Willing to try almost anything

[Guest guest]

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately.

I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in?

Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it.

 

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.htmlShannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners)--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 wrote:

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 Willing to try almost anythingoleander soup Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

 

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately.I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in?Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Rhoda,

Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM:

http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures.

Best of luck,

Steve

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Shannon MadonnaThursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Willing to try almost anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it.

 

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.htmlShannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners)--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 > wrote:

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541 > Willing to try almost anythingoleander soup Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

 

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately.I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in?Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Steve

Have you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.

Duke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.nortonFW: Willing to try almost anythingoleander soup Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM

 

 

 

Rhoda,

Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM:

http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html

It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures.

Best of luck,

Steve

 

 

oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon MadonnaThursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PMoleander soupRe: Willing to try almost anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it.

 

http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. htmlShannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners)--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote:

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anythingoleander soupThursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

 

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately.I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in?Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

2 things come to mind. I just had a really bad time from using citric acid. Like the article points out; some citric acid may not be fresh. My batch was actually very toxic to me. It was organic Frontier brand. I will be sticking to lemon juice; the kind you see coming straight out of the lemon. Second thing; you want to avoid letting DMSO come into contact with any kind of rubber, and a few other items. Mix it in glass. --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.nortonFW: Willing to try almost anythingoleander soup Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 4:20 PM

 

 

 

Rhoda,

Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM:

http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html

It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures.

Best of luck,

Steve

 

 

oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon MadonnaThursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PMoleander soupRe: Willing to try almost anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it.

 

http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. htmlShannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners)--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote:

Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anythingoleander soupThursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

 

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately.I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in?Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

I am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve-oleander soup <oleander soup >oleander soup <oleander soup >Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingSteveHave you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.Duke<http://www.dukestone.worldventures.biz/> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html> It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve________________________________ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.html> Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

I realized that maybe I should mention why my interest in cancer cures. My sister in law has lung nodules. I am primarly looking for something for her but I won't pass on something to her that I have not tried myself. Plus I expect to use OS for the long run as a preventative. It isn't my intent to pose as someone who is knowledgeable in this area. - Steve-Norton, Steve'oleander soup ' <oleander soup >Thu Aug 28 23:14:17 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingI am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve-oleander soup <oleander soup >oleander soup <oleander soup >Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingSteveHave you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.Duke<http://www.dukestone.worldventures.biz/> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html> It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve________________________________ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.html> Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

"From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS." - Steve Steve, I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I am trying this method, and wonder - does the mms actually travel with the dmso? Because if it does, it solves a whole lot of problems. I am definately interested in checking this out. It mean you could free up the time and interruption of taking mms orally, and hit cancer and/or viruses (like mine) with oleander and others through digestion. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote:

Norton, Steve <stephen.nortonRe: FW: Willing to try almost anythingoleander soup Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:41 AM

 

 

 

I realized that maybe I should mention why my interest in cancer cures. My sister in law has lung nodules. I am primarly looking for something for her but I won't pass on something to her that I have not tried myself. Plus I expect to use OS for the long run as a preventative. It isn't my intent to pose as someone who is knowledgeable in this area. - Steve-Norton, Steve'oleander soup' <oleander soup>Thu Aug 28 23:14:17 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingI am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it

wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve-oleander soup <oleander soup>oleander soup <oleander soup>Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingSteveHave you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.Duke<http://www.dukeston e.worldventures. biz/> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com>

wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the

Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html> It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve____________ _________ _________ __ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon

Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/

Alkaline. html> Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one

late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Dear Rhoda,

 

You might want to read up on cimetidine (Tagament) as a cancer protocol. Also Chinese skullcap. They both have strong indications in healing cancer. I stumbled upon them just recently.

 

Keeping you in my prayers,

 

Melly

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

MMS is small enough molecules that DMSO will carry it through the skin and into the blood. This would make taking large doses of MMS easy, without upsetting the stomach or bowels. Thing is, I wonder how they know it is a "cancer cure" seeing as how they state it will not 1) shrink tumors 2) stop pain for 2 to 3 weeks. I'm guessing they are using the marker test, but they say also to not take that until 2 weeks have passed after the protocol. It would be interesting to see the statistics on this.

