as I believe was true when the OPC was formulated with

3 rain forest botanicals before the switch to S. Frutescens. Under

either formulation, the 80% oleander extract has been the big gun and

the rest bonuses.

 

I suppose it is possible that you could be allergic to S. Frutescens,

though I can find no literature readily available about allergies to

it. I do note that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.

Ironically, another is constipation.

 

 

 

oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan

wrote:

>

> I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I take

> the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused it. Then

> I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried taking it

> every other day and went days w/o taking it, experimented with it, and

> then the day I took it, the diarrhea returned. (BAD!!) I endured it

> for weeks and lost weight bc everything went straight through me

> (didn't need or want to lose weight). As soon as I stopped taking it,

> the diarrhea stopped and now things are back to normal.

>

> I guess this is just a comment rather than a question bc I honestly

> don't know what else to do. Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer bush, bc

> I know I'm not allergic to oleander.

>

> I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for me as far as the

> oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this problem. Maybe some of us

> just can't take it.

>

> Thanks for all the previous suggestions. Marcia

>

[Guest guest]

Tony: Thanks for the response regarding my intestinal problem w/

taking the oleander. I have been reading other posts on this forum

as well as curezone and I just had a thought: (I really hate to even

ask you this)but....

 

I know there's nothing as effectove as the oleander but since I

cannot tolerate even a tiny bit of it, what would be the next best

thing as far as immune building/cancer killing/etc? Is there

anything at all that comes to your mind that I could substitute for

the oleander? I'm doing all the rest of your protocol but now I'm

w/o the most impt part! It won't be the same, but if there is

something else that even remotely comes close to the effectiveness

of the oleander, I could add that to the rest of the protocol.

 

A wild shot I'm sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks, Marcia

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> Marcia -

>

> I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you can make your own oleander

> extract and use it instead. Personally, I feel that just about

all of

> the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comes to cancer is from the

> oleander - just as I believe was true when the OPC was formulated

with

> 3 rain forest botanicals before the switch to S. Frutescens. Under

> either formulation, the 80% oleander extract has been the big gun

and

> the rest bonuses.

>

> I suppose it is possible that you could be allergic to S.

Frutescens,

> though I can find no literature readily available about allergies

to

> it. I do note that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.

> Ironically, another is constipation.

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I

take

> > the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused

it. Then

> > I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried taking

it

> > every other day and went days w/o taking it, experimented with

it, and

> > then the day I took it, the diarrhea returned. (BAD!!) I

endured it

> > for weeks and lost weight bc everything went straight through me

> > (didn't need or want to lose weight). As soon as I stopped

taking it,

> > the diarrhea stopped and now things are back to normal.

> >

> > I guess this is just a comment rather than a question bc I

honestly

> > don't know what else to do. Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer

bush, bc

> > I know I'm not allergic to oleander.

> >

> > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for me as far as

the

> > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this problem. Maybe some

of us

> > just can't take it.

> >

> > Thanks for all the previous suggestions. Marcia

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Marcia,

 

Until Tony gets back, let me reply. First of all, it is wonderful that

you are also following his protocol. You have a wonderful arsenal

behind you. As per his message, is it possible for you to make the soup

and just try the oleander alone without the Sutherlandia Frutescens? At

least to try this before you totally discount it. Who knows? That

might be the answer And then, if that doesn't work, we can cross that

bridge.

 

Hugs,

 

 

oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan

wrote:

>

> Tony: Thanks for the response regarding my intestinal problem w/

> taking the oleander. I have been reading other posts on this forum

> as well as curezone and I just had a thought: (I really hate to even

> ask you this)but....

>

> I know there's nothing as effectove as the oleander but since I

> cannot tolerate even a tiny bit of it, what would be the next best

> thing as far as immune building/cancer killing/etc? Is there

> anything at all that comes to your mind that I could substitute for

> the oleander? I'm doing all the rest of your protocol but now I'm

> w/o the most impt part! It won't be the same, but if there is

> something else that even remotely comes close to the effectiveness

> of the oleander, I could add that to the rest of the protocol.

