Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Sun, Some breeders are guilty of breeding close relatives to continue a " purebred " line. The result can be health and other issues of various kinds. Not all breeders should be tarred with this brush, of course. But you must know the breeder and have confidence this isn't happening in their case. Phil ===================================================================== oleander soup , sun ray <revelation3_21 wrote: > > Pls forgive the interjection, but are you suggesting that getting a dog/cat from a breeder isn't the ideal way to go. I'm sincerely asking for info - not wanting to debate. If I shouldn't get a cat/dog from a breeder, where is the best place?? Thanks for your time and consideration. > > sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Rescue organizations & shelters are the best, save a life. It is a great deed especially for the animal, who are forever grateful. Best dogs I ever had were rescued. If you must have a certain breed there are specific breed rescue groups. Check online. Start with petfinder.com there are thousands of wonderful dogs that need homes. Tammatha - philzach oleander soup Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:59 AM Dog Breeders Sun,Some breeders are guilty of breeding close relatives to continue a"purebred" line. The result can be health and other issues of variouskinds. Not all breeders should be tarred with this brush, of course.But you must know the breeder and have confidence this isn'thappening in their case. Phil=====================================================================oleander soup , sun ray <revelation3_21 wrote:>> Pls forgive the interjection, but are you suggesting that getting adog/cat from a breeder isn't the ideal way to go. I'm sincerely askingfor info - not wanting to debate. If I shouldn't get a cat/dog from abreeder, where is the best place?? Thanks for your time and consideration.> > sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Chicken soup for a dog lovers soul, wellness, taste of the wild salmon, and many other good dog foods. Eagle was bought out and I am not sure that they haven't changed the formula because I have heard reports of dogs getting diarrhea since the buy out also I believe the same company bought wellness. I feed raw so can't really remember the names of many foods. Great Danes pups should never be fed puppy food and no food with a protein content of more then 23% or a fat content higher then 13%. Do you homework and check all ingredients before buying. No corn No wheat Definitely no soy I send my girl to the shows with Taste of the Wild. Hope this helps a little. Lynn  If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it. John 11:27 NIVHappy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God. At home in Big Sky Country, Montana, USA ---- Tammatha 8/30/2008 11:48:03 PM oleander soup Re: Dog Breeders Rescue organizations & shelters are the best, save a life. It is a great deed especially for the animal, who are forever grateful. Best dogs I ever had were rescued. If you must have a certain breed there are specific breed rescue groups. Check online. Start with petfinder.com there are thousands of wonderful dogs that need homes. Tammatha - philzach oleander soup Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:59 AM Dog Breeders Sun,Some breeders are guilty of breeding close relatives to continue a"purebred" line. The result can be health and other issues of variouskinds. Not all breeders should be tarred with this brush, of course.But you must know the breeder and have confidence this isn'thappening in their case. Phil=====================================================================oleander soup , sun ray <revelation3_21 wrote:>> Pls forgive the interjection, but are you suggesting that getting adog/cat from a breeder isn't the ideal way to go. I'm sincerely askingfor info - not wanting to debate. If I shouldn't get a cat/dog from abreeder, where is the best place?? Thanks for your time and consideration.> > sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I know that buying from a breeder is the only way you are going to know for sure about how your dog will turn out looks and most likely mentally. Breed rescue organizations seem to get problem dogs along with the ones that are ok. Which is the typical situation in adoptng from rescue as they tend to save dogs who have serious health problems or mental problems. So I'm not saying don't get a dog from rescue just be really sure of what are the issues of the surrender and the overall heath of the dog. Teri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 It is a myth that rescue organizations and shelters get only problems dogs, the problem with the dog more often than not was an uncommited owner that dumps the dog or doesn't want to take the time to train or work with the dog. People surrender dogs every day for no reasons other than that they can. Dogs are a huge commitment and take alot of time to do it right. If the dog has an issue, it is the owners responsiblity to work through it. Many of the Michael Vick dogs were supposedly unadoptable, many have gone into permanent loving, responsible homes. Best Friends in Utah and others have worked with them for years. Dogs are incredible beings much more resilent than people. Emotionally they process different than us. Cesar Millan the Dog Whisperer has rehabilitated an amazing amount of so called "mental problems. Buying from a breeder is not a sure thing, nothing is. Tammatha - Teri Kavakos oleander soup Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:18 AM Re: Dog Breeders I know that buying from a breeder is the only way you are going to know for sure about how your dog will turn out looks and most likely mentally. Breed rescue organizations seem to get problem dogs along with the ones that are ok. Which is the typical situation in adoptng from rescue as they tend to save dogs who have serious health problems or mental problems. So I'm not saying don't get a dog from rescue just be really sure of