 

I would not recommend doing this long term without taking extra C. I think that MMS is strong enough that even taken transdermally it may remove C from the body. Doing it for just the 3 days would be ok, because you could then go back to C when the time was up, but if someone is contemplating doing this say, once a day, on an on-going basis, I would suggest they STILL have to support the organs and add plenty of C. Perhaps take the C, oleander and any other supplements during the day and wait at least 4 hours before doing the DMSO-MMS transdermal at night. That way you'd get the much higher dose of MMS into the system for 12 night hours, yet still be able to support the body with anti-oxidents during the day.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I am trying this method, and wonder - does the mms actually travel with the dmso? Because if it does, it solves a whole lot of problems. I am definately interested in checking this out. It mean you could free up the time and interruption of taking mms orally, and hit cancer and/or viruses (like mine) with oleander and others through digestion. I am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve-oleander soup <oleander soup>oleander soup <oleander soup>Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingSteveHave you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.Duke<http://www.dukeston e.worldventures. biz/> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html> It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve____________ _________ _________ __ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html> Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Yes the DMSO binds with the MMS and transports the MMS through the skin. Additionally, DMSO can transport the MMS through the cell wall of a cancerous cell. I have used this method for up to 20 drops of activated MMS with no problems. I don't know what the limit might be. I have used my forearms fro the absorbtion and it takes about 20 minutes to absorb. - Steve-oleander soup <oleander soup >oleander soup <oleander soup >Fri Aug 29 12:14:11 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anything " From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. " - Steve Steve, I'm not sure what you mean by that. I am trying this method, and wonder - does the mms actually travel with the dmso? Because if it does, it solves a whole lot of problems. I am definately interested in checking this out. It mean you could free up the time and interruption of taking mms orally, and hit cancer and/or viruses (like mine) with oleander and others through digestion.--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton Re: FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:41 AM I realized that maybe I should mention why my interest in cancer cures. My sister in law has lung nodules. I am primarly looking for something for her but I won't pass on something to her that I have not tried myself. Plus I expect to use OS for the long run as a preventative. It isn't my intent to pose as someone who is knowledgeable in this area. - Steve - Norton, Steve 'oleander soup' <oleander soup> Thu Aug 28 23:14:17 2008 Re: FW: Willing to try almost anything I am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve - oleander soup <oleander soup> oleander soup <oleander soup> Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008 Re: FW: Willing to try almost anything Steve Have you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes. Duke <http://www.dukeston e.worldventures. biz/ > > --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new- <http://www.new-/> cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html > > It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve ____________ _________ _________ __ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu <http://www.cancertu/> tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html > > Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Renee

You need to read the instruction They cover this short turm usage quite well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Gaiacita <gaiacita wrote:

Gaiacita <gaiacitaRe: FW: Willing to try almost anythingoleander soup Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 9:39 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MMS is small enough molecules that DMSO will carry it through the skin and into the blood. This would make taking large doses of MMS easy, without upsetting the stomach or bowels. Thing is, I wonder how they know it is a "cancer cure" seeing as how they state it will not 1) shrink tumors 2) stop pain for 2 to 3 weeks. I'm guessing they are using the marker test, but they say also to not take that until 2 weeks have passed after the protocol. It would be interesting to see the statistics on this.

 

I would not recommend doing this long term without taking extra C. I think that MMS is strong enough that even taken transdermally it may remove C from the body. Doing it for just the 3 days would be ok, because you could then go back to C when the time was up, but if someone is contemplating doing this say, once a day, on an on-going basis, I would suggest they STILL have to support the organs and add plenty of C. Perhaps take the C, oleander and any other supplements during the day and wait at least 4 hours before doing the DMSO-MMS transdermal at night. That way you'd get the much higher dose of MMS into the system for 12 night hours, yet still be able to support the body with anti-oxidents during the day.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I am trying this method, and wonder - does the mms actually travel with the dmso? Because if it does, it solves a whole lot of problems. I am definately interested in checking this out. It mean you could free up the time and interruption of taking mms orally, and hit cancer and/or viruses (like mine) with oleander and others through digestion. I am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve----- Original Message

-----oleander soup <oleander soup>oleander soup <oleander soup>Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingSteveHave you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.Duke<http://www.dukeston e.worldventures. biz/> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> FW:

Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new-

cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html> It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve____________ _________ _________ __ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup

Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html> Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling

Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM

To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how

effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

 

[Guest guest]

Renee,

 

We need to keep in mind that tumors/tumor size are immaterial. Only the cancer cells within a tumor are significant. The non-cancerous cells are in the vast majority and are not a problem. Reducing tumor size (debulking) as a false god. The real goal is to kill the cancer cells or (preferably) kill the microbes within the cancer cells thus enabling them to become normal cells again.

 

Phil

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Gaiacita

oleander soup

Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:39 AM

Re: FW: Willing to try almost anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

MMS is small enough molecules that DMSO will carry it through the skin and into the blood. This would make taking large doses of MMS easy, without upsetting the stomach or bowels. Thing is, I wonder how they know it is a "cancer cure" seeing as how they state it will not 1) shrink tumors 2) stop pain for 2 to 3 weeks. I'm guessing they are using the marker test, but they say also to not take that until 2 weeks have passed after the protocol. It would be interesting to see the statistics on this.