>

> A wild shot I'm sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks, Marcia

>

> oleander soup , " Tony " @ wrote:

> >

> > Marcia -

> >

> > I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you can make your own oleander

> > extract and use it instead. Personally, I feel that just about

> all of

> > the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comes to cancer is from the

> > oleander - just as I believe was true when the OPC was formulated

> with

> > 3 rain forest botanicals before the switch to S. Frutescens. Under

> > either formulation, the 80% oleander extract has been the big gun

> and

> > the rest bonuses.

> >

> > I suppose it is possible that you could be allergic to S.

> Frutescens,

> > though I can find no literature readily available about allergies

> to

> > it. I do note that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.

> > Ironically, another is constipation.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I

> take

> > > the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused

> it. Then

> > > I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried taking

> it

> > > every other day and went days w/o taking it, experimented with

> it, and

> > > then the day I took it, the diarrhea returned. (BAD!!) I

> endured it

> > > for weeks and lost weight bc everything went straight through me

> > > (didn't need or want to lose weight). As soon as I stopped

> taking it,

> > > the diarrhea stopped and now things are back to normal.

> > >

> > > I guess this is just a comment rather than a question bc I

> honestly

> > > don't know what else to do. Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer

> bush, bc

> > > I know I'm not allergic to oleander.

> > >

> > > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for me as far as

> the

> > > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this problem. Maybe some

> of us

> > > just can't take it.

> > >

> > > Thanks for all the previous suggestions. Marcia

> > >

> >

>

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:

 

Even though I have a bunch of oleander plants growing in my yard, it kind of freaks me out to make my own. I have read all the posts about those brewing their own and honestly i'm afraid that i might poison myself or something!! I know that sounds ridiculous for most of the people in the group, but...

 

I do think it's a good suggestion to try it alone before I give up on it --and the only way to do it is to make my own, so maybe i'll get up enough nerve and just do it. I guess I'll read again all the posts on it and see how I feel after that.

 

Thanks for the suggestion . I'll keep you posted. Marcia

 

 

oleander soup From: luellamay129Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:03:30 +0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

 

 

 

Marcia,Until Tony gets back, let me reply. First of all, it is wonderful thatyou are also following his protocol. You have a wonderful arsenalbehind you. As per his message, is it possible for you to make the soupand just try the oleander alone without the Sutherlandia Frutescens? Atleast to try this before you totally discount it. Who knows? Thatmight be the answer And then, if that doesn't work, we can cross thatbridge.Hugs,oleander soup , "sunlovernv" <Marcia_Groganwrote:>> Tony: Thanks for the response regarding my intestinal problem w/> taking the oleander. I have been reading other posts on this forum> as well as curezone and I just had a thought: (I really hate to even> ask you this)but....>> I know there's nothing as effectove as the oleander but since I> cannot tolerate even a tiny bit of it, what would be the next best> thing as far as immune building/cancer killing/etc? Is there> anything at all that comes to your mind that I could substitute for> the oleander? I'm doing all the rest of your protocol but now I'm> w/o the most impt part! It won't be the same, but if there is> something else that even remotely comes close to the effectiveness> of the oleander, I could add that to the rest of the protocol.>> A wild shot I'm sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks, Marcia>> oleander soup , "Tony" @ wrote:> >> > Marcia -> >> > I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you can make your own oleander> > extract and use it instead. Personally, I feel that just about> all of> > the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comes to cancer is from the> > oleander - just as I believe was true when the OPC was formulated> with> > 3 rain forest botanicals before the switch to S. Frutescens. Under> > either formulation, the 80% oleander extract has been the big gun> and> > the rest bonuses.> >> > I suppose it is possible that you could be allergic to S.> Frutescens,> > though I can find no literature readily available about allergies> to> > it. I do note that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.> > Ironically, another is constipation.> >> > Tony> >> >> > oleander soup , "sunlovernv" <Marcia_Grogan@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I> take> > > the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused> it. Then> > > I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried taking> it> > > every other day and went days w/o taking it, experimented with> it, and> > > then the day I took it, the diarrhea returned. (BAD!!) I> endured it> > > for weeks and lost weight bc everything went straight through me> > > (didn't need or want to lose weight). As soon as I stopped> taking it,> > > the diarrhea stopped and now things are back to normal.> > >> > > I guess this is just a comment rather than a question bc I> honestly> > > don't know what else to do. Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer> bush, bc> > > I know I'm not allergic to oleander.> > >> > > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for me as far as> the> > > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this problem. Maybe some> of us> > > just can't take it.> > >> > > Thanks for all the previous suggestions. Marcia> > >> >> Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. See Now

[Guest guest]

Marcia,

 

I understand your concern. Remember, oleander loses its toxicity when

it is made into a soup or extract. You will not kill yourself. And

being that they are growing in your yard I can assume that they are not

being sprayed by commercial pesticides? This is the first and most

important consideration. If they are being sprayed then, no it is out

of the question. But if they are not, and are growing naturally....

full steam ahead.

