Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Mike I take about 40 different sups and 8 protocals a day. In 10 years I have spent over $80,000 trying to get some results. At present Besides the LDN I take oleander (2 Months), Aprocot kernals 25 to 50 per day .Tumeric 2 grams a day. Corcitilne 1200 mg a day. I have a Rife machine and use it daily for over two years. I get 40 minutes of Dallas sun at 11 am most days. Cureders topiclly on the tumor, Coconut oil 10 tablespoons a day. Budwig diet for 7 years. Silver for over five years. Essiac tea for over 7 years I have been at this for ten years and ever year it gets a little worse. When I tried Protoce 2 years ago( where your not suppose to take anything els the tumor grow by 400%. in 5 months. Hope your day is going well. Duke --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soup Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:42 PM I suspect that half the people that use it don't detect much improvement. Which is why I would never recommend it as a stand alone therapy.MikeMike Duke Stone <dukesdeals >oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008 2:19:20 PMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? Mike: I think that the LDN is good and It gave me a better sleeping patern when I first started it seven months ago. I still take it every night (4.5 mgs) but have not seen any decrease or slowing of my tumors growth.Duke --- On Mon, 8/25/08, john ashby <jashby_joshen@ > wrote: john ashby <jashby_joshen@ >Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008, 1:20 PM Thanks, I appreciate the info John Ashby, --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008, 2:18 PM LDN is "low dose naltrexone". Naltrexone is an opiate blocking drug used to treat addiction. For that purpose it is given in amounts around 50 mgs. For cancer and autoimmune disorders it can be given in doses of 4.5 mgs or less. This done once a night creates a temporary opiate blockade for a few hours. This is followed by a rebound increase in endorphins and endorphin receptor sites on cells, including cancer cells. The increase in endorphins has a boosting effect on the immune system. One of the endorphins (metenkephalin) can attach to cancer cells and lock many of them in an early stage of the cell cycle. This keeps some of them from going into mitosis, which is when cells divide. The cancer inhibiting effect of LDN is experienced, to some degree by about 60% of those taking the drug. A smaller percentage, perhaps 30%, experience gradual die-off of cancer cells, some to remission.Mike john ashby <jashby_joshen@ >oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008 11:50:04 AMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options THanks John Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote: Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupSaturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing. - Rhoda Mead oleander soup Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM wonderful suggestions A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 It sounds like you managed to survive all these years and that something is working. Would you please give a quick summary of your cancer type and some pitfalls you experienced through out the years? I am new to this, was diagnosed with colon cancer stageIII four months ago. Turned down chemo, went on Bob Beck protocol for 3 weeks and have been on Oleander and Laetril for 1 month now. But the the diehria and nausea is getting too much. I also take a lot of immune builder stuff, like powerimmune 4, and different mushroom extracts. Your information is very valuable.. I appreciate any opinion Thanks oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote > Mike > I take about 40 different sups and 8 protocals a day. In 10 years I have spent over $80,000 trying to get some results. At present Besides the LDN I take oleander (2 Months), Aprocot kernals 25 to 50 per day ..Tumeric 2 grams a day. Corcitilne 1200 mg a day. I have a Rife machine and use it daily for over two years. I get 40 minutes of Dallas sun at 11 am most days. Cureders topiclly on the tumor, Coconut oil 10 tablespoons a day. Budwig diet for 7 years. Silver for over five years. Essiac tea for over 7 years > > I have been at this for ten years and ever year it gets a little worse. When I tried Protoce 2 years ago( where your not suppose to take anything els the tumor grow by 400%. in 5 months. > > Hope your day is going well. > Duke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote: > > Mike Golden <goldenmike86 > Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? > oleander soup > Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:42 PM > > I suspect that half the people that use it don't detect much improvement. Which is why I would never recommend it as a stand alone therapy. > > Mike > > Mike > > > > > Duke Stone <dukesdeals > > oleander soup > Monday, August 25, 2008 2:19:20 PM > Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? > > Mike: > I think that the LDN is good and It gave me a better sleeping patern when I first started it seven months ago. I still take it every night (4.5 mgs) but have not seen any decrease or slowing of my tumors growth. > Duke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, john ashby <jashby_joshen@ > wrote: > > john ashby <jashby_joshen@ > > Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? > oleander soup > Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:20 PM > > Thanks, I appreciate the info > > > > > John Ashby, > > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote: > > Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > > Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? > oleander soup > Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:18 PM LDN is " low dose naltrexone " . Naltrexone is an opiate blocking drug used to treat addiction. For that purpose it is given in amounts around 50 mgs. For cancer and autoimmune disorders it can be given in doses of 4.5 mgs or less. This done once a night creates a temporary opiate blockade for a few hours. This is followed by a rebound increase in endorphins and endorphin receptor sites on cells, including cancer cells. The increase in endorphins has a boosting effect on the immune system. One of the endorphins (metenkephalin) can attach to cancer cells and lock many of them in an early stage of the cell cycle. This keeps some of them from going into mitosis, which is when cells divide. > The cancer inhibiting effect of LDN is experienced, to some degree by about 60% of those taking the drug. A smaller percentage, perhaps 30%, experience gradual die-off of cancer cells, some to remission. > > Mike > > > > > john ashby <jashby_joshen@ > > oleander soup > Monday, August 25, 2008 11:50:04 AM > Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? > Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options > THanks > > > > John Ashby, > > > --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote: > > Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> > Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN? > oleander soup > Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM > > > We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he > is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very > aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks > on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has > shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is > gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was > working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first > three weeks. LDN is amazing. > > > > - > Rhoda Mead > oleander soup > Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM > wonderful suggestions > > > > > A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! > > Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this > list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. > I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. 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