 

I would not recommend doing this long term without taking extra C. I think that MMS is strong enough that even taken transdermally it may remove C from the body. Doing it for just the 3 days would be ok, because you could then go back to C when the time was up, but if someone is contemplating doing this say, once a day, on an on-going basis, I would suggest they STILL have to support the organs and add plenty of C. Perhaps take the C, oleander and any other supplements during the day and wait at least 4 hours before doing the DMSO-MMS transdermal at night. That way you'd get the much higher dose of MMS into the system for 12 night hours, yet still be able to support the body with anti-oxidents during the day.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I am trying this method, and wonder - does the mms actually travel with the dmso? Because if it does, it solves a whole lot of problems. I am definately interested in checking this out. It mean you could free up the time and interruption of taking mms orally, and hit cancer and/or viruses (like mine) with oleander and others through digestion. I am using it but not for cancer or at the levells the OCC protocol calls for. I am using 20 drops of MMS twice a day. The OCC calls for 130 drops a day to overwealm the cancer. From my experience at using MMS orally I would question if you could reach that much MMS. Since it is a one shot effort it seemed that if it does not work it wouldn't cause you to delay other treatment and might give breathing room to use OS. Your experience is certainly more relevant than mine. - Steve-oleander soup <oleander soup>oleander soup <oleander soup>Thu Aug 28 17:49:23 2008Re: FW: Willing to try almost anythingSteveHave you sued this or know who has. I did MMS for 6 months last year and my blood work on a dark field never changed --- Fumgus and viruses, these are very easy to track with a dark field microscope. It wasn't till I started using Dyflucan that I had any changes.Duke<http://www.dukeston e.worldventures. biz/> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> wrote: Norton, Steve <stephen.norton@ ngc.com> FW: Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 3:20 PM Rhoda, Since you are going to use MMS (Chlorine Dioxide), you can use it topically with DMSO. One of the problems with MMS is how tough it is on the stomach and how long it takes to build up to effective levels. Topical application with DMSO allows you to use effective levels of MMS immediately without nausia. I am using it this way myself and I love it vs. oral MMS. Here is a link to the Overnight Cure for Cancer (OCC) using MMS, DMSO and MSM: http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html <http://www.new- cancer-treatment s.org/Cancer/ OCC.html> It is a very fast potential cure allowing you to use is serially with other cures. Best of luck, Steve____________ _________ _________ __ oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Shannon Madonna Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:34 PM oleander soup Re: Willing to try almost anything Rhoda - here is a link to an article explaining DMSO/cesium chloride therapy. It has links to additional information about this therapy and where to purchase it. http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html <http://www.cancertu tor.com/Cancer/ Alkaline. html> Shannon, Gus & Pilgrim (the Battling Berners) --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> wrote: Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541@ gmail.com> Willing to try almost anything oleander soup Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:44 PM To all of you who replied to my pleas for help, THANKS. I'm following up, or have already done so to each suggestion. Tony, to answer you, I've done everything in your protocol EXCEPT adding Immune support and also colloidal gold. Are there any studies confirming anticancer activity of combined colloidal silve/gold? (cs/cg). Ordering Immune support immediately. I did find one late-stage chemo that is known to be twice as effective as all the others. I wonder how effective it might be with Insulin Potential Therapy. People have suggested DMSO with either MSM or cesium, and also suggested PolyMVA. Do they slow cancer so Oleander can have time to kick in? Starting MMS this week, thanks. Rhoda

 

[Guest guest]

True. But there are tumors, and there are tumors. Some press on organs, some are large enough to make movement uncomfortable. Reducing the size--like MMS does when taken orally--means a much greater comfort level for some people and animals. Because MMS does reduce tumors when taken orally, I find it odd that they say it doesn't reduce it when taken transdermally.

 

Samala,

Renee--who had tumors vanish in 2 cats on oral MMS

 

 

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We need to keep in mind that tumors/tumor size are immaterial.

[Guest guest]

Good point, Samala. Some tumors need to be reduced in size to accommodate issues other than cancer per se.

 

Phil

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Gaiacita

oleander soup

Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:37 AM

Re: FW: Willing to try almost anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

True. But there are tumors, and there are tumors. Some press on organs, some are large enough to make movement uncomfortable. Reducing the size--like MMS does when taken orally--means a much greater comfort level for some people and animals. Because MMS does reduce tumors when taken orally, I find it odd that they say it doesn't reduce it when taken transdermally.

 

Samala,

Renee--who had tumors vanish in 2 cats on oral MMS

 

 

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We need to keep in mind that tumors/tumor size are immaterial.