 

However..... easy does it. Take it slow. Follow the exact directions

and wear the appropriate gloves while getting the clippings. Ask any

questions you need to and we are here to guide you through it.

 

It really sounds harder than it is. Once you get it down it is a piece

of cake.

 

Hugs,

 

oleander soup , Marcia Grogan <Marcia_Grogan

wrote:

>

> :

>

> Even though I have a bunch of oleander plants growing in my yard, it

kind of freaks me out to make my own. I have read all the posts about

those brewing their own and honestly i'm afraid that i might poison

myself or something!! I know that sounds ridiculous for most of the

people in the group, but...

>

> I do think it's a good suggestion to try it alone before I give up on

it --and the only way to do it is to make my own, so maybe i'll get up

enough nerve and just do it. I guess I'll read again all the posts on it

and see how I feel after that.

>

> Thanks for the suggestion . I'll keep you posted. Marcia

>

>

>

> oleander soup: luellamay129: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:03:30

+0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

>

>

>

>

> Marcia,Until Tony gets back, let me reply. First of all, it is

wonderful thatyou are also following his protocol. You have a wonderful

arsenalbehind you. As per his message, is it possible for you to make

the soupand just try the oleander alone without the Sutherlandia

Frutescens? Atleast to try this before you totally discount it. Who

knows? Thatmight be the answer And then, if that doesn't work, we can

cross thatbridge.Hugs,oleander soup ,

" sunlovernv " Marcia_Grogan@wrote:>> Tony: Thanks for the response

regarding my intestinal problem w/> taking the oleander. I have been

reading other posts on this forum> as well as curezone and I just had a

thought: (I really hate to even> ask you this)but....>> I know there's

nothing as effectove as the oleander but since I> cannot tolerate even a

tiny bit of it, what would be the next best> thing as far as immune

building/cancer killing/etc? Is there> anything at all that comes to

your mind that I could substitute for> the oleander? I'm doing all the

rest of your protocol but now I'm> w/o the most impt part! It won't be

the same, but if there is> something else that even remotely comes close

to the effectiveness> of the oleander, I could add that to the rest of

the protocol.>> A wild shot I'm sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks, Marcia>> oleander soup , " Tony " @

wrote:> >> > Marcia -> >> > I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you can

make your own oleander> > extract and use it instead. Personally, I feel

that just about> all of> > the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comes

to cancer is from the> > oleander - just as I believe was true when the

OPC was formulated> with> > 3 rain forest botanicals before the switch

to S. Frutescens. Under> > either formulation, the 80% oleander extract

has been the big gun> and> > the rest bonuses.> >> > I suppose it is

possible that you could be allergic to S.> Frutescens,> > though I can

find no literature readily available about allergies> to> > it. I do

note that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.> > Ironically,

another is constipation.> >> > Tony> >> >> > --- In

oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan@>> > wrote:> >

>> > > I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I>

take> > > the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused>

it. Then> > > I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried

taking> it> > > every other day and went days w/o taking it,

experimented with> it, and> > > then the day I took it, the diarrhea

returned. (BAD!!) I> endured it> > > for weeks and lost weight bc

everything went straight through me> > > (didn't need or want to lose

weight). As soon as I stopped> taking it,> > > the diarrhea stopped and

now things are back to normal.> > >> > > I guess this is just a comment

rather than a question bc I> honestly> > > don't know what else to do.

Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer> bush, bc> > > I know I'm not allergic

to oleander.> > >> > > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for

me as far as> the> > > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this

problem. Maybe some> of us> > > just can't take it.> > >> > > Thanks for

all the previous suggestions. Marcia> > >> >_______________

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Marcia,

 

If it makes you feel any better, I'm the world's lousiest cook and I made the soup safely three times now. It's easy.