what are the issues of the surrender and the overall heath of the dog.Teri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Very well said Tammatha!! No one could have said it better I think...... And on that note I will bid all adieu and well wishes to all. Hugs, Bonnie & Angelboy CodyIt's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 It is a myth that rescue organizations and shelters get only problems dogs, the problem with the dog more often than not was an uncommitted owner that dumps the dog or doesn't want to take the time to train or work with the dog. People surrender dogs every day for no reasons other than that they Amen to this, having worked transport in MT and with Great Dane Rescue throughout the country. We see tons of dogs that are turned in because the owners can't be bothered to teach them anything. Excuses like, I didn't know that the puppy would get so big! Come on lady you bought a GREAT DANE!!!!! Even the most abused and starved Danes have been recouped and retrained by dedicated rescue people and go to homes where they are loved and return that love 10 fold. ******************************************************* http://starlightgreatdanes.com/rescue.html We find beauty in the most incomprehensible places and the otherwise homely faces. It is our gift to see beyond the dirt, terror, sadness and defeat And find the true soul that lies within. We are Rescue. If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it. John 11:27 NIVHappy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God. At home in Big Sky Country, Montana, USA ---- Tammatha 08/31/08 14:28:37 oleander soup Re: Dog Breeders It is a myth that rescue organizations and shelters get only problems dogs, the problem with the dog more often than not was an uncommited owner that dumps the dog or doesn't want to take the time to train or work with the dog. People surrender dogs every day for no reasons other than that they can. Dogs are a huge commitment and take alot of time to do it right. If the dog has an issue, it is the owners responsiblity to work through it. Many of the Michael Vick dogs were supposedly unadoptable, many have gone into permanent loving, responsible homes. Best Friends in Utah and others have worked with them for years. Dogs are incredible beings much more resilent than people. Emotionally they process different than us. Cesar Millan the Dog Whisperer has rehabilitated an amazing amount of so called "mental problems. Buying from a breeder is not a sure thing, nothing is. Tammatha - Teri Kavakos oleander soup Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:18 AM Re: Dog Breeders I know that buying from a breeder is the only way you are going to know for sure about how your dog will turn out looks and most likely mentally. Breed rescue organizations seem to get problem dogs along with the ones that are ok. Which is the typical situation in adoptng from rescue as they tend to save dogs who have serious health problems or mental problems. So I'm not saying don't get a dog from rescue just be really sure of what are the issues of the surrender and the overall heath of the dog.Teri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Also when buying from a breeder make sure they are not what we call BYB Back yard breeders. Find a responsible breeder that has had the parents tested for all of the problems a dog might pass genetically to it pups. Wobbler, Addison, DMC, liver problems, thyroid problems. Go to the home page to the parent club of the breed you are interested in and read, read, read, ex Great Dane Club of America. Go to a show and see what your breed should look like. JMHO Lynn Davis http://www.starlightgreatdanes.com  If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it. John 11:27 NIVHappy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God. At home in Big Sky Country, Montana, USA ---- Tammatha 8/31/2008 2:28:37 PM oleander soup Re: Dog Breeders It is a myth that rescue organizations and shelters get only problems dogs, the problem with the dog more often than not was an uncommited owner that dumps the dog or doesn't want to take the time to train or work with the dog. People surrender dogs every day for no reasons other than that they can. Dogs are a huge commitment and take alot of time to do it right. If the dog has an issue, it is the owners responsiblity to work through it. Many of the Michael Vick dogs were supposedly unadoptable, many have gone into permanent loving, responsible homes. Best Friends in Utah and others have worked with them for years. Dogs are incredible beings much more resilent than people. Emotionally they process different than us. Cesar Millan the Dog Whisperer has rehabilitated an amazing amount of so called "mental problems. Buying from a breeder is not a sure thing, nothing is. Tammatha - Teri Kavakos oleander soup Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:18 AM Re: Dog Breeders I know that buying from a breeder is the only way you are going to know for sure about how your dog will turn out looks and most likely mentally. Breed rescue organizations seem to get problem dogs along with the ones that are ok. Which is the typical situation in adoptng from rescue as they tend to save dogs who have serious health problems or mental problems. So I'm not saying don't get a dog from rescue just be really sure of what are the issues of the surrender and the overall heath of the dog.Teri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Thanks Bonnie & Angelboy Cody, it comes from the heart and experience because I have been doing dog rescue for over ten years. When you are in the trenches you learn the truth. Have fun on your excursion my dear! Tammatha - evian793 oleander soup Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:40 PM Re: Dog Breeders Very well said Tammatha!! No one could have said it better I think...... And on that note I will bid all adieu and well wishes to all. Hugs, Bonnie & Angelboy Cody It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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