 

Mike

 

 

Marcia Grogan <Marcia_Groganoleander soup Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 1:25:11 AMRE: Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

 

: Even though I have a bunch of oleander plants growing in my yard, it kind of freaks me out to make my own. I have read all the posts about those brewing their own and honestly i'm afraid that i might poison myself or something!! I know that sounds ridiculous for most of the people in the group, but... I do think it's a good suggestion to try it alone before I give up on it --and the only way to do it is to make my own, so maybe i'll get up enough nerve and just do it. I guess I'll read again all the posts on it and see how I feel after that. Thanks for the suggestion . I'll keep you posted. Marcia

 

oleander soupluellamay129@ Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:03:30 +0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

 

 

Marcia,Until Tony gets back, let me reply. First of all, it is wonderful thatyou are also following his protocol. You have a wonderful arsenalbehind you. As per his message, is it possible for you to make the soupand just try the oleander alone without the Sutherlandia Frutescens? Atleast to try this before you totally discount it. Who knows? Thatmight be the answer And then, if that doesn't work, we can cross thatbridge.Hugs,oleander soup, "sunlovernv" <Marcia_Grogan@ ...>wrote:>> Tony: Thanks for the response regarding my intestinal problem w/> taking the oleander. I have been reading other posts on this forum> as well as curezone and I just had a thought: (I really hate to even> ask

you this)but....>> I know there's nothing as effectove as the oleander but since I> cannot tolerate even a tiny bit of it, what would be the next best> thing as far as immune building/cancer killing/etc? Is there> anything at all that comes to your mind that I could substitute for> the oleander? I'm doing all the rest of your protocol but now I'm> w/o the most impt part! It won't be the same, but if there is> something else that even remotely comes close to the effectiveness> of the oleander, I could add that to the rest of the protocol.>> A wild shot I'm sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks, Marcia>> oleander soup, "Tony" @ wrote:> >> > Marcia -> >> > I am sorry to

hear that - hopefully you can make your own oleander> > extract and use it instead. Personally, I feel that just about> all of> > the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comes to cancer is from the> > oleander - just as I believe was true when the OPC was formulated> with> > 3 rain forest botanicals before the switch to S. Frutescens. Under> > either formulation, the 80% oleander extract has been the big gun> and> > the rest bonuses.> >> > I suppose it is possible that you could be allergic to S.> Frutescens,> > though I can find no literature readily available about allergies> to> > it. I do note that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.> > Ironically, another is constipation.> >> > Tony> >> >> > oleander soup, "sunlovernv" <Marcia_Grogan@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I> take> > > the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused> it. Then> > > I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I tried taking> it> > > every other day and went days w/o taking it, experimented with> it, and> > > then the day I took it, the diarrhea returned. (BAD!!) I> endured it> > > for weeks and lost weight bc everything went straight through me> > > (didn't need or want to lose weight). As soon as I stopped> taking it,> > > the diarrhea stopped and now things are back to normal.> > >> > > I guess this is just

a comment rather than a question bc I> honestly> > > don't know what else to do. Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer> bush, bc> > > I know I'm not allergic to oleander.> > >> > > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it for me as far as> the> > > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have this problem. Maybe some> of us> > > just can't take it.> > >> > > Thanks for all the previous suggestions. Marcia> > >> >>

 

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:

 

I never really thought about it losing its toxicity when cooked. I guess that would have to be the case bc everyone would be dropping dead, wouldn't they?

 

No my plants have not been sprayed. They are big and healthy, so maybe I'll get up my nerve...I'll let you know.

 

Thanks, Marcia

 

 

oleander soup From: luellamay129Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:52:13 +0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

 

 

 

Marcia,I understand your concern. Remember, oleander loses its toxicity whenit is made into a soup or extract. You will not kill yourself. Andbeing that they are growing in your yard I can assume that they are notbeing sprayed by commercial pesticides? This is the first and mostimportant consideration. If they are being sprayed then, no it is outof the question. But if they are not, and are growing naturally....full steam ahead.However..... easy does it. Take it slow. Follow the exact directionsand wear the appropriate gloves while getting the clippings. Ask anyquestions you need to and we are here to guide you through it.It really sounds harder than it is. Once you get it down it is a pieceof cake.Hugs,oleander soup , Marcia Grogan <Marcia_Groganwrote:>> :>> Even though I have a bunch of oleander plants growing in my yard, itkind of freaks me out to make my own. I have read all the posts aboutthose brewing their own and honestly i'm afraid that i might poisonmyself or something!! I know that sounds ridiculous for most of thepeople in the group, but...>> I do think it's a good suggestion to try it alone before I give up onit --and the only way to do it is to make my own, so maybe i'll get upenough nerve and just do it. I guess I'll read again all the posts on itand see how I feel after that.>> Thanks for the suggestion . I'll keep you posted. Marcia>>>> oleander soup: luellamay129: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:03:30+0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC>>>>> Marcia,Until Tony gets back, let me reply. First of all, it iswonderful thatyou are also following his protocol. You have a wonderfularsenalbehind you. As per his message, is it possible for you to makethe soupand just try the oleander alone without the SutherlandiaFrutescens? Atleast to try this before you totally discount it. Whoknows? Thatmight be the answer And then, if that doesn't work, we cancross thatbridge.Hugs,oleander soup ,"sunlovernv" Marcia_Grogan@wrote:>> Tony: Thanks for the responseregarding my intestinal problem w/> taking the oleander. I have beenreading other posts on this forum> as well as curezone and I just had athought: (I really hate to even> ask you this)but....>> I know there'snothing as effectove as the oleander but since I> cannot tolerate even atiny bit of it, what would be the next best> thing as far as immunebuilding/cancer killing/etc? Is there> anything at all that comes toyour mind that I could substitute for> the oleander? I'm doing all therest of your protocol but now I'm> w/o the most impt part! It won't bethe same, but if there is> something else that even remotely comes closeto the effectiveness> of the oleander, I could add that to the rest ofthe protocol.>> A wild shot I'm sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway.Thanks, Marcia>> oleander soup , "Tony" @wrote:> >> > Marcia -> >> > I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you canmake your own oleander> > extract and use it instead. Personally, I feelthat just about> all of> > the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comesto cancer is from the> > oleander - just as I believe was true when theOPC was formulated> with> > 3 rain forest botanicals before the switchto S. Frutescens. Under> > either formulation, the 80% oleander extracthas been the big gun> and> > the rest bonuses.> >> > I suppose it ispossible that you could be allergic to S.> Frutescens,> > though I canfind no literature readily available about allergies> to> > it. I donote that one of the common side effects is diarrhea.> > Ironically,another is constipation.> >> > Tony> >> >> > --- Inoleander soup , "sunlovernv" <Marcia_Grogan@>> > wrote:> >>> > > I have written previously about my problem with diarrhea when I>take> > > the OPC. I started out w/ the liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused>it. Then> > > I tried the caps and even one a day caused it. I triedtaking> it> > > every other day and went days w/o taking it,experimented with> it, and> > > then the day I took it, the diarrheareturned. (BAD!!) I> endured it> > > for weeks and lost weight bceverything went straight through me> > > (didn't need or want to loseweight). As soon as I stopped> taking it,> > > the diarrhea stopped andnow things are back to normal.> > >> > > I guess this is just a commentrather than a question bc I> honestly> > > don't know what else to do.Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer> bush, bc> > > I know I'm not allergicto oleander.> > >> > > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is it forme as far as> the> > > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have thisproblem. Maybe some> of us> > > just can't take it.> > >> > > Thanks forall the previous suggestions. Marcia> > >> >>>>>>>> ________> Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone withWindows Live.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. Learn Now

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Marcia, there you go! You have a goldmine in your yard. We are here to

help you with any questions you may have.

 

And those of us who are taking the soup are very much alive and reaping

its benefits.

 

Hugs,

 

 

 

oleander soup , Marcia Grogan <Marcia_Grogan

wrote:

>

> :

>

> I never really thought about it losing its toxicity when cooked. I

guess that would have to be the case bc everyone would be dropping dead,

wouldn't they?

>

> No my plants have not been sprayed. They are big and healthy, so

maybe I'll get up my nerve...I'll let you know.

>

> Thanks, Marcia

>

>

>

> oleander soup: luellamay129: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:52:13

+0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from the OPC

>

>

>

>

> Marcia,I understand your concern. Remember, oleander loses its

toxicity whenit is made into a soup or extract. You will not kill

yourself. Andbeing that they are growing in your yard I can assume that

they are notbeing sprayed by commercial pesticides? This is the first

and mostimportant consideration. If they are being sprayed then, no it

is outof the question. But if they are not, and are growing

naturally....full steam ahead.However..... easy does it. Take it slow.

Follow the exact directionsand wear the appropriate gloves while getting

the clippings. Ask anyquestions you need to and we are here to guide you

through it.It really sounds harder than it is. Once you get it down it

is a pieceof cake.Hugs,oleander soup , Marcia

Grogan Marcia_Grogan@wrote:>> :>> Even though I have a bunch of

oleander plants growing in my yard, itkind of freaks me out to make my

own. I have read all the posts aboutthose brewing their own and honestly

i'm afraid that i might poisonmyself or something!! I know that sounds

ridiculous for most of thepeople in the group, but...>> I do think it's

a good suggestion to try it alone before I give up onit --and the only

way to do it is to make my own, so maybe i'll get upenough nerve and

just do it. I guess I'll read again all the posts on itand see how I

feel after that.>> Thanks for the suggestion . I'll keep you

posted. Marcia>>>> oleander soup@: luellamay129@: Sat, 6 Sep 2008

17:03:30+0000 Re: Last msg about diarrhea from

the OPC>>>>> Marcia,Until Tony gets back, let me reply. First of all, it

iswonderful thatyou are also following his protocol. You have a

wonderfularsenalbehind you. As per his message, is it possible for you

to makethe soupand just try the oleander alone without the

SutherlandiaFrutescens? Atleast to try this before you totally discount

it. Whoknows? Thatmight be the answer And then, if that doesn't work, we

cancross thatbridge.Hugs,--- In

oleander soup , " sunlovernv " Marcia_Grogan@wrote:>> Tony:

Thanks for the responseregarding my intestinal problem w/> taking the

oleander. I have beenreading other posts on this forum> as well as

curezone and I just had athought: (I really hate to even> ask you

this)but....>> I know there'snothing as effectove as the oleander but

since I> cannot tolerate even atiny bit of it, what would be the next

best> thing as far as immunebuilding/cancer killing/etc? Is there>

anything at all that comes toyour mind that I could substitute for> the

oleander? I'm doing all therest of your protocol but now I'm> w/o the

most impt part! It won't bethe same, but if there is> something else

that even remotely comes closeto the effectiveness> of the oleander, I

could add that to the rest ofthe protocol.>> A wild shot I'm sure, but I

thought I'd ask anyway.Thanks, Marcia>> --- In

oleander soup , " Tony " @wrote:> >> > Marcia -> >>

> I am sorry to hear that - hopefully you canmake your own oleander> >

extract and use it instead. Personally, I feelthat just about> all of> >

the success of Sutherlandia OPC when it comesto cancer is from the> >

oleander - just as I believe was true when theOPC was formulated> with>

> 3 rain forest botanicals before the switchto S. Frutescens. Under> >

either formulation, the 80% oleander extracthas been the big gun> and> >

the rest bonuses.> >> > I suppose it ispossible that you could be

allergic to S.> Frutescens,> > though I canfind no literature readily

available about allergies> to> > it. I donote that one of the common

side effects is diarrhea.> > Ironically,another is constipation.> >> >

Tony> >> >> > --- Inoleander soup , " sunlovernv "

<Marcia_Grogan@>> > wrote:> >>> > > I have written previously about my

problem with diarrhea when I>take> > > the OPC. I started out w/ the

liquid and even 1/2 tsp caused>it. Then> > > I tried the caps and even

one a day caused it. I triedtaking> it> > > every other day and went

days w/o taking it,experimented with> it, and> > > then the day I took

it, the diarrheareturned. (BAD!!) I> endured it> > > for weeks and lost

weight bceverything went straight through me> > > (didn't need or want

to loseweight). As soon as I stopped> taking it,> > > the diarrhea

stopped andnow things are back to normal.> > >> > > I guess this is just

a commentrather than a question bc I> honestly> > > don't know what else

to do.Maybe I'm allergic to the cancer> bush, bc> > > I know I'm not

allergicto oleander.> > >> > > I'm very disappointed and I guess this is

it forme as far as> the> > > oleander goes. My husband doesn't have

thisproblem. Maybe some> of us> > > just can't take it.> > >> > > Thanks

forall the previous suggestions. Marcia> > >> >>>>>>